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Your vote is statistically meaningless and will not sway the (s)election. Your vote is strategically meaningless and decides nothing about the future of the country. Your vote is useless, as the (s)election is rigged anyway. But as Larken Rose of LarkenRose.com reminds us, what really matters is that voting is immoral, legitimizing a system of authoritarian control and empowering the oligarchs who created the system and control its results.
Happy selection day!
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No matter which way this election goes, I’m going to refer to the coming government as “Ridiculocracy”. Girlfriend and I are burning our ballots tomorrow afternoon.
On the other side of this debate, let’s say that candidate A has a far more peaceful foreign policy (that you truly believed would cause SIGNIFICANTLY fewer deaths) than candidate B. Voting for candidate A, however, would still be a “validation of the system” (or however Larken Rose phrased it). Question for the forum: Would it still be wrong to vote for that candidate?
Another question along the same lines – let’s say Ron Paul were running in this race. Would it still be wrong to vote for him (again because it would validate the system)?
Fair enough that it’s very difficult to trust what a candidate says. For the purpose of my question though, let’s just make it a given. Under that condition, would Larken Rose’s argument still hold up? (again – an open question for the forum)
Been saying the same thing–forever. Just walk away. Americans swallowed the blue pill and still have not awakened. Voting represents a so-called democratic election of leadership when nothing could be further from the truth. It merely represents a side-step within the old cast system where “selection” not “election” continues. I agree. In participating we grant permission, as has been done for thousands of years, to the same elitists who have appointed themselves and their blood lines as rulers of everything and everyone.
Shunning has been used throughout human history to kill unwanted behavior. Personal responsibility requires shunning a system that perpetuates deceit over truth and power over cooperation and contribution. Again I say, just walk away.
The only thing I would disagree with in this video is the notion that we shouldn’t participate. I think that is the wrong way to approach this.
Democracy = Punch in the face or a kick in the crotch. I understand the false choice given here, however isn’t this the reason why countries have a constitution? So that the face puncher or the crotch kicker doesn’t go all Stalin or Hitler and sh*t on the populace.
Like it or not, but mankind is a social animal. We need certain rules to coexist together peacefully. Democracy isn’t a spectator sport, we need to be constantly involved in the process, not just on election day every 4 years, but each and every day of our lives.
For example, say Hillary wins the election, well then don’t let her get away with unconstitutional sh*t like more wars!!! Take to the streets if need be and protest.
Another example, the American people were so war weary from Bush’s wars that Obama didn’t dare put troops on the ground in Syria unless the hawkish Republican run congress were willing to put it to a vote first, which they didn’t because they knew full well that during the next election cycle that they would lose their seats.
The American Constitution was created to protect man’s unalienable rights. Lets make sure elected officials don’t ripe up this so called gawd damn piece of paper.
Bill of Rights
1- To act in self-defense (personal, family, innocents, nation).
2- To own and carry weapons for self-defense and for ensuring that the nation remains free.
3- To own and control private property (land, money, personal items, intellectual property, etc.)
4- To earn a living and keep the fruit of one’s labor.
5- To freely migrate within the country or to leave the country.
6- To worship — or not worship — God in the manner one chooses.
7- To associate with — or disassociate from — any person or group.
8- To express any idea through print, voice, banner, or other media.
9- To be secure in one’s home, papers, and person against unwarranted searches and seizures (privacy).
10- To be advised of the charges, in the event of arrest.
11- To have a judge determine if the accused should be held for trial or for punishment.
12- To be tried by a jury of one’s peers and face one’s accuser, in the event of being charged with a crime.
13- To be tried by a jury of one’s peers, in the event of a suit in which the disputed amount is substantive.
14- To suffer no cruel or unusual punishment.
15- To establish, monitor, control, and petition our servant government to help secure the above rights.
16- To abolish said government, when it becomes destructive of these rights.
Reread 15 and 16 if need be.
By the way I’m Canadian, and even I know that if it wasn’t for the founding of America in 1776 chances are our Bill of rights which was written 100 years later wouldn’t exist as is, if it wasn’t for the US constitution.
Not participating was kinda the whole point of the video
You’re quick.
Fantastic interview!!!
This line of thought is what will change the world.
– Thanks for the links.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJUZlwAFVQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk
I would like Corbett to revisit Larkin Rose in the not too distant future. Ideas such as what was discussed will shape new moral ground across society.
Voting is nothing more than:
– Smoke and mirrors to distract us from the truth
– Year long propaganda opportunity
– 100% b.s.
They don’t care who you hate so long as you hate one of the candidates.
The Blue tribe lines up to bash their heads repeatedly into the Blue side of the brick wall while the Red tribe are on the other side bashing their heads into Red bricks. It is beyond absurd. It is less than pointless.
Abandon your tribal hatred. Stop playing along. Don’t vote.
Seriously. Litterally. Stop.
That must be nice for you to have an imaginary friend to support your belief system, even when all evidence points to the contrary.
If the election were invalid unless a certain number of people voted, I could see not voting. But, even if 1% of the population voted, they’d still say “the people have spoken” or whatever.
I disagree with what the government has become. But the people have to get sick enough of it to stand up and change it. Until then, “they” are going to rule…
Something I’ve been considering since the late 1990’s. It solidified after OBushma took power (OBushma because he just continued what Bush was doing). A group, that transcends political parties, has the same end goals and despite their outward party, they will continue reaching for their ultimate goals step by slow step. I feel that group is the globalists and they seek a one world government.
Yes, it’s conspiratorial. But I haven’t seen anything that disproves that notion.
http://www.anarchism.net/anarchism_abstainfrombeans.htm
Abstain From Beans
ANARCHISTS OPPOSE THE STATE. But does that mean you have to avoid the state everywhere, anytime and in any form? Can, for instance, anarchists vote? In this classic essay Robert LeFevre argues why anarchists should “abstain from beans.”
Good post! Thanks for the excerpt.
…we do so precisely because we intend to bind others to our will. Political voting is the legal method we have adopted and extolled for obtaining monopolies of power.
…This means that he should refuse to participate in the process by means of which some men obtain power over others. If you value your right to life, liberty, and property, then clearly there is every reason to refrain from participating in a process that is calculated to remove the life, liberty, or property from any other person.
Hey ronnie-
I hear you. Personally, I have never voted. At first because I was young and only cared about girls and how cool my car stereo was, that kind of thing. Then later it was because I started catching on.
And yea, I don’t bother anymore trying to wake people up. It’s a fucking waste of my time. The blank look on their face gets old. Fortunately for my sanity I do know a couple people who are tuned in and curious. For them I just ordered some Corbett DVDs for Christmas.
And to your last point. Education should be that, by definition. Unfortunately when the state dictates what that is, game over.