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Joining us today is Ted Walter of the International Center for 9/11 Justice (ic911.org). We discuss the center, its work, its recent symposium on “Aviation Impossibilities: Deconstructing the Official Story of the 9/11 Hijackings and Air Defense Failures” and Walter’s own research detailing the many anomalies, contradictions and impossibilities found in the reports of the phone calls supposedly made on the planes that day. We also talk about the state of the 9/11 Truth movement and what achieving 9/11 justice would actually mean.
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International Center for 9/11 Justice
Fog, Fiction and the Flight 11 Phone Calls – PART 1 and PART 2
The link to the “Fog, Fiction and the Flight 11 Phone Calls (pdf)” isn’t working.
It worked for me just now.
Guess what. You can’t right click to open. You have to just click on the link. Thanks.
For completeness: We know with 100% certainty the remains were not from civil planes.
Both for the WTC towers and the Pentagon
Recovered engines were not from civil planes
https://corbettreport.com/interview-1897-james-corbett-answers-9-11-questions/#comment-168859
Nothwoods 2.0
It is like finding remains of a Porsche when you expect to find a Fiat.
At the Pentagon and the crash site in Pennsylvania there were no actual engine parts. By that I mean the actual engine as opposed to the blades etc. It’s near impossible to totally destroy the actual engine because of how they are made and the type of metal used. In both of those cases there was no plane that crashed. One of the anomaly’s of the Pennsylvania crash is there was absolutely no blood or any body parts recovered. Again likely no plane crashed there and yes there was debris but nothing even close to what it would have been had an actual commercial airplane full of passengers had crashed there.
I just started watching the symposium a couple days ago and now you bring Ted Walter on, very nice!!!
It’s crazy that so many years later there’s still so much to discover.
Not being very familiar with this topic, personally i wonder, what exactly happened to the people making these phonecalls.
So apparently, according to Ted, there were phonerecords, released later by GTE, that allowed to locate exactly which row and seat a calling passenger was sitting.
Is that evidence enough that those passengers were indeed in that plane?
According to the hijacking drill theory to explain the phonecalls, how would the death of the passengers be explained? They were rounded up and shot?
Maybe those questions were answered, but as I said, I don’t consider myself well informed on the subject.
Nice episode, thanks James and Ted!
Correction, i re-listened, so I understand the hijacking drill would’ve been performed on flight, which would explain the death of the passengers on flight 93, but not the others, at least not according to the “no commercial planes” theory
And no one on a cell phone sent a pic, cmon….
In 2001?? Doubtfully
Thank you, James, for this interview. It was a great addition to the 4-hour symposium. The wrap-up was excellent – the importance of continuing these investigations, what justice would look like, and setting the historical record straight.
James, do not despair.
A 9/11 documentary in the early days of hulu, 2014, started my journey also.
A 2015 9/11 anniversary special with you as a guest is what started me reading and watching the Corbett Report.
I consider 9/11 as important, if not more important and pertinent, today, especially given what has happened over the past 4 years and where we are possibly headed.
I will watch the symposium.
I have recently started watching, and reading, Judy Woods again. I quite like her presentations because she focuses on wtc bldngs 3,4,5,6 which I have always wondered about. To see the big picture of that day is just beyond belief.
I absolutely believe that there could have been directed energy weaponry used to eradicate the buildings.
In any case, I don’t believe that anyone will ever be held accountable for 9/11, just as in the JFK assassination. But we all know it was not the 19 saudi’s with boxcutters.
We all know it was the evil that continues.
Finding out these truths has not been easy. To become illusioned is overwhelming. But once you know, you cannot unknow. Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge is power.
Thank you for all your reporting and commitment to the truth.
Belief corrupts reason. Absolute belief corrupts absolutely.
You’re extremely correct. As citizens of this planet we need to make some noise or something. It was the starting point for what is taking place now
All a bit like geo engineering and flouride still around but no one in the control group are listening! Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the persons involved in 9/11 came forward and backed up Ted Walters openly!
Wouldn’t those responsible for 911 were behind bars and the world know the truth?
You know James, I apologize for my lack of feedback that may have contributed to your “blue in the face” demeanor at the conclusion of this presentation. I should have spoken up before this. I failed to follow through on my intentions.
I became aware of you when during the covid shamdemic and pretty promptly became a member here. That event created the crack in my world view. I’m still reeling from it.
My sister in law tried to tell me 15 years ago that we were being lied to about what actually happened on 9/11. She demonstrated that a material used in demolitions was found to be in the debris of the buildings. And I just dismissed it. I found a loosely plausible explanation for it and I quickly went back to the comfort of my delusions.
For a person like me, it defies credulity to even imagine an evil so profound. And that it’s US–the us of which I used to consider myself a part. I love my country. I was raised to be a patriot. My family sacrificed a lot in the “cause of freedom” we believed. I lived that way for the first 60 plus years of my life. Now I can’t fly my flag; and it breaks my heart because I promised my late father that I would.
The truth is a really tough swallow at first: an “acquired taste” as they say. But once you ingest it you can’t very well spit it out. It changes you forever.
That being said, I still feel like I’m in the closed eyes, slow blink, raised eyebrow recoil stage of absorption, honestly. And I mourn the loss of my dream or my beliefs; they were so much a part of who I considered myself to be.
There are very few people I can even talk to about these things. Very few. To illustrate, when I mentioned to a visiting friend recently that J-6 was “not an insurrection’, I can’t describe the look that came over her face except to say that she looked like she was hearing a view that was stupid? Uninformed? Delusional? Dangerous maybe? I threw out some facts to her. I said she’d probably never even heard about these things and she said that was true, she had not. She gets her news from the three or four networks on the idiot box. I told her they were bought and paid for and that she would only hear the news the sponsors wanted her to hear. I dropped it. She happened to be here over 9/11 and I asked her to watch your five minute video and she did. I don’t know what she made of it. But I planted a seed. Maybe it won’t take her fifteen years.
I am grateful for all of the content that you provide to the world here. I really appreciate it. It’s why I became a supporting member. I value this work you do and this content.
Additionally I’ve been meaning to tell you, that I really really appreciated the piece on Larson Rose’s book, The Most Dangerous Superstition. I loved the way you went through the book; I did it page by page. And I did buy the book and read it. I think it’s one of the most important books I’ve ever read. So thanks for that as well.
And take heart. You make a difference. You do good work. I’m borrowing this line from the musical Wicked, but “because I knew you I have been changed for good.”
too long
I can’t tell who I am replying to but my intention is to reply to utter.
I said the exact same thing about Jan 6 to someone the other day.
“Donald Trump didn’t cause Jan 6”. I did not say it argumentatively. Just in passing.
She had the same reaction as your friend.
In 2016, after a few years of listening to Corbett, Fitts, Broze and Christianson, I happened to read a link here on the Corbett Report to a lecture series by Attny Dan Sheehan of the Romero Institute when he was teaching at University of California at Santa Cruz.
One lecture series from 2012 was called the Trajectory of Justice and was about the 8 cases that changed America, which he litigated or was involved in. The series was life changing.
To hear the back stories of Watergate, Attica, Black Panthers, Pentagon Papers, and the one that cost him so much, Iran Contra. Just unbelievable. He’s a constitutional lawyer so I learned a great deal.
His exposure of the Karen Silkwood case should be made into a new Silkwood movie. Not the Hollywood gloss-over (no offense to Mike Nichols and the cast) but the real deal and the real reasons.
Dan Sheehan, Trajectory of Justice, Romero Institute, 2012. I believe it is still available on youtube.
Thanks for mentioning the Trajectory of Justice. Found the series on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVza7sesLJh4Z7Yst1PUqBdwKcOfLPVyi
Thank you Jo-ann, for providing that playlist link!
Thanks, Jo-Ann.
Interesting tidbit – along with the Santa Cruz lecture series, and about the same time, I happened to watch the video of a symposium about initiating a lawsuit against the government over 9/11 hosted by Mark Crispin Miller at Cooper Union School in NYC. I will try to find and link.
I think it was around 2016?
In any case, Dan Sheehan was invited to speak on the legal strategy of bringing the lawsuit.
He used the Karen Silkwood case as an example of what the plaintiff’s would actually be up against should they proceed with the lawsuit.
It was eye opening. Revelatory.
And made me want to watch all of his lectures.
OK, have tried to link but seem unable to.
The symposium is called 9/11 Justice in Focus at Cooper Union, 2016.
Exactly. It’s one rabbit hole after another. Thank you for commiserating and being understanding. It’s good to have the support.
That was utterly relatable. I’m thankful that I found several independent journalists such as James almost two decades ago; before The Internet Censorship of 2015 began.
I’m very much a loud speaker with nearly everyone I come in contact with regarding the truth of how great the deceptions in this world really are. There is a mourning that accompanies the discovering of the truth because, ignorance really is bliss. It’s a very temporary happiness,, but it’s best to know the truth. Convid19 was a wakeup call for a lot of people. They literally made it very obvious, and have led many people that “woke up” into several controlled opposition deceptions.
The more we critically examine the things that we’ve been told are true, the crazier we sound to those that prefer to live in their bliss. We lose friends,, family disassociates themselves,, and some lose their careers over it. These are all just a few of the results of becoming educated and making decisions based upon that knowledge.
Thank you for sharing your journey and I do hope that you are able to find peace and rest, first with God and secondly for your soul in these unprecedented times we find ourselves in
What a lovely response. Thank you so much for that. I like to tell my Christian friends that ignorance is bliss but the truth shall set you free. I feel like I’m waiting for that 2nd part to kick in. Yeah, I’m way grateful to know the truth, I’d rather feel with the reality than to continue to labor under the illusions. Thank you for your understanding.
To utter:
Like setatliberty and lovetodust, I found your story UTTER-ly relatable and profounding moving. (No, it most certainly was NOT too long.)
It wasn’t painful for me to wake up to the lies told about 9/11, probably because the person who first shared the truth with me is so trustworthy and had done a lot of research on that crime.
My sister had a harder time making herself listen to facts that upended the way she was “trained” for decades and decades (as was I) to think.
As a result, she and I didn’t talk about 9/11 or anything else of consequence until finally, during the early part of the scamdemic, she was ready to catch on. Since then, she’s gone at least partway down many rabbit holes, as I’m sure you have, utter.
By partly, I mean she gets as far as she needs to in order to discern the true versus the false on any given topic. Then she stops, satisfied that she can no longer be fooled on that subject.
I join setatliberty in wishing you God’s blessings of peace, joy, and power, all of which come from living Christ-like love and knowing the truth that, as you mentioned, sets us free.
Hi Utter, don’t get discouraged, you are not alone, not by a long shot and the more your eyes open and the longer you walk this path the more like-minded people will gravitate towards you. Be aware of the gullible or naive who have merely swapped one part of the illusion for another (I have Qanon in mind here but there are other distractions and time wasters out there as well) for they are just as immovable in their beliefs as the still asleep masses.
I’ve been doing this since the 80’s so if you think you are alone now you should have tried enlightening people with no internet or easily reference-able material outside of books or newsletters that are easy for people to dismiss out of hand. With the internet there is NO excuse for continued ignorance, all the information is there, all they have to is look.
If you enjoyed ‘The greatest superstition’, you might also enjoy ‘The End of All Evil’ by Jeremy Locke.
(edit, that book is out of print but the author has allowed a PDF to be linked: https://www.mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/EndofallEvil1.pdf )
Thank you so much.
Fascinating answered many of the questions I had about the phone calls. I like the way you use the time lines to disprove much of the official story lies. Thank both of you for all you do for truth.
Four theories for the phone calls:
Walter:
1. Impersonation using voice morphing technology.
2. Actual passengers /flight attendants made the calls during a hijacking drill. They were given a script/talking points etc. describing things to people on the ground.
James:
3. Live hijacking simulation/exercise
where the passengers weren’t in on it, weren’t given a script but they were witnessing something happening and they believed it to be real.
Fawlty:
4. Passengers/crew made the calls on the ground in a hanger or somewhere else
under the direction of government thugs holding a gun etc. I discovered that phone calls could be made on the ground and inserted into the air traffic controllers feed.
James’ bold prediction:
“Not a single person will thank Ted Walter for this work and say thank you I learned a lot…”
And rightly so James!
And the reason they won’t be thankful is because:
1. He presented no new information (at least to me).
2. He is 23 years late to the scene.
3. Unfortunately, despite his obvious enthusiasm for the subject, he has great difficulty expressing himself. 🙁
I don’t blame him for any of these, it just is what it is.
James’ predicted reactions from Corbetteers:
1. Yeah but what about the buildings?
Debating endlessly about the ways buildings blew up…
2. No there were no planes, it was all holograms.
3. Who cares, whatever. You should be talking about immigrants eating dogs!
It’s sad enough when you regularly disparage 9/11 truthers who so much as discuss anything related to the twin towers’ destruction.
But now you’ve taken it to a whole new level by making a pre-emptive strike at these ‘pyrotechnic-ers’. 🙁
I still would love to see someone/something prove me wrong about my bold statements re: JFK, MLK, RFK, 9/11, Covid-19 etc., that they are all done deals.
They had to be called out in the days/week(s) following the event (its announcement etc. ) for any justice to be done to the perps.
After that they were all done deals and nothing will be able to break through
the tightly controlled coverup shield provided by the perps.
You hit the nail on the head towards the very end, echoing what I just said above, despite the public coming around to JFK, 9/11 etc. the tightly controlled MSM refuses to breathe a word about it.
The history books have been written for these events. The most we can ever hope for are tiny footnotes to be added.
Just for some added clarification.
The work that Ted Walter and his peers are doing is certainly appreciated.
But let’s not kid ourselves. We certainly can win the war for 9/11 justice, in public opinion. And that shouldn’t be taken lightly.
But the chance that the 9/11 perps will ever be brought to justice is as likely as us ‘returning’ to the moon in the next 100 years.
Fawlty Towers,
What the hell?!!
Are they intolerably inflamed?! …the hemorrhoids in your head that you are sitting on?
The words that you say come out all stinky.
In 2005 when I found out about the 9/11 Cover-up, I would intensely search for 9/11 news EVERY day. Hours and hours. This went on daily for years. No hyperbole.
I remember the forums and the 9/11 truth community’s excitement when Sofia Shafquat’s 2006 documentary “911 Mysteries Part 1: Demolitions” came out. It was a superb dissemination tool!
I remember when the Jane Standley Salomon Brothers building video first appeared, and how the forums were trying to verify its authenticity. I watched “live” the NIST Building 7 broadcast and the 9/11 truthers in the room at that unfolding event.
I watched how weird concepts crept into the public space with agents like Morgan Reynolds, while the data exposing those perverted concepts was ignored.
I watched the evolution, the day by day and sometimes hour by hour developing history of the 9/11 Truth Movement. I saw details which have long since been memory holed. Quite frankly, if a person wasn’t there watching the sequence of events unfold, they missed that context. That context cannot be communicated.
Phone Calls
I remember back then as new phone-call research was shared during those growing days of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Interview 1898 – Ted Walter Dissects the 9/11 Phone Calls had my strong interest. I had to split it up into two segments with my schedule so I wouldn’t miss a word. Despite my 9/11 background, in that short interview Ted Walter brought up insights and details that I had either long forgotten or never knew. I was enthralled throughout.
I want to learn. That is WHY I am here at the Corbett Report.
White Pill
Ted Walter’s communication and concepts during that last “White Pill” segment was outstanding!
It was monumental!
Fawlty Towers,
That is such bullshit when you say stuff like:
1. He presented no new information (at least to me).
2. He is 23 years late to the scene.
3. Unfortunately, despite his obvious enthusiasm for the subject, he has great difficulty expressing himself.
FT, “No.”
James Corbett does NOT “regularly disparage 9/11 truthers who” talk about “the twin towers’ destruction”.
I know about this because demolition was a major tool in my dissemination of the 9/11 Cover-up, and my stats on 9/11 dissemination are stellar.
Corbett has often pointed out that there are many other VERY important holes to the official 9/11 Story. We neglect those at our peril in the dissemination of 9/11 Truth.
DISSEMINATION of 9/11 Truth– I will always bang the drum on this. 9/11 Truth can help demolish the “System”.
Good lord HRS.
I wasn’t taking a shot at you. Heck I never even mentioned your name!
It is clear you put in years of research into 9/11 and devoted a great amount of your time to the 9/11 truth movement. That is highly commendable.
To this day you, James and I still are very much interested in the subject. But that doesn’t mean we must see eye to eye and about all its details.
I was commenting about details pertaining to the phone calls.
I explained how I didn’t learn anything new in this podcast.
James’ spidey-senses were correct. That’s why he decided to take a pre-emptive strike at us Corbeteers during the interview. He had a gut feeling we wouldn’t be all that impressed with Ted’s phone call work. And I said he was right.
For novices new to the 9/11 scene, sure the interview could have been very interesting, perhaps even fascinating.
You obviously missed the more than dozen interviews he’s done where he takes pot shots at the pyrotechnic-ers.
Here are just two recent ones:
‘the meaning of population control’
‘interview 1897 james corbett answers 9-11 questions’
James:
… and it has always been part of the consternation that I have about the way that 9-11 truth developed, that it became 100% totally, solely and completely focused on the destruction of the buildings. To the exclusion of absolutely every other examination of the event, which is why I don’t have big long documentaries about the destruction of the towers. As I say, I certainly don’t believe that they collapsed spontaneous there due to fires. But I do not concentrate my research firepower on that, because everyone, I mean literally everyone else who talks about 9-11 truth talks about that.
H.R.S:
I know about this because demolition was a major tool in my dissemination of the 9/11 Cover-up, and my stats on 9/11 dissemination are stellar.
What has the fact that you personally emphasized the pyrotechnics of 9/11 got to do with how James treats them? Huh? It was a major tool for you. James shuns them!
Corbett has often pointed out that there are many other VERY important holes to the official 9/11 Story. We neglect those at our peril in the dissemination of 9/11 Truth.
DISSEMINATION of 9/11 Truth– I will always bang the drum on this. 9/11 Truth can help demolish the “System”.
James neglects the pyrotechnics of 9/11 at his on peril.
I hope some day he will finally bite the bullet and take them up, head on. Because you don’t need to be a scientist/engineer etc. to do this.
#5 There were no actual real world callers, only recording made by people who do not exist and for which CIA provided covers, knowing full well nobody in the media would dig around too intently to endanger the scam.
mkey, your theory #5 is quite a stretch. 🙂
I’ve seen/heard people talk about it many times over the years.
It can be broken down into three parts:
– Recordings of callers
– Fabricated voices
– Fabricated voices of non-existing people
I’m with you on recorded calls. That would make sense. To keep total control of what was released to the public.
Fabricated voices could have been of the actual passengers’ voices or it could have been of voices created of non-existing people as you state.
I don’t think either of the fabricated voices would make sense.
Starting with fabricated voices of the actual people.
Why make recordings of actual people and introduce ridiculous scripts?
“Hi Mom this is Mark Bingham”
Or make recordings of actual people who then whisper “It’s a frame” at the very end of the call?
As far as fabricated voices of non-existing people is concerned (passengers), that can be discounted immediately.
Each and every person named who made a phone call has relatives who exist(ed) who were interviewed and their lives have been dissected in great detail since 9/11.
I can no longer find this on the internet, but many years ago there was a presentation on the radio show Coast to Coast by a woman who had been a stewardess for many years. Initially she began her discussion by advising that the flight attendants on flight 93 had not followed any of the taught directives that attendants were supposed to follow in times of distress. She had a theory that flight 93 had actually landed at a military base, (she named the base, in accordance with the amount of time from take off until the phone calls were made) and the passengers who made the phone calls got off the plane and made their calls from their cell phones on the base. She theorized that perhaps they were told that this was part of the military exercises that were being done that day. After they made their phone calls, they got back on the plane, and the passengers were then killed in some way (gassed inside or something like that). I remember finding this compelling, particularly as there was no evidence of the plane crash, nor any way that a cellphone could make those calls from altitude.
I saw that documentary too. I wonder where that flight attendant is now.
Rebekah Roth is the woman you are thinking of and her website is
https://www.rebekahroth.com/
Her real name is not Rebekah Roth though. She had no less than four different aliases!
I did a deep dive into her when she first started to make 9/11 waves and actually corresponded with her via e-mail for a time.
Her credentials as a legit flight attendant have been questioned by many.
This video can help you out if you want to take a dive
into the Rebekah Roth rabbit hole:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Po8NgBllQw
Ah, yes, thank you! I was trying to find the original Coast to Coast broadcast, but couldn’t. Despite whatever issues may be around her background, her interpretation of events was, at least to me, as credible as the ‘official’ story of flight 93. Thanks for the link.
I got a chuckle when I read that. I don’t know if you intended it to come off sounding as it did?
Given that the official story is total hogwash, saying her story is as credible as the government’s isn’t exactly giving her a thumbs up. 🙂
HRS mentioned James Perloff just below.
I devoted years of my life studying the events of 9/11, more time in total than I devoted to any of my university degrees.
Of all the ‘name players’ that came up in my 9/11 research, Perloff’s summary of what actually happened on 9/11 comes closest to mine. I’d check out his 9/11 work if you haven’t already.
Israel. Sigh. I would like someone to explain to me how Israel orders the US military to perform the military exercises that they were doing as these events took place.
It’s important to be open-minded when you think this through and not jump to any conclusions.
Israel obviously wouldn’t have ordered the U.S. to do anything.
But if they had the idea first (Israel) they could have strongly suggested that it would facilitate the operation.
LOL. In other words, so Israel decides it’s a good idea to bring down the WTC, and they contact the US military and suggest that, in order to facilitate their plan, the military should hold similar exercises at the same time. Is that what you’re saying??
Not quite. 🙂
More along the lines of the top level perps who planned the operation (U.S. and Israel) got together in secret meetings and fleshed out how it would go.
As the meetings progressed different ideas were considered. One of the ideas (military exercises) was proposed by one of the parties and agreed upon by both.
I see it as a joint/cooperative operation, not one country dictating to another everything they will do.
Who knows, Saudi Arabia could have also been included as part of the team.
Let’s not forget that Silverstein and Netanyahu would have weekly phone calls leading up to and I presume after 9/11.
These two chums no doubt played a huge roll in the operation.
Silverstein inking the deal to lease the towers just months before 9/11 and Netanyanu the man who was obsessed with nukes for decades, boldly predicting in 1995 that the next attack on the WTC would involve nukes.
That still doesn’t answer the question about who ordered the military exercises that morning. So, now you think Silverstein and Netanyahu? LOL
In September 2020, Corbett Report Member flybyknightusa briefly mentioned “Rebekah Roth” when compaing a new person on the scene.
~~WWW corbettreport.com/september-open-thread/#comment-93554
He gives a link to an article James Perloff wrote about Roth in 2016…
https://web.archive.org/web/20160104004017/https://jamesperloff.com/2016/01/02/some-in-truth-movement-are-asking-questions-about-rebekah-roth/
At our Texas 9/11 Truth Group meetings, “Rebekah Roth” became a joke during dinner discussions.
In the Perloff article, he mentions “Kurt Haskell, famed as attorney-turned-Truther after personally witnessing the “Underwear Bomber” fiasco”.
I called Kurt shortly after the event. I kept a long timeline log about Kurt on 911blogger.
Thanks for the info. I never went any further with this, other than thinking that the theories she was portraying in that radio show regarding flight 93 sounded logical, particularly as there was no evidence of any plane crash in Shanksville, and the issue about cellphones was dubious. I don’t abide by the ‘Israel did it’ theory, as I have to assume that Israel couldn’t order the US military to have hijacking exercises at exactly the time these events took place. Having passengers in flight 93 think that they were part of a hijack exercise, however, does live within the boundaries of logic.
A little correction to my post above.
Rebekah Roth has at least four names in total,
not four aliases.
Rebekah Roth
KoreAnn Ashlie (real estate agent)
Monika Gainor (snake oil saleswoman)
Sara Rebecca Bulla Folger
LOL…I only said that her interpretation could certainly be a viable explanation of the events of flight 93. Of course, now, with my tin foil hat on, I wonder if all the negative information about her was not injected by a 3 letter agencies, because the information she was addressing questioned the government narrative. Who knows…..
It’s a good knee-jerk explanation for the negative information, but if you really dig deep into the RR story you will see that it would have been difficult for the CIA et al inject it 20-30+ years ago, all anticipating 9/11 and her subsequent books 15 years later. 🙂
That’s when she began her alias journey and star-studded careers conflicting with her alleged 30+ year career as a flight attendant.
I am fascinated with 911 truth and grateful for every piece of research and shared information… It is one thing to be a conspiracy realist, and another thing to be a conspiracy realist with facts at her fingertips. I thank you, James. I am also grateful to you because I maintain that you are one of the information disseminators whom I can trust.
So three ways a call could’ve been made from the planes:
1) Direct from cellphone to cell (at low enough altitudes)
2) Via airphone
3) From cellphone via onboard picocell
With the added variable that an operator could’ve been involved with any calls initiated as above.
And one more: Everything got sent to the FBI from GTE (and others?), then transcribed into reports.
With all those variables, I’m not surprised the timestamps don’t line up.
This interview was a lot of conjecture. The guest says “this proves the hijackings didn’t happen”. Not really.
Government endorsed history is nothing but a kids book to colonize the next generation. The more we peel back the layers of official stories the harder for they them those to colonize our kids. Thank you so much.
Personally, I don’t like to give or receive thanks or apologies. Actions speak those words just fine, as far as I’m concerned.
— WHITE PILL —
39:40
James Corbett says:
”So you need to give me the White Pill.”
40:21
Ted Walter says:
”… just in day-to-day life, in sort of the mainstream world out there, the so-called Normies, I see much more OPENNESS to 911 Truth…
…Pretty much like 9 out of 10 people who I introduced myself to these days are anywhere from neutral and interested to completely on board and supportive.
So there’s that.”
41:24
”In the sort of Mainstream Alternative Media that has kind of sprung up over the last to 10 years…we are starting to see people really talk about this much more frequently, much more openly.
I could run through the list of names, but your audience is probably familiar with them, the figures out there who’ve been speaking about this.
So I think we are actually getting closer to some sort of a tipping point where it basically won’t be taboo…at least in the Alternative Media or in Alternative Internet Spaces.
And I think that that’s going to gradually spill over to the mainstream as well.”
”I think that there is reason to keep fighting.
…Let’s use JFK as an example.
People kept learning things for decades and decades. …to the point now where the vast majority of the public believes that it was not Lee Harvey Oswald.
Has anything come of that?
No.
But I think 9/11…has greater potential than even JFK did.
If we get to that level of awareness and I think we’re in a different environment now…
So I think that there is reason to keep fighting.
I think people should be hopeful.
Because if we crack this open…for it to have a MASSIVE IMPACT on our SOCIETY.”
46:12
James Corbett asks,
”What is the ultimate end goal of 9-11 justice?”
Ted Walter replies,
”I think 9-11 justice means much more than a result in an outcome in a legal proceeding.
When we use the term 9-11 justice, we are talking about a widespread realization and reckoning about what actually happened on 9-11.
That is impossible for The-Powers-That-Be to suppress, and impossible for them to prevent actual action.”
”And in terms of looking at things like the phone calls and the hijackings — these kinds of discoveries are important for reaching new people.”
I have to admire the guest doing that kind of focused work, I tried something like it one tome but ot was too depressing so I stopped.
On the topic of if Mr Corbett should cover “dog eating” or 9/11 Academic Agent has a video about the media coverage and how it “penetrates the lizard brain” in a way facts never have been able to…… Mr Corbetts MOST EFFECTIVE video on 9/11 was probably the parody he did because humor and snark breaks thru peoples apathy in a way his FAR BETTER and historically important 9/11 work can not.
The real blackpill on 9/11 Truth is not that we will never know the truth- they probably will one day. Its that, while this guest has actual facts that he carefully went thru even if he convinces people they will tend to double-think the new fact into its own silo where it does not make them rethink their worldview.
People need to reset their whole Worldview and understanding of how the world works and THAT is something that most people wont do (I will link a video on that subject at the bottom)
One of the reasons that most people do not matter as to the outcome is that most people dont make decisions based on facts, they make them on emotion. Their worldview is imposed on them.
This brings us to that question of how many people today really care about some dead people from 20 years ago? ACTUALLY care on an emotional level??
How many people actually care that Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy that they change any aspect of how they function??
(AA’s video on the media genius of bringing up dog eating)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvGo0uVtiv4
If 9/11 happened today how many people who are not boomers would really CARE??? I would posit 1/3 rd of the country would dance like Israelis at New York or Washington getting hurt today and another 3rd would just shrug…. False flags are less effective today for all the wrong reasons.
Donald Davis talking about Worldview Warfare with Jay Dyer (starts about 7 min in)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVZdCSSYlrU
Another example of presentation mattering is Blackpilled who covered how the phone call story and how Boxcutters first got going as a thing.
Blackpilled has a far less well put together set of facts, but he does play lots of clips and tell the story effectively in a way that gets thru to a normal brain better then this Guest.
To be honest Mr Corbetts guest is who I would listen to to KNOW THE FACTS, but if I was trying to convince a normie I’d show them one of Blackpilleds better video essays (annoyingly long intro because its a stream and dont read the comments ……really…just dont…)
https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/2021-06-13-00-29-53:c
“American Airlines 757s were equipped with a system branded Air One that had two boxes: a front-end that handed seatback phones (collected card swipes) and a back-end that handled the air-to-ground link run by Claircom, which used terrestrial stations, not satellites. United Airlines had Verizon’s similar Airphone system with seatback ph0nes functional. American had turned off the front-end boxes in late 2000 because they were phasing out seatback phones. Since seatback handsets were non-functional, why do we see calls coming through the system? The back-end box had multiple interface jacks for future expansion with things like WiFi. This call came through a box plugged into port 4. This is not speculation, the evidence above says so. That box could only have been a cellular base station called a picocell (aka microcell).
This detail is significant because it proves someone other than the hijackers was involved. That party was either spying on or assisting hijackers. The Claircom box and corresponding Verizon boxes were not accessible from passenger compartments.Someone installed picocells in four planes ahead of time.” – Robert Wagner
It’s pretty obvious something else was going on. The picocell and a drill make the most sense.
-What are the odds the first person killed would be ex-IDF/
“8:19 A.M. Flight 11 Crew Members Contact Ground Personnel Flight attendant Betty Ann Ong alerts American Airlines ground personnel to a hijacking underway on Flight 11, reporting that the cockpit is unreachable.
Using an inflight phone, Ong transmits detailed information about the hijacking on the call which lasts about 25 minutes. Shortly before Ong’s call, a hijacker, likely Satam al-Suqami, had stabbed the passenger seated directly in front of him in first class. Hijackers Mohamed Atta and Abdul Aziz al-Omari are seated in close proximity as well. The passenger, identified as Daniel M. Lewin by the flight crew, had served four years in the Israeli army. The Final Report of the National Commission on Mission Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States speculates he may have tried to stop the hijackers. Lewin was likely the first person killed in the 9/11 attacks.”
Fred Kwan effect going on with the callers.
“Hey guys, I just wanted you to know that, the reactors won’t take it; the ship is breaking apart and all that… Just FYI.”
Hello James. Thanks to you and Ted for this excellent discussion on the phone records. Lots here I did not know and I agree they sound like people who think they are in an exercise. For me, from day one, 9/11 was an obvious false flag. Those building could not have been destroyed by planes – just as a car cannot be utterly destroyed into dust by a jet fuel packed bird. No way! Impossible! It was, and remains, just obvious nonsense. Also nothing – -not even a bird – ever even hit building Seven. Everything official was lies. Twenty two odd years later I am left with two related thought areas. The first is just how many people could have pulled it off? My guess is perhaps 20. How long was it being planned? Maybe ten years. What was it for? Endless wars. Who could have done it? State level intelligence with bottomless financial resources and elite black ops from a handful of rich powerful lands. Who was the real brain behind it? The real ruler, or rulers, of the world. No other explanations are remotely plausible. The second thought area is why does nobody ( or very few) seem to care? It is like living on the side of a volcano or earthquake ridge. It is just to big and issue to care about. What difference would it make anyway even if they did care. People care about being considered odd by the people around them. When I was a teenager I had to pretend to like punk rock and keep quiet about liking Michael Jackson. If that truth had been known by my peers I would have been ostracized. Much easier to parrot the party line and not think. Ted said that he thinks a critical mass could do something. Maybe. But I – at least – think pretty much everybody ( even my mum) knows it was an inside job, everybody knows JFK was shot by the CIA, everybody knows the C19 vaccines were a poison game of Russian Roulette but almost nobody wants to attract any negative attention to themselves and so silent they remain. Easier to take the junk and hope you will not be the unlucky one. That way you belong , you remain, you are inside. This fear of standing out coupled with the internet, propaganda and the lose of religious based morality in the powerful, augers less freedom for us and a lot more freedom and power for the powers that should not be, but are. Richard III of England killed his nephews in the Tower, everybody knew, nobody said a thing for a hundred years. 9/11 is the same. 200 years from now the truth will be openly discussed and the sociologists and psychologists of the future will investigate the strange habit the “present” has of being unable to see the obvious truth, or if able, incapable of speaking about it. Thanks for all your fantastic work. You help to keep me sane in a mad, mad, world.
Of all the ‘plane’ phone calls that were made on 9/11 with incriminating evidence, one stands out above the rest for me.
It was the call from CeeCee Lyles to her husband.
CeeCee was a former police officer/detective before she became a flight attendant.
With her police training and experience she knew police ‘lingo’.
She had police smarts. That’s why she started her 9/11 call asking her husband to “listen carefully”.
At the very end of the call she was able to catch her handler(s) off guard and sneak in this message “It’s a frame” by whispering it just before she hung up the phone.
RIP CeeCee.
I heard that story/voice recording too in the Pearl Harbor 9/11 video on Rumble. Very interesting, and I guess that would support the theory that the passengers were brought to the ground and then forced to make the call under the force of a gun. However, if that was the case, wouldn’t there be a good deal of passengers who would be crying uncontrollably in fear/terror and even be able to talk (I am not saying you are wrong, I am trying to just understand it better). Wouldn’t it be more likely that the pilots told the crew that they were part of a super-realistic war game/exercise and that them calling their loved ones was part of it, because if that was the case, they would not be totally hysterical?
As I laid out in a comprehensive post about a year ago, in order to understand everything that happened on 9/11 you have to start with the destruction of the towers. That was key to the success of the entire mission.
From there you can work backwards and piece together pretty much everything else that happened on that day.
So if the towers had to come down, powerful explosives had to be used to accomplish that. But planes had to first be flown into them, because we couldn’t blame terrorists for planting such explosives. Planes plus fires could explain the towers’ destruction to the ignorant masses.
But we couldn’t rely on amateur terrorists with little to no aviation skills to fly jets into the towers when pro’s with 25 years experience couldn’t even do it.
So the jets had to be flown on auto-pilot or via remote control.
But the scheduled jets couldn’t fly at the speeds recorded, they would fall apart. So special military jets were used (fitted with missiles on their bellies).
The passengers and ‘hijackers’ wouldn’t have been on these planes that crashed into the towers. Their planes would have had to have landed somewhere and been replaced by the military jets.
When the planes landed the passengers would have been taken to a special detainment center. Obviously when each passenger made their call they would have been secluded from the rest of the passengers.
So none of the calls were made from the air.
That would explain their clarity and the impossibility of successful calls at 25-30,000 feet.
Right I agree with pretty much all of that. what I was saying is that I think the passengers were told that their call was just part of an exercise/war game; I think they thought they weren’t in any danger and would be ok to go home after they made their call. I don’t think they were forcibly kidnapped at gunpoint to make their calls, as they would all of been hysterical (just my take on it, I respect all theories).
Also, could you give a link to your comprehensive post? I would love to read it.
That certainly could have been the case, the perps would certainly prefer to deal with a compliant crowd rather than a fearful rebellious one.
In either case, each passenger would have been isolated when they made their call. The perps had to be in total control when the calls were made.
The calls may have even been recorded before they were sent through to the loved ones, to prevent any obvious sabotage during the call.
Exactly how the calls were made, their location and what happened to the passengers (how they were disposed of) will likely always remain a mystery.
Here’s the link my post that I referred to above:
https://www.corbettreport.com/walter-peacewar911/#comment-155496
“The calls may have even been recorded before they were sent through to the loved ones, to prevent any obvious sabotage during the call.”
That is an interesting point I never thought of before, and I bet you are correct.
I have no idea what happened with these people, but I’m pretty confident that if one were to find themselves kidnapped by CIA and the other goon agencies, they would soon have sufficient motivation to cooperate. These monsters will stoop at nothing. Besides, if you had a group of people and needed to make some phone calls, it’s not like all of them had to do it.
One aspect that should not be ignored: how difficult would it be for these agencies to make up some or all of the involved identities? They lie as efficiently as sun shines, they have ample experience in providing cover stories… how difficult would it be?
That could be entirely possible as well. I guess that theory is somewhat overlooked because there are first-hand accounts of the (allegded) people they were calling, but again, that could be staged. The craziest part of that video is where Ted mentions there was a lady who did not mention, on her phone call, the person who had supposedey been stabbed in the aisle next to her.
I have been wondering lately if there are any researchers who have tried to locate where they could have buried/destroyed the original planes. I have not seen anything though. Definitely not an easy thing to do though.
You would think if the calls were all completely fake creations they would err on the side of being too perfect, too on the nose, rather than too chaotic and inconsistent. Although having the guy announce himself to his mum by his full name does sound like the sort of mistake AI would make 🙂
And thank you to everyone doing this research and analysis.
The Middle Ages were called the Dark Ages, and the past 150+ years will be known as the Age of Lies.
Graduate students will write their thesis on “Did Truth Exist in (add your own time frame.)
physicsandreason channel does not get many new additions. In the 2024 installment the fella keeps hammering on about the last 30 seconds of the tower demolition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QQHhc1OH54
Jonathon Cole certainly has his heart in the right place.
He knows the towers didn’t collapse.
But he refuses to keep up with the times and latest research.
He clings to the outdated ‘thermite did it’ theory.
Niels Harrit took great pains at the 9/11 Toronto Hearings (the same hearings Cole spoke at) to hammer home that thermite is an incendiary, not an explosive.
Incendiaries, no matter how spectacularly placed and ignited cannot throw multi-ton column assemblies laterally 500+ feet and turn internal core columns to dust!
Was thermite used on 9/11? Yes.
Was it the ‘explosive’ used to bring the towers down? No.
I am aware of his experiments on how thermite can be used to cut steel, but I am not aware that he put forward the notion that thermite was used to “blow up” the buildings. If so, I find that completely irrelevant.
I personally really care about this topic. It makes me so angry to think of the horror we all endured that day. Of course, my horror was nothing compared to those poor souls in the twin towers, some of whom jumped to their deaths. And all of this was manipulated with the knowledge of our intelligence agencies. They may well be the actors behind the entire ordeal. It is clear, very clear, to me, that our nation was lied to on a scale impossible for many people to imagine or accept. That level of deception is EVIL. Hear me. It is EVIL. It is a betrayal of unbelievable proportions. Who, in her right mind, can be made aware of these facts and not have her perception of reality totally changed. When I hear politicians mouth or reference the official 9/11 narrative I want to rip my clothes, throw myself to the ground and wail. Woe is me! I am living in a country full of deception. LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, HAVE MERCY ON US. LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, HAVE MERCY ON US. LAMB OF GOD WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD, GRANT US PEACE.
AMEN Sister, loving regards
Investigating the plane calls is a brilliant new twist. I like the way Ted thinks.
I want to thank Ted Walter for all his work analyzing 9/11 phone calls, and for making his work available to us all.
It’s tremendously important to expose, as much as is possible, every aspect of 9/11 non-sense, so that normies cannot wriggle out of facing the truth.
I would strongly urge James to interview Dr. Judy Wood on her great work “Where Did the Towers Go?” which is the only theory that fits all the evidence observed on that day and after.