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Interview 1356 – Ray Vahey Presents BitChute

by | Apr 23, 2018 | Interviews | 24 comments

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In this week’s edition of the Social Media Alternatives series we discuss BitChute.com with Ray Vahey.

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  1. I Shot Santa on 04/24/2018 at 3:37 am

    Thank you for helping me realize just how ignorant I am on tech. JimBob who didn’t really understand a word of what he just read, but he’s okay with that.

  3. generalbottlewasher on 04/24/2018 at 11:45 am

    The use of Youtube is easier for me. The form(format) seems to follow the function of The Corbett Reports concept in-toto. James’s creation seamlessly flows with Youtubes characteristics functions creation while simultaneously being diametrically opposed politically and philosophically. I may have said that in a poor way but I can’t agree with Ray Vahey that the comment section works well on Bit-Chute. It just doesn’t feel right. It’s off where as Youtubes on, in all aspects except in the policy and political parts of Youtubes in-toto. But the politics don’t register during my usage because it fits so comfortably in my immersion with the Corbett Report. Where as Bit-chute is a pain in navigation and interaction with the Corbet gestaltalt.
    This is my lesson for the day. Freedom I Won’t. I won’t use YouTube and the discomfort and displeasure will pass. I will miss the good old communitee and will look to a new one with determination and hope for Bit-chute to fix it up for freedoms sake!

    • generalbottlewasher on 04/24/2018 at 12:01 pm

      P.S. the lesson for you is to understand the morphogenetic field exhibited here.
      1. The story of Freeloading Jack.
      2. P2P and blockchain protocols fixes are, just as easily, planting and killing obs.
      3. Rupert Shelldrake Phd. Is not on facebook? When the morphogenetic field works who needs facebook!
      4. Thank you Anonymint.Great suggestions at the archive.

    • Octium on 04/25/2018 at 8:47 am

      I don’t trust the Disqus commenting system which is now owned by Zeta Global.

      “Our Data Cloud contains billions of unique profiles and signals that seamlessly integrate with our patented AI to help marketers acquire, retain and grow customer relationships that increase revenue, build loyalty and improve marketing ROI” – Zeta Website

      Sounds like Big Evil Google like Big Data to me.

      Also, I notice that Bitchute has the guest commenting feature turned off. While that might be good for reducing spam, it also means that unsuspecting users could get in to trouble by having their comments accessible or accidentally posted to other sites that they never intended.

    • Duck on 04/25/2018 at 11:44 am

      I really wonder what the Net will look like in a few years, Bryan Lunduke did a talk a while back (on his site or…uhh, Youtube…) “The time of the Internet giants is coming to an end” where he talks about how and why he thinks the future of the net will be more like the 90’s with smaller versions of the googles and Amazons. He points out that their way of making money is kinda a pyramid scheme. I’m not sure myself, the only thing stopping me using Bitchute more is the search is a pain and I dont know how to save videos from it to my computer.
      On the bright sideit now will play on my phone browser.

  4. Jason Carswell on 04/24/2018 at 3:46 pm

    I whole heartedly agree! There is a huge problem with up/down ratios regarding torrents, etc.

    Also, BitChute, D-Tube, etc may be rigged or may be authentic efforts but they fail so terribly on so many levels under the false pretense of hope or as legit alternative options.

    BitChute needs to offer better download options and/or legit torrents that actually work. I have had 18 BitChute torrents active since November, and only one completed and another is stuck at 73% while the others haven’t even started.

    I’ll believe BitChute is legit when it adopts IPFS archiving tech, perhaps with foundations also in ZeroNet. I’d also like to convert my entire YouTube collection into an IPFS archive.

    IMHO, everyone that can afford it should have a refrigerator sized server in their workplace and/or home (ie. basement) or whatever that shares stuff over ZeroNet or IPFS (assuming they can work it all out) and they can be rewarded with Filecoin, Namecoin, etc to continue archiving, maintenance, expansion, etc. – rather than relying on the “Cloud” like some benevolent digital heaven. We must take back physical possession of our data from the giant corporations of “convenience” and their clouds. This may be important when the rise of A.I. becomes problematic.

    On a nitpicky note, the YouTube interface and options suck ass, but BitChute is no better. They need an option for basic, advanced, and expert, if not customized user interfaces (ie. Wikipedia preferences).

  6. Jason Carswell on 04/25/2018 at 11:21 am

    Here’s a challenge to BitChute and all potentially progressive video platforms, social networks, etc. etc. etc. who claim to defend freedom…

    Will you build a platform – and give up control over it?

    Would you let your platform/company become a worker directed enterprise, aka, workers cooperative?

    Maybe you arrange a deal to retain 49% of ownership or profits or whatever your deal is, but you let the workers and users determine their own way of organizing. Maybe you franchise it out so that there are as many distributed mirror servers in as many towns as there are McDonalds or Subways – or more. Maybe everyone has their own server at home, by their water heater, as common as a refrigerator and/or freezer, next to their solar power decentralized smart-grid interface. Maybe I’m just a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.

    • Duck on 04/25/2018 at 11:55 am

      Jason Carswell
      Unless you set up a system specifically to be run like that from its inception you’d likely be opening it up to failure from a)people not working together b)People having perverse incentives that cause damage c)Bad actors taking over while everyone else surfs porn thru lazyness
      I guess the MESH DIY internet or B.A.T.M.A.N. could be an example of what your talking about but our local HAM’s never really got behind the idea.

      • Jason Carswell on 04/25/2018 at 10:48 pm

        I didn’t know about MESH DIY or BATMAN. Thanks.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_mesh_network

        “A wireless mesh network (WMN) is a communications network made up of radio nodes organized in a mesh topology. It is also a form of wireless ad hoc network.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.A.T.M.A.N.

        “The Better Approach To Mobile Adhoc Networking (B.A.T.M.A.N.) is a routing protocol for multi-hop mobile ad hoc networks which is under development by the German “Freifunk” community and intended to replace the link state routing protocol – OLSR.”

        I think you’re right about infiltration, for example I2P and FreeNet, like Tor, has childporn etc. If the childporn were not driven underground, it might be easier to catch the active villains, rather than just the digital witnesses and perverts who aren’t actually harming the kids. To my point, once you have censorship then you have abuse of censorship. So if there were absolutely no censorship then there’d be absolute freedom. But that’s a whole other mess that would need to be addressed, but not here.

        If GitHub and GitLab can develop open source projects cooperatively why not a network? The IPFS guys have regular meetings on YouTube and they all see affable.

        People are clever. I’m sure there’d be a way to determine if a file is porn or not, and/or if there’s a better source to get it (ie, not encrypted over IPFS), and or if someone was not contributing, etc. without being all surveillance state on you… etc.

        Your points are absolutely valid, but there could be legit transparent solutions developed.

        I’d love to see Corbett review the elite owners of GitHub, and how they control/monitor/exploit the open source community.

        • Duck on 04/26/2018 at 10:35 pm

          I am ashamed to say I never thought about GitHub and who runs it.
          Honestly while I love this show I’m not sure how tec minded Mr Corbett is, nor how tec minded most of us in his audience are. I’m only semi computer literate.

  7. Duck on 04/25/2018 at 11:47 am

    VoiceOfArabi
    With Google its like the pencils they gave school kids a few years back…”Don’t Do Drugs”
    After being sharpened for a while it’s message became “Do Drugs….”

  8. Octium on 04/27/2018 at 7:33 pm

    The problems with real time mesh networks is that you need lots of interconnected nodes with no isolated islands in between before they become effective.

    It’s a chicken and egg situation. IE it’s not worth investing in joining a mesh network until it becomes established, and it won’t become establish until lots of people join.

    The Video Cassette Recorder initially became popular because people wanted to record programs off the TV and watch them at a time that was convenient for them without the adverts, it didn’t really bother the early adopters that video rentals and sales were not available or economical. Of course once the VCR become ubiquitous, video rentals and sales become a viable business and videos become a medium in their own right (With the succession of DvD, Blu-Ray and NetFlix, piggy backing off the success of VCRs)

    There needs to be a similar intermediate step for Mesh Networking.

    One way might be to have a non-real time “Store and Forward” model, where stand-alone server nodes can serve content to mobile devices (EG phones) with an app on the phone that stores a copy locally that can be automatically uploaded to the next stand-alone server when it comes in range.

    Some kind of reward system would be needed, so that users that assist with propagating information that is useful and wanted are favored over pure consumers of information.

    Actually, I had hopped with the founding of Newsbud that maybe some experimental system like that could be crowd funded as side project and integrated into the site, so that supporters could fund their own “black boxes” and redistribute information around their own neighborhoods for free…but that was before the sled was thrown into the furnace unfortunately 🙁

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