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James takes a moment to ponder two problems inherent in the independent media space: conspiracy rabbit holes leading truth seekers astray and desensitization to dark subject matter. What do you think? Corbett Report members are encouraged to leave your thoughts in the comments below.
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don’t type these things into your search bar
“The News” is a Social Construct. It is Used to Program You.
Hey James,
This is a timely & well thought out description of what’s been transpiring in the independent news community, ever since many jumped on the Trump train, so to speak.
I clicked the link that you provided to the reddit post, read some replies, then went to the homepage of the subreddit, labeled r/conspiracy; where a poster who agreed with you, suggested that you partake in another AMA there, to flesh out & further address your points—I believe this is an excellent idea, & will place the hyperlink to the aforementioned post, below.
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/bth26z/i_believe_we_need_to_have_corbett_report_come_in/
You brought up a good point about people being interested in conspiracies and shocking information just for the mere stimulation it gives their brains. The embodiment of conspira-tainment is Alex Jones. I don’t closely follow his work, but you can tell he is all about the view count, no matter if what he says is true or not. I think he is a good example of what you don’t want to ever become. A sellout.
Its funny because I see more and more people questioning the norm anymore however half of the things they are looking into have no value beyond the initial point.
The latest thing that comes to mind is the recent Creepy Uncle Joe Biden. People will look that up then, as you mention in the video, say “Yea, every politician is awful, welp” and stop there, though the issue is far more complicated.
Their only “solution” becomes to vote…even though it has made no difference..
The “School of Thought”, a non-profit dedicated to spreading critical thinking wrote an article which describes 24 of the key biases that warp our sense of reality, providing useful examples along the way.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/24-cognitive-biases-warping-reality/
Or, to paraphrase Frank Zappa, “You are what you viz and you viz what you are.”
Hi James,
These are serious times which call for a focused strategy. I believe that PDJT has mapped this out with his Plan (‘trust the plan’) as supported by the US MI comms channel for the public called ‘Q’, assisted by others (e.g. @TrueEyeTheSpy). As a major Spygate declas is now imminent, it seems to me that we could all focus on the beast that Trump et al are trying to take down, taking our cues from him/them. I understand that many online voices are wary of Q, because he/it/they potentially take eyeballs off you guys. However, WWG1WGA … there is strength in numbers. The GOOD people of this world need to stand together now. You are certainly one of the best, so I know you do. I would love to hear you talk a little about Trump/Q/etc updated … e.g. what has the guy done re human/child trafficking … I think it’s huge, and I think it’s just getting started. How about covering the declas, next IG report, start of military tribunals, etc? Yes, they are coming. Anyway, you asked, so I provided ;o)
Cheers
P.S. Loved your WW1 series + extras incl. ‘History is written by the Winners’, fantastic stuff. I’m tying it together with Makow’s Illuminati: The Cult that Hijacked the World (i.e. Rothschild = Sabbatean). One heck of a tale, BUT … please don’t cover AH until/unless you’ve read Mein Kampf … v. important book imo. The whole truth about the 20th century is … haaard.
I have never gone looking for graphic material, as it can be very unsettling, and enough of the horrific has found its way to my in box on its own over time. The last warring in Ukraine was particularly egregious. That said I can see some personality types getting hooked on this type of material, violence porn. Those addicted will need their ‘fix.’ For these people desensitization will take place and therefore the need for images of greater shock value will take place. Unless there is some major re-balancing force in these peoples lives they will be negatively affected.
General rabbit holes are endless and no doubt are created in some workshop to keep those addicted to conspiracy theories, often of a more bizarre nature, busy chasing down the latest and for other less obvious data collecting. For the rest of us I think it is enough to identify the latest false event for what it is without having to analyze the script for ‘the gotcha’ moment because, really, we haven’t got anyone. After the 9/11/2001 event, Sandy Hook, events in Europe/Britain/New Zealand and the ever so obvious ‘pissed on clues’ meant to be found (often a passport left at the scene or other leavings or complete inconsistencies with any normal reality by the script writers) is it not enough to identify the latest event and its psychological play for what it is and move on by keeping our collective eyes on the true agenda. Agenda such as the top manager for the BIS recently calling in a speech for an end to cash over the medium term. Medium term to the BIS means one to six years, or 2025. 2025 is becoming more of a date to be reckoned with as more and more agenda gets affixed to this date.
Time is getting short as an inflection point of many a global front coming together seems to be in the offing over the next decade. Remember eye…ball…do not be distracted.
Thank you James.
In my humble opinion:
This is a critical juncture in one’s life. One chooses to be the problem. Or chooses to be the solution.
But it seems usually the choice is to be the problem. Hence the looking at other problems just as entertainment… regardless of the fained repulsion. They are looking at the problem somewhat as looking in the mirror… seeing another problem… seeing themselves vicariously.
People leading their lives as problem solvers spend very little time absorbing the “problem” as stimulation/entertainment but rather as opportunities to find ways to dismantle the problem. Problem solvers look for (and usually find) the weak points in the problem’s support structure so as to reduce the likelihood of such problem’s recurrence.
So, you James, are a problem solver… as clearly demonstrated in this particular video. You’ve shown this fact of humans quite clearly here. Problem people look for problems for the stimulation (re-stimulation?) of themselves.
Problem solvers look only to look for the ways to make it so such problems are less likely to proliferate (usually looking only because they feel somewhat “forced to”).
Thank you James.
Chris D.
I’m very interested in solutions and it’s easy to put forward the problems but very hard to get anything done about them. I could write a very long piece about efforts to get solutions put in place which went nowhere. I watch independent media to try and get to the truth about what is happening and what has happened in the past. All you can do is look at available evidence and use your instinct to decide what makes sense and what doesn’t and yes we do get led astray at times because we all have our biases and things we want or don’t want to believe.
I do think it’s wise to avoid anything too graphic because desensitisation is a danger but a lot of people seem drawn to it. Any post with warnings attached about graphic material I don’t watch but they do always seem to have very high viewing figures. It can be entertaining to indulge in historical conspiracies which are long enough ago not to really affect us just for the sheer pleasure of exploration and I don’t think it matters then if we get dragged down the wrong rabbit hole.
I have a long time friend (about 20 years) who has always shared with me a deep suspicion for politicians, news media, history, and the like. We both agreed on numerous topics like 9/11 conspiracies, false flag events, climate change skepticism, and so on. But he always had some weird beliefs about aliens, ancient giant humans, UFOs, etc. that I simply could not take seriously. I generally ignored those topics and tried to focus on things we agreed on.
The problem is, in recent years he has turned into a mega Flat-earther. When he started sending me videos about it last summer and asking for my opinion, I was completely baffled by the fact that anyone could watch these videos and conclude that this was a real thing. Being that he is a friend of mine, I reluctantly decided I should point out to him what is wrong with some of these monumental claims.
When I dismantled one of the videos and pointed out all of the ways it’s claims were wrong, his response to me was: “that’s an interesting theory”.
Without really trying to discuss it, he moved on to other topics about things like gravity not existing, or how you can see clouds behind the sun, or how the all the airline companies know the earth is flat but are hiding it. He brought up numerous things he’d seen on youtube or heard on podcasts in rapid succession. Some of those were very easy to debunk immediately, but it didn’t matter. He had what seemed like an endless supply of “evidence” that supports this theory.
A really strange thing he said to me after a long while of discussing this, and clearly getting frustrated that I wasn’t convinced by his evidence… He said ” I don’t even care if it’s not true.”….. Wait what? He then started going on a rant about his religious beliefs and how in the end God is going to reveal the truth to all of us so it doesn’t matter if he’s wrong about it right now.
What just happened? I was so confused by his behavior that I didn’t know what to say or do. He seemed almost lethargic and tired at this point so I told him my goal as his friend is to help him sort out any bad arguments so he can be closer to finding the truth. He seemed to appreciate that and I advised him he should put his own theories to the same level of scrutiny that he does with those that he disagrees with.
The very sad thing about this is that even after I had this conversation with him last year, he has continued his relentless consumption of Flat-earth theory and it seems, unfortunately, that he is even more aggressive in social situations to bring it up to other people – even when I’m present.
I guess this is what it looks like when someone falls down a rabbit hole for at least 2 decades. It’s hideous.
True enough if given the given.
Massive if.
I think this will not be. Not pessimistic, just thinking not gonna happen.
“… that, given the right information, a good balance between objective and subjective can….even will eventually prevail”
Thoughtful reply inanna… especially the use of “irresponsible” as opposed to the emotional “discusting”. I get it.
Your reply was easy to read. Thanks.
You’ve noted a very real and valid point, James. Shock-info is typically fabricated along the click bait lines to entice searchers to follow whatever sensationalism can be whipped up about whatever subject is on the slab that day. It is difficult to find alternative, thoughtful information from those who are dedicated to dissecting the MS lie machine with intelligence but do not bait the searcher. There are hundreds of shock sites that are both obvious and not so obvious. As you know, they produce links that go on forever.
Searchers for truth are forced to develop and exercise something which is in short supply these days–wisdom. We all must look for real information without falling into the click-baiters’ shock trap–that hole in the sidewalk. Personally, I can say that in the beginning of my search, this was no small feat. With the passage of time many seekers learn to identify and avoid typical shock subjects.
I would think (and hope) there are thousands of Newbies awakening and leaving Normieville to become truth seekers each day. As travelers through lies they must make their own way over the “shock valley of the shadow of death” so-to-speak in their transition to become. They must experience the death of the old self. It comes with a price–the death of the protective bubble around them. These seekers experience large obstacles–one of them is shock info’s misdirection and possible addiction. Some stumble, finding themselves in the dark ditch of that addiction for a time. During their journey seeker babes can become quite annoying but some do finally make it across. And good for them.
James, you are doing a momentous job of assisting these seekers through the stages of their development which leads to wisdom. This video helped them. Good work.
I don’t know anything about any particular searches like are referred to in that post. But I have gone down some deep dark rabbit holes when studying different topics. For instance, when I was studying the scandal surrounding Boys Town and Larry King with the abduction and abuse of boys. That research lead to depths of depravity that I have not been able to go back to. I had to shut off several videos I tried to show people because I just couldn’t handle going into that darkness again. Not to say I wouldn’t if I felt there was more there to learn. So, for me, I don’t see a need to avoid anything in an attempt to understand truth. I believe people who are actually searching for truth will use the information in that manner and move on. If some other people have an issue that causes them to use this information in a way akin to porn then the problem lies with them. They need to address why they are getting off on someone else’s suffering. It comes down to self evaluation and understanding your purpose in looking at this stuff that can be immensely dark at times. To me, the purpose is to see the horror and understand the solutions. That might point to your statistics on who watches the solution videos. Maybe most people are just getting off on this stuff and much fewer are trying to understand so they can do something about it. Even if it’s just for their own protection. Which is about all we can do about in most cases. For me that’s enough. Knowing the truth to protect myself and my family. Anything else is a bonus.
I think there is a sense of not entirely addiction to alternative media, but, the shifting eye of focus towards it.
For example; someone walks into your room with a chocolate cake. Most people know that the chocolate cake tastes good though is bad for them. When your sitting in the room with the chocolate cake, you focus more than you usually would on what your consuming because your aware the cake is present.
In a sense this is my take on alternative verses mainstream media. I know the MSM is there, and I know it has millions of eyes on it. It’s very easy with entanglement to want to “be a part” of the general consensus on issues. To want to “eat that cake” even though you know its bad for you.
In doing this, it becomes very easy to over consume those apples sitting next to you whilst your trying to avoid the cake. You may normally eat 2 apples, but instead you end up eating 6 because you know so many other people are gorging to death on the cake and your trying your hardest to avoid that entanglement within the species. It affects you, what others do. Whether we approve or not, parasympathetic nervous system and entanglement does exist. Whether its just sitting down for a meal with a bunch of friends and being able to have a normal discussion about the taste of the cake. Or the example of when they yawn, you yawn in terms of the parasympathic’ness within the species. Its appealing, to be “one of us”. But more than appealing, sometimes its a physical response to survive…
To maintain that separation involves having an “educatorial” level of knowledge about apples, not just a few bites, you need to have eaten half a dozen to understand it well enough to explain it at the dinner table. So you end up consuming more, and there isnt a line to draw. Between “how much” you need to know to satisfy their curiousity, as the MSM will have avoided all information on it. Or, to quell the arguments that may ensue at telling them that in this chosen topic their chocolate cake has made them fat and lazy. I guess in continuing the example, the convo might be… how much is too much MSM? IS there too much conspiratorial knowledge acquisition, which leads you too far down the rabbit hole as discussed in the story?
I dunno… its an interesting thought.