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FROM 2014: As supposedly “progressive” outlets once again scramble to throw their support behind the billionaire oligarchs and NGOs that have helped to destabilize Ukraine, and as neocons unite with neoliberals in their agenda to carve up the country for Western interests, it remains to be seen what genuine alternative outlets will stand up against this blatant interference and stand up for the principle that it is up to the Ukrainian people, and no one else, to decide what happens in their country.
FLASHBACK SHOW NOTES:
Episode 416 – SHOCKING Document Reveals Trudeau’s Putin’s REAL Plan!
The Ukraine Crisis: What You Need to Know
Foreign Intervention and the Ukraine Crisis (original post)
Corbett Report 2014 Data Archive (USB Flash Drive)
TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES:
by James Corbett
GRTV.ca
March 5, 2014
As the Ukrainian crisis continues to unfold, the foreign funding and backing for the current destabilization becomes apparent. Now, geopolitical analysts across the board analyze the roots of the situation and whether this conflict is sewing the seeds of the next major war. This is the GRTV Backgrounder on Global Research TV.
In late 2004, protests erupted after Viktor Yanukovych won the 2004 Ukrainian Presidential election, with protestors claiming that the vote had been rigged. The protests forced a revote, in which Yanukovych’s rival, Viktor Yuschenko, was elected president. This movement, dubbed the Orange Revolution for the orange ribbons and clothing sported by its members, was one of a series of so-called “colour revolutions” which swept the former Soviet Republics in the last decade.
As The Guardian noted at the time of the protests:
“[. . .] the campaign [the Orange Revolution] is an American creation, a sophisticated and brilliantly conceived exercise in western branding and mass marketing that, in four countries in four years, has been used to try to salvage rigged elections and topple unsavoury regimes. [. . .] The Democratic party’s National Democratic Institute, the Republican party’s International Republican Institute, the US state department and USAid are the main agencies involved in these grassroots campaigns.”
So it is not without reason that seasoned political observers looked for outside connections to the recent protests in Ukraine that has, in an almost exact repeat of the 2004 protests, sought to overthrow the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych in order to install Viktor Yuschenko’s political allies. Those connections have not been difficult to find.
CNN ANCHOR: We’re talking about Victoria Nuland, the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, assistant secretary. This is about a phone call she was having with the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Jeff Pyatt. And I got to say, for a diplomatic reporter like me, it was a fascinating conversation.
VICTORIA NULAND: He’s now gotten both Sary and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Sary could come in Monday or Tuesday.
JEFF PYATT: OK.
NULAND: So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the U.N. Help glue it. And, you know, f*** the EU.
Audio of Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland apparently dictating who the US wanted “in” and “out” of the supposedly grassroots-supported interim government only came as a surprise to those who did not believe Washington or its allies in the Washington Consensus were actively involved with the ongoing protests in the country. As did the revelation of her admission last December that the US had already pumped $5 billion into the funding of the Ukrainian opposition.
NULAND: Since Ukraine’s independence in 1991, the United States has supported Ukrainians as they build democratic skills and institutions, as they promote civic participation and good governance, all of which are preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations. We’ve invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic Ukraine.
SOURCE: Victoria Nuland’s [sic] Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine”
As did the appearance of confirmed terrorist supporter John McCain at a rally with the leader of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi Svoboda party.
As did the appointment of a central banker as the interim Prime Minister and his immediate announcement that the country was in talks with the US, EU, and IMF for emergency loans.
CCTV ANCHOR: Ukraine’s acting prime minister, Asni Yatsenyuk, said on Friday he is determined to comply with conditions set by the International Monetary Fund in exchange for loans. An IMF mission is due in Kiev next week for talks with Ukraine’s de facto leaders. We have said the heavily indebted country needs at least 35 billion US dollars to stave off bankruptcy.
SOURCE: Ukraine’s acting PM vows to comply with IMF conditions
As did the appearance of a slick new viral propaganda video in English promoting the supposedly grassroots uprising which was immediately exposed as finding its “inspiration” in Council on Foreign Relations member Larry Diamond, who has worked closely with the same NED and USAid that were linked to the 2004 Orange Revolution.
YULIA MARUSHEVSKA: And now I ask you to build this freedom in our country. You can help us only by telling this story to your friends, only by sharing this video. Please share it. Speak to your friends, speak to your family, speak to your government, and show that you support us.
SOURCE: I Am a Ukrainian
In the latest startling revelation, Pando.com has published documents implicating the Omidyar Network in the funding of the current Ukrainian protest movement. The Omidyar Network is the NGO of billionaire Ebay co-founder Pierre Omidyar, who recently set up First Look Media as an outlet for (among others) Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras to selectively publish some of the Snowden document archive, 99% of which continues to be withheld from the public.
As geopolitical analysts from across the board explain, the Ukrainian coup has been deliberately provoked by outside agents to promote a combination of US, EU, NATO and IMF interests.
F. WILLIAM ENGDAHL: We have the publication on YouTube of the extraordinary open telephone discussion between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the ambassador in Kiev, her ambassador, Pyatt. And this was a phone call made while she was in Kiev in early February, where she literally talked person by person who the US, who Washington, who Victoria Nuland and her faction anyway, were going to place in the government. And they said, for example, Klitschko, I want on the outside and the Svoboda, this neo-Nazi right-wing party that got a huge amount of votes in the last election. I want them on the outside, and let’s have Yulia Tymoshenko’s man on the inside as prime minister and so forth, because he has more international credibility.
And then she, in the video, this famous statement of hers with eloquent English, she said, fuck the EU, they want Klitschko in there, and so forth. So it became very clear this was a direct US State Department coup d’etat instrumentalizing to the person who they were going to bring in to oust a democratically elected in an election, which Western election monitors claim was relatively fraud-free.
So Yanukovych, because people were fed up with the previous government of Yushchenko, this was the pro-NATO government. They voted Yanukovych because they felt maybe they would get a little bit better situation under him. This was an elected government. The US comes in and says, we don’t like what you do, so we’re going to change you by essentially our color revolution part two.
SOURCE: Interview 830 – William Engdahl Exposes the Western Agenda in Ukraine
MICHEL CHOSSUDOVSKY: We’re dealing with a situation whereby foreign countries are now, well, we know that this is regime change. We know it. But for an intergovernmental organization such as the World Bank or the IMF to take a stance on regime change is ultimately, you know, it’s another set of concepts. But it’s not something which doesn’t have precedent.
And the IMF says we like a particular president. We don’t like that particular president. And they will also put barriers, for instance, on any type of social legislation which might emerge, such as increasing the minimum wage, such as spending more on hospitals and schools. And I mean, I’ve seen this in numerous countries. So that what is likely to emerge if a neo-Nazi government or a neo-Nazi coalition government is formed is, in fact, the reinforcement, ironically, of the neoliberal shock treatment agenda for the Ukraine.
Perhaps more worrying than the interference itself are its potential implications. As Russia’s every move is now being scrutinized for a possible military response to the ongoing crisis, the specter of a larger military operation now hangs over Eastern Europe. Part of the decade-long encirclement of Russia by NATO and deliberate provocations on Russia’s doorstep, this process of brinksmanship now threatens to plunge the region into a war the consequences of which cannot be foreseen, let alone contained.
PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS: We’re talking about, as you said, an unfolding situation and what I’m discussing is the risk. And what we see is the carelessness and recklessness of Washington in pushing these risks. There’s no reason for this. What does it matter if Ukraine is in the EU or not? I mean, how insane is it to expect to have American missile bases in Ukraine?
So regardless of the outcome, even if we get the best possible outcome, we still have the situation where Washington has created extremely reckless events that are full of risk for the entire world. The entire world.
So how can you have such a dangerous, reckless, careless government running around as a superpower? I mean, the United States is a threat to life on Earth. That’s what we are facing here.
Now, these risks may never develop. Putin may calm them down, keep everything on a diplomatic level. That’s entirely possible. He’s inclined that way. He has these skills. They will resort to force only as a last resort when they are strategically threatened. But the United States is the one who brings these extreme reckless risks to the world. And when is the world going to recognize that and disassociate and stop enabling this extreme recklessness that emanates from Washington? It is a danger to all life on Earth. And it’s enabled by the EU, NATO.
What do you need NATO for? NATO was there to stop the Red Army from overrunning Europe. The Red Army disappeared 23 years ago. Well, why is NATO being expanded all over the world? They’re even talking to Japan about it.
So this kind of recklessness is what is the danger. It’s a far greater danger than the right-wing elements in Western Ukraine. And that’s what the world has got to realize and come to grips with. And the Americans themselves have got to realize that this is an act of insanity to take a direct strategic threat to a major military power. This is insane.
SOURCE: Interview 829 – Paul Craig Roberts Connects the Dots on the Ukrainian Revolution
As supposedly “progressive” outlets once again scramble to throw their support behind the billionaire oligarchs and NGOs that have helped to destabilize the country, and as neocons unite with neoliberals in their agenda to carve up Ukraine for Western interests, it remains to be seen what genuine alternative outlets will stand up against this blatant interference and stand up for the principle that it is up to the Ukrainian people, and no one else, to decide what happens in their country.
Movies used to reflect more truths then fantasy about reality. The controllers reach is felt everywhere. Sending BILLIONS of dollars to other nations when our national profile is in disgrace…infrastructure, border, toxic food and water, educational system propaganda, corporate health care, etc.
At the end of the 1975 movie 3 Days of the Condor, the protagonist, Condor (Robert Redford) is in front of the New York Times building talking with the CIA antagonist, Higgins (Cliff Robertson,) Higgins is answering Condor’s question “Are we planning on going to war in the Middle East?”
Higgins: It’s simple economics. Today it’s oil right? In 10 or 15 years, food, plutonium, and maybe even sooner. What do you think the people are going to want us to do then?
Condor: Ask them.
Higgins: Not now, then. Ask them when they are running out. Ask them when there’s no heat in their homes and they are cold. Ask them when their engines stop. Ask them when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. Want to know something? They won’t want su to ask them. They’ll just want us to get it for them.
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In 1970, Henry Kissinger said:
“Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control people.”
I recall the movie “The Condor” and it was indeed propaganda (although well done with lots of real life scenarios).
Anyway, it sets a Narrative for rationalizing the doing of evil in the world (The Ends, Justifies the Means).
This is what I think John Perkins is referring to as a “Death Economy” in his book “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” 3rd Edition 2023. In the last part of his book he proposes how to turn this into a “life Economy”.
In the Death Economy a few people get rich while extracting Natural Resources from countries whose governments can be corrupted, while the people there experience massive pollution and environmental devastation.
In a Life Economy everybody wins. It’s kind of like the Libertarian idea on a grander scale where everything is done though voluntary exchanges. In other words, people world wide have had enough of psychopaths running the show top down and are seeing through the deceptions.
The Oligarchs are running out of tricks, so they will have to let of of their old ways.
Atributed to Niccolò Machiavelli but never said, “the ends justify the means,”
Machivelli said things like:
“For although the act condemns the doer, the end may justify him…”
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>>“Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” 3rd Edition 2023>>
Never read it.
>>”The Oligarchs are running out of tricks…”>
That is pretty optimistic. They are sociopathic/narcissistic and have been doing this a long time.
World wide most all are Sabatean Frankist/Zionists. Israel is a prime example of how they took over the land of the natural Semites, the Palestinians, and have one of those states of mind if they are going to be taken over they will blow everyone up.
The CCP has had a 45 point plan for taking over the US in the works for well over 60 years.
The Technetronic agenda put out by Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book:
Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era (written 50 years ago)
“ “The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values”
Those are just a couple of the agenda with many more using WHO, The UN, Banking, etc. for the eventual take down of all republics and part of the planned reduction of the population under 24/7 track, trace, and data basing living in 5G SMART cities, no private vehicles, no access to the country side, most living on the Government dole and forced to obey any laws or regulations put out by the Government to maintain the dole.
Those of us who come here are in the minority. Most under 40 are more concerned with getting laid, driving whatever is cool, getting drunk, and so forth. Many may talk keyboard commando nonsense or Rambo fantasy, but those of us who have served know when the fecal matter hits the fan they will have no clue or guts and will be willing with compliance.
IMO the only two things one can do is act/organize locally with people you know; and be prepared with guns, food, and a bug out plan if one is young enough to hit the road. This isn’t some movie, it is the real deal, just look at what the government and corporations are doing.
CAUGHT IN THE DREAM (song)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/VgucD740mQtR/
A cording to John Perkins, China has developed what he calls the 3rd Wave of Economic Hit Men. He says that they have learned the ways of American Economic Hit Men and have updated their strategies.
Anyway, whether it be done by the USA or China, these are all Death Economy strategies that are destroying the planet for all.
I think the Oligarch’s goal is as I read it on the Georgia Guild Stones (before they were destroyed). They would like to keep the population of the planet below 500 million, and of coarse, they want to decide who those 500 million will be.
John Perkin’s is 79 now, yet he travels the world lecturing on how to turn the Death Economy into a Life Economy. I think he is worth listening to.
>>A cording to John Perkins, China has developed what he calls the 3rd Wave of Economic Hit Men.>>
Living far off the grid for decades, I intentionally have no retention of pop or alt culture idioms and phraseology from no TV for 50+ years till 2016.
So no emotional connection to favorite commercials, sit-coms, no political party identification, etc. and avoiding “popular” authors, etc.
Never read comic books or have favorite super heroes. Didn’t hang around Plato’s Cave very long.
>>I think the Oligarch’s goal is…>>
I have posted my harvested truth/facts about the controller’s goals/agendas here (above) and elsewhere, sing about it, and discuss it in my essays for years now long b4 the Internet. I don’t “alt speak.”
I chose not to be the hippest con in jail but rather the escapee who runs and thinks free.
>>I think he is worth listening to.>>
I think I am worth listening to. The facts will never change and why I keep repeating them.
Nothing personal here, read and do and believe what you want.
From the late, brilliant John Trudel. I recorded him at a pre 1980 Long Walk For Survival event, from a documentary I made for KPFA Pacifica Radio in Berkeley.
JOHN TRUDEL MAY 1980 (speech)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gT1muR1A1KAP/
I read the book “3 Days…” was based on. It was, “Six Days of the Condor”. The hero finds evidence that the CIA is smuggling drugs into the US and to cover it up the CIA decides it’s quicker, less messy to kill everyone at the CIA intel station, to stop an investigation.
Day one of the shoot, The Director of the CIA showed up and sat next to Redford all day. Did he have “input”? They changed the story to something less close to the truth. The irony is the truth (just as Snowden worried) won’t wake up the majority who are “pretending to be asleep”, i.e., those who practice “willful ignorance”, i.e., those who are crippled by what Larken Rose calls, “The Most Dangerous Superstition”.
It is one of my fav xmas films. Thanks for the summary of the book, I knew its title only.
The late Sydney Pollack pushed the envelope on a few of his pics…Condor, Eyes Wide Shut, The Firm, etc. plus acted in some. The 60’s and 70’s had some excellent stuff…The Hospital, Network, etc.
“…less close to the truth.” is far better then the cartoonification of the industry with all the super hero nonsense, etc. But then that theme of waiting for a hero to save them is the basis for religions as well as politics, etc.
IT IS THE HIDDEN HAND (song)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4aEitfs3HsVM/?list=notifications&randomize=false
2014 was a long time ago and I had forgotten most of what was in that episode which is so relevant to what is going on in Ukraine today.
I did watch the entire Tucker Interview with Putin the day it was released and as I see it the Oligarchs want Putin out of power because they cannot control him. Corporate Media in the USA has called Tucker everything in the book in their propaganda campaign to assassinate his character, but he knows how to fight back.
Below is a link to a follow-up Interview Tucker did in Dubai;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2xa7hHMUho
Indeed, I was surprised to find it on Youtube. Perhaps the Law suits against the Biden Administration for using Internet Social Media companies as tools for censorship are having a positive effect on them. (CoVID-19 Scam may not be all bad if it provokes a reaction that prevents this sort of thing from happening in the near future.)
Note also that the $95 Billion Foreign Aid package, ($60 Billion to Ukraine and about $20 Billion to Israel), passed by the U.S. Senate (Millionaires Club mostly due to bribe money), has been suspended by the U.S Congress because of pressure put on them by real people with the help of groups like Ron Paul’s “Campaign for Liberty” and “Peace and Prosperity”. Perhaps Tuckers Interview with Putin also had an effect on Congress, even if the bought off Senate was not effect by it.
Last but not least, I think that the Executive branch of the U.S. Government has been totally taken over by Oligarchs who are pushing a new world order controlled by them. Indeed they have been buying off Senators and Congress people for a long time, however since the Events of 9/11/01, lies and deception have ruled. With any luck the evil bastards are playing their last cards and they will fall faster than the USSR did in 1991.
Below is a better link to Tucker Carlson’s follow-up interview in Dubai. The actual interview is only about 25 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzlt1VVBcg8
“Oligarchs want Putin out of power because they cannot control him”
I’m curious why you think that. To me it feels like the complete opposite. He brought in the same covid tyranny in lock step with the globalists agenda. Mask, social distancing and lock downs.. check. The same exact jabs as the rest of the world shoved down the throats of their people.. check. Russians are put in prison for speaking out, no freedom of speech there. From what i understand they’re working on implementing the same digital currency. And he invaded a neighboring country which pushes the world closer towards WWIII which seems to exactly align with what the globalist ‘oligarchs’ would want.
My family seem to have the same bizarre idea as you and when I asked them what has Putin done thats good for the Russian people the only thing they can come up with is, he’s against the tranny/gay crap. Wow, there you have it. He doesn’t like gays, case closed.
As for Tucker carlson if you think that guy isn’t a part of the establishment idk how much more obvious something can be. He’s literally at the top of every social media feed all while people who really are speaking truth to power, Ryan Christian, Richard Grove, James Corbett, they’re completely censored and shadow banned basically out of existence on the same platforms (and now more than ever).
I really think Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin would unveil as much truth as someone like Anderson Cooper interviewing Joe Biden. These people are where they are because they go along. You don’t get to interview world leaders and get invited to ‘world summits’ unless you’re in the club. I think Tuckers words about being denied into the CIA sum it up well.. “…they needed journalists”.
Tucker, like Stossel, is not a voluntarist, but he isn’t an authoritarian/collectivist either. He’s growing, politically. As for “no one” getting invited in, we are dealing with a loose confederation of power mongers who do a lot of it fighting, and make mistakes, mismanage the propaganda, occasionally. Look at what I call, “The Davous Debacle”, with Javier Melei.
I’m not sure why you obfuscate for a group billionaire psychopaths who are actively trying to cull off a huge portion of the worlds population but considering they’ve spent at least the last 100+ years acquiring more wealth than all the rest of the world combined and have successfully infiltrated every government on earth and then carried out a coordinated psyop on the entire worlds population effectively locking everyone down in their homes and subsequently getting the majority of people to voluntarily be injected with toxic poison.. I don’t really see evidence for the ‘mismanagement’ and ‘mistakes’ you’re talking about. Were you in a cave for the entire last 4 years?
As for tucker, just look at his and his fathers shaddy connections to US intelligence communities. Maybe the focus groups that surround him do a good job of making it appear hes ‘growing politically’. I think the truth is likey very different.
Hi James and Commentariat,
I read the work of Sasha Latypova on substack. What follows is the Time Line I created on the Ukraine Russia SMO. One more thing the destruction of Nord Stream serves US/NATO interests.
Good Work Sasha,
> My previous article pointing to these trends:
As has the UnzReview.com for many years now.
> Indeed, in the wake of the Russian invasion of Ukraine…
I wish to challenge the statement by all Western Financial, Military and Energy groups who claim Russia is the aggressor. (Amazing to me is RFK Jr. has said the same thing)
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I have compiled a timeline of events leading to the SMO by Russia . Keeping in mind that I grew up in the Cuban Missile Crises, I was deeply puzzled by the US/NATO response to Russia’s legitimate concerns with the safety of it’s people from the encroaching NATO block. What is going on? So I dug. This only one item in the time line leading to the SMO
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*A time line for the current Ukraine and SMO of Russia.*
1) Gas some oil found off the Black Sea coast of Ukraine, Jul 19, 2013
2) Euromaidan November 21, 2013 – 23 February 2014
So the coup starts 6 months after finding Gas. The coup puts Zelensky etal in power. Zelensky starts borrowing money, and the West starts building up Ukraine’s military so it can take back the republics of Lugansk Donetsk and Crimea. These republics became independent of Ukraine as a result of the EU/Zelensky coup.
Since the Russian SMO what collateral does the Ukraine have to borrow so much from the IMF? Why did the IMF loan any money to the already deeply in debt Ukraine? Why is the US so heavily invested in support of the Ukraine? Why is the EU shooting itself in the foot regarding energy? None of this made any sense to me.
Unless the EU was told by US and Ukraine that all the gas they would ever need is in the gas field off the Ukraine coast. Then it makes some kind of sense what is happening. Support Ukraine and make it an EU member after defeating Russia and the gas is the EUs. Also helps explain why the US is all dug in and NATO/EU too as well as UK in defeating Russia. Without the pipe dream of Ukrainian Gas none of this makes any sense to me. Links follow.
July 2013 https://www.offshore-mag.com/drilling-completion/article/16791765/ukraine-black-sea-gas-discovery-reported
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I way I see it the Bush’s are evil players and there would be no strongman Putin ruling Russia had Bush and his cronies not gone into Russia and capitalized on every opportunity after the fall of the USSR in 1991.
A few years later Bush Sr became president and invaded Iraq so his cronies could rape their assets.
Then in 2001, Bush Jr. takes the thrown and we get the Events of 9/11/01 and invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq again and a new military base in Iraq to secure the new takings for the corporate Empire.
After Obama was implanted as chief pawn for the Oligarchs, Libya and a host of other countries were destroyed for various reasons. It occurred to me as the U.S. military was bombing these targets that they were creating 10’s of millions, if not hundreds of millions, of refugees. It seems like the people making the decisions inside the Pentagon were deliberately setting the USA up for, the now, on going boarder invasion.
Perhaps there are students of Brzezinski at the Pentagon that think Russia will fall like the USSR did because of it’s War in Afghanistan, but I think the Oligarchs are playing the War in Ukraine to Crash the American Government and the $95 Billion Aid Bill that passed the Senate last week could do the trick.
The bottom line is that the Oligarchs want Russia to fall into their hands and are likely promising cheap oil for all of Europe once this happens. And even if it doesn’t happen that way, then they can collect the spoils of whats left of the USA.
As usual the Bankers win either way. It’s like playing a game of “RISK” for them.
Good day TruthSeeker
> Bush and his cronies not gone into Russia and capitalized on every opportunity after the fall of the USSR in 1991.
REPLY: True. You may wish to look at this book as it goes into some depth on the people behind the effort to loot Russia.
https://archive.org/details/TheKillingOfWilliamBrowderPrintLayout6x91
> but I think the Oligarchs are playing the War in Ukraine to Crash the American Government
REPLY: a valid observation. What do you think of the find of Gas and Oil off the then Ukraine Coast on the Black Sea as a large motivation for the US to get involved in the Ukraine. Within 6 months of the Gas and Oil find, the US was hip deep in Ukraine.
For me at least, the Oil and Gas find explains the reason the US/NATO sabotage of Nord Stream and knee capping Germany.
Same think is happening right now with Gaza. Israel and the US are salivating at having access to all that gas and oil, on the Mediterranean coast of Gaza.
All the biggest, so-called “great” empires, and the other smaller ones, have collapsed from the inside, because they destroy us and themselves with their coercive politics.
Russia was never a global threat, but the US Empire might leave a “nuke winter” when it goes.
Will we, once the freest people, overcome our public school indoctrination of what Larken Rose calls, “The Most Dangerous Superstition”, and save the planet/ourselves?
Good day Voluntaryist,
> Will we, once the freest people, overcome our public school indoctrination of what Larken Rose calls, “The Most Dangerous Superstition”, and save the planet/ourselves?
REPLY: That is a tough call. People are captured by their cell phones, computers, TVs. They are largely malnourished and polluted (like our planet). They are not unlike the food they eat CAFOs, (Confined Animal Feeding Operations).
So not much hope. I do have a lot of hope and engagement with the microbiome. Bacteria are why there is life on Planet Earth. Larger animals and plants have come and gone but they abide. 3+ billion years of making the Earth habitable.
While humans may vanish, Gaia, microbiome will survive.
@Vm
Wow, I was not expecting your comment to go there. I’m actually shopping for a microscope at the moment to try and study and learn more about the microbiome. I find it incredibly fascinating. Definitely couldn’t agree more. 👍
Hi JCh129,
From my perspective the most important resource is traditional ways of using fermented foods. The Asian peoples have a very long and ancient symbiotic relationship with gut bacteria that support your health of body, emotions and mind.
So try to find older eastern european or asian people that have a strong connection to fermented foods. Learn from them.
best
“While humans may vanish,…microbiome will survive.”?? How?
Earth will die and with it all life. It could be anytime, but it will happen, eventually.
If earth life escapes, it will be if humanity escapes our “womb”. Since we carry many other life forms that are necessary for our survival, logically we will save them as we colonize our solar system, exoplanets.
Hi Voluntaryist,
Thanks for your reply…
> How?
The Earth is habitable because of the microcosmos. 3+ billion years of terra forming the Earth. Please review the work of Dr. Lynn Margulis colaborator with James Lovelock who put forward the Gaia Hypothosis now accepted as theory.
Humans are not that bright. After studying bacteria cracking the H2O molecule at room temperature for a net energy gain, we still can’t do it. That after 30 years or more of study.
We can crack the H20 molecule true. But the energy needed to do that is more than released when the molecule is cracked.
We are really slow.
“…not that bright.”?? What other species thinks? What other species are capable of colonizing space before the sun burns out, going nova?
Do other species act after research, choose, fail, try again, after thought?
“…a Gaia Hypothesis now accepted as theory.”??
Theories are speculation, sometimes based on imagination, not fact, not experimentation.
Irrational beliefs, i.e., superstitions, are supported by most people, with fatal consequences. Only reason, the uniquely human attribute, is responsible for our survival.
@Voluntaryist,
“..as we colonize our solar system”
Life has evolved and adapted for hundreds of millions of years to the exact conditions of our planet. Life cannot exist in the harsh conditions of the vacuum of space for even a short time and there’s no where else in our solar system that would even be close to being habitable anyways. When you account for how far even the closest stars are it becomes pretty evident we aren’t going to any other solar systems either. Space travel is only possible in a Hollywood basement.
Also I believe you’re confusing hypothesis with theory. Theories actually are formed from experiment and empirical data.
Furthermore the human elitist view that we’re the only species who ‘thinks’ is incredibly short sided. There’s a lot of evidence that many creatures communicate and can rationalize to some degree. There is even evidence to suggest plants may communicate and therefore ‘think’ on some level. Humans tend to correlate intelligence with building factories and driving cars and using computers but in my oppinion these are terrible metrics to base anything on. The ecosystem we’re dependent upon is incredibly complex and in my opponion very intelligent. I would honestly suggest disconnecting from technology and spending some quiet time out in nature. You may be humbled by what you find.
Wm,
I know that the control of Energy (Oil) is/was central to “The New American Century” Think Tank headed by Dick Cheney back in 2000, however I see mass extinction being played out which makes the control of Oil seem like a lesser issue now than it was.
Whether the Oligarchs actually believe that they can heal the planet by massive depopulation, or they are simply afraid of what is in store for them should the masses figure out that they are being killed off, I think that the Oligarchs are focused on bigger issues than Oil. After all, they will have plenty for themselves.
The US Government is at war with the people of America. It has been taken over from within. Bombing the hell out of all those counties in the Middle East and causing all those refuges was a way to destabilize Europe. Taunting War with Russia and attempting to bring Ukraine into NATO when they promised NATO would not be extended is what caused Ukraine to be invaded. My sources have said that Russians living in Ukraine were being persecuted and asked for Russian help. Add the dozen or so Bio-weapons labs that the US Government set up on the Russian boarder, and one could say that Putin was pushed to the limit.
Now that they have got the USA on the brink of Nuclear War with Russia posing as an ample distraction, and opened the boarder to millions of unknowns, it is about time to pull the plug of the financial system whereby the Bankers take ownership of nearly all Stocks and Bonds as well as anything that has a Lean or mortgage on it.
Yep, the time is near when you will own nothing and the Bankers will be happy. That is, unless we can beat them to the punch somehow.
These Corbett Report Flashbacks are historic in themselves.
One example is that they often capture historic interviews of people during the era.
This helps to pass things on to future generations.
Agreed.
This was very educational, thanks James.
These illuminating explorations into the perpetually circular, systemically corrupt and bankster dominated Statism regimes of modern times reaffirms my position on how degenerative involuntary governance structures are.
Hi again TruthSeeker,
Thanks for replying to the Gas, Oil question.
>however I see mass extinction being played out which makes the control of Oil seem like a lesser issue now than it was.
REPLY: Mass extinction has always been a thing. Certainly since the 1950s thru 1970s up to the fall of the USSR. It was when I was a major concern in grammar school in the late 1950s and we practiced surviving nuclear holocaust by getting under our desks.
It was also very much in the minds of the youth of the 1960s and 1970s as humanity could destroy itself by the way humans polluted the Earth. The Environmental movement took shape then.
> I think that the Oligarchs are focused on bigger issues than Oil. After all, they will have plenty for themselves.
REPLY: Oil etc has never been an issue for the Oligarchs. Creating wars in the Middle East to drive up the price of Oil and shift even more wealth into their pockets and to derail the environmental movement was of considerable importance and was accomplished in the 1970s.
> The US Government is at war with the people of America. It has been taken over from within.
REPLY: That has been true for a good while now. Katherine Watt (paralegal) has traced this trend through changes in law back to the beginning of the 1900s.
> Bombing the hell out of all those counties in the Middle East and causing all those refuges was a way to destabilize Europe.
REPLY: Another way to look at it is to dilute the gene pool of Europe. If the gene pool of all the peoples of the world can be diluted. Then the Zionist of the Jewish race who work hard to protect it’s racial purity has another point to claim as a reason for their superiority.
> My sources have said that Russians living in Ukraine were being persecuted and asked for Russian help. Add the dozen or so Bio-weapons labs that the US Government set up on the Russian boarder, and one could say that Putin was pushed to the limit.
REPLY: You may want to look at this location in the Corbett thread:
Wm on 02/18/2024 at 12:43 pm
> Yep, the time is near when you will own nothing and the Bankers will be happy. That is, unless we can beat them to the punch somehow.
REPLY: Actually the Earth is not run by bankers. Those who actually control the Earth have been here far longer. 3+ billion years or more longer. They are the Bacteria and they have made the Earth habitable.
They have survived every holocaust the Earth has been through massive Astroids, volcanos, climate change cycles. They have survived it all and at the same time Terra formed it so that life can live in it’s many forms.
They can split the H20 molecule at room temperature. Something humans cannot do even after studying how bacteria do it. We still cannot.
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I may not survive. Humanity may not survive. But James Lovelock and Lynn Margulis (both worked with NASA) had no doubt that the microcosmos would survive. The Gaia Theory was James Lovelock’s and Dr. Lynn Margulis provided the biological science to support it. More here: https://www.britannica.com/science/climate-meteorology/The-Gaia-hypothesis
But I own books written by authors of the Gaia Theory (James Lovelock and Dr. Lynn Margulis are both deceased now).
Over the last 3+ billion years species come and go, the bacteria abide.
The thing is that Putin could have more productively talk on the events that have taken place since 2014. In fact he could have gone back to the collapse of the USSR and on why Sevastopol base and Crimea started the whole current drama. This from a 2D chess perspective of course. He could have completely obliterated ‘the west’ with actually valid arguments… but instead, Putin went on a historic rambling that 1) was irrelevant to the current situation, and 2) it was incomplete, and particularly missing the historic elements that could actually be supportive of the Russian perspective in the conflict.
I’ve seen Putin talk and he can be really good, but this time he sounded like an amateur politician (from a 2D chess world that is).