A listener writes in to ask when, if and how voluntaryists and the liberty minded should engage with representatives of the state. James recruits the Independent Media Alliance panel (and some special guests) to respond.
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Panel guests:
James Corbett of corbettreport.com
Ryan Cristian of TheLastAmericanVagabond.com
Derrick Broze of TheConsciousResistance.com
Steve Poikonen of AM Wakeup
Hakeem Anwar of AbovePhone.com
Kit Knightly of Off-Guardian.org
Ernest Hancock of FreedomsPhoenix.com
Etienne de La Boetie2 of TheArtOfLiberty.org
Larken Rose of TheRoseChannel.com
Jason Bermas of X
Etienne de la Boetie2 here… I enjoyed getting to participate in this important discussion! In the episode I mentioned our recent investigation into the total cost of fractional reserve banking (Inflation + Cantillon Effect + Compound Trap) PLUS Federal, State and Local Taxes PLUS Social Security underpayments (Cause the organized crime “government” is lying about the actual inflation rate so they don’t have to pay Cost Of Living Adjustments (COLAs) was $2.7 million over a 40 year career & 20 year retirement for the average worker ($60K Salary). I misspoke when I said it scales to many millions more for the average worker. I MEANT to say: Higher Earners! The total theft for someone making $120K a year is over $5M and the total for someone making $250K a year is over $10M. Get all the details and find the total that will be stolen from you by income level at: https://open.substack.com/pub/artofliberty/p/the-greatest-theft-in-human-history
It must have required a gargantuan effort to calculate this figure. Kudos. Have you calculated at which point does theft take a plunge? I’m confident big earners pay far far less.
I guess one positive thing that can be said about this is that theft scales with income in an approximately linear fashion.
They lose less as a percentage from SS underpayment because the benefits are capped, they need to borrow less so they lose less from the Compound Trap, BUT they lose more from inflation + cantillion + federal/state taxes, pay more in sales taxes, etc.
Oh look- Here we have a marvellous bunch of people encouraging us all to “think for ourselves”. So, let’s just hang on a sec- Some of us simply DON’T WANT to think for ourselves. In fact, we DEMAND to be allowed to NOT think for ourselves. AND we want everyone to be compelled to fall in line and support us.
Thanks. 😊
It’s not as bad as it looks. We don’t need the majority to break free from “The Most Dangerous Superstition”. We only need about 10%+? The rest are followers will not resist. They obey. They “go alone to get along”. Once a non-violent culture starts creating prosperity, the “poor” will be better off than the “rich” in other countries. And the intellectually sovereign will concentrate or even better, they will form internet communities, and change their society, until humanity becomes politically mature, psyco-epistomologically cured.
It is a fascinating—and admittedly honest—paradox you’ve pointed out. Most people wrap their desire for conformity in the language of “common sense” or “the greater good,” but you’ve stripped the paint right off to show the raw machinery underneath.
There is a strange, heavy comfort in certainty, isn’t there? Thinking for oneself is exhausting; it requires constant maintenance, the endurance of doubt, and the risk of being wrong. To “demand” the right to opt out of that labor is, in a way, the ultimate luxury.
Years ago, Garrison Keelor had a short poetry minute, a poets minute in history, ; some silly English majors acknowledgment of some poets birthday or something like that. This was the 90’s on NPR. Keelor spoke of this poet with awe but I’ve never found who this poet was. However, I’ve never forgot the poets remarks on humanity. 1890s in New York City was a tough place, has been over the centuries and the poets , Irish poets in the burrows of New York City gave the readers timeless wisdom. The writer/ poet famous quote , paraphrasing here { No matter what low , dark level of human suffering one experiences, a cop can come along and make it worse. }
Wisdom of the ages.
“No matter what low , dark level of human suffering one experiences, a cop can come along and make it worse.” – GBW paraphrasing a past century Irish poet in New York City
Paraphrase or not, that’s golden.
And when the authorities have left some slum neighborhoods without any “services”, e.g., as in Detroit, “The Detroit Threat Management”, armed with humanity, will come along and made a bad moment in someone’s life – better.
A private police force operating on behalf of wealthy property owners with is exactly what we have now. “Helping non customers” can flip to excluding everyone who isn’t a card carrying debtor aka shopper. It also leaves out immiserated regions to fend for themselves.
Fuck this smiley faced elitist concept.
Fiefdom.
True, but: 1. The left wants a gang of thugs, to steal/disperse the wealth. 2. The right wants their wealth protected, themselves served, and are willing to pay for the violent status quo. 3. Caught in the middle are those who believe they have no choice, this is better than nothing. 4. The voluntarists see the initiation of violence as chaos, immoral, irrationality.
We can’t get anywhere with blame and shame labels, for starters. We’re in a swirling soup of little-understood and blurry ideologies.
The People want to stop being harassed and murdered by “public safety officers.” I watch cop cams for fun, and it’s mostly the poor and distressed getting more of the same, tho occasionally a wealthy vacationer gets hauled to the pokey for insolent alcoholism. I somehow live in a wealthy zip and we RARELY interact with the pigs.
The middle is where rights to food, shelter, peace and security crash into the compulsion to control ALL the stuff to accrue massive power and profits.
Your theory is that the Left are poor and the Right are wealthy. lol All humans want their stuff protected. Do that first and there won’t be an army of unemployed tradesman plugging up the air vents in the underground billionaire bunkers.
Maenad
That’s a catchy tune you sang there …{” We’re in a swirling soup of little-understood and blurry ideologies.” }
God help those traveling soup-shows as they struggle to make a living in the American Heartland. I think, therefore the future doesn’t affect me. I’ll credit the back-fire of the Television Propaganda Machine failure ( c. 1948- 2001 ) for giving us ( the USA ) the inability to absorb those swirling ideologies. To act on those swirling ideologies. The 30 minute sitcom, the 1 hour 13 episode revolving dramas that lived our live for us. Did our thinking for us.
I just finished an interesting book that claimed in the narrative that ” when the pure ideology comes to fruition the overbearing burdensome government will evaporate for lack of purpose. So from any angle we perceived of any ideology , once it reaches purity it transcends the need of the body government. Much like the Television , the final episode will never arrive in its purity marking the End of.. what? dis-eutopia? The show will be continued next week , ” so you’ll come back now” , …on to commercial … The future, wheather Democracy, Communism, Anarchism, Voluntarism or what ever …will never reach the Pure state, ending it’s needs for the architecture that brought us to any eutopia. It’s the journey with no future end in sight. Now it is what protects us , the promise of season 831 …just ahead. Nothing will stick to the American mind now . They overplayed their hand and it’s a runaway train. Pure oneworld anything hasn’t got a chance here. They’ve become a victim of their own poison well. Find out in next week’s show. Never meant to end.
The plugging up of air vents . That is not a fly in my soup, is it a fly in theirs? It’s a thought.
An interesting bunch of high energy guys. My wish is that there were more people like James and Kit who can complete their sentences.
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It was a great discussion, though the fact that Kit Knightly said police do not murder people in UK does seem to reenforce the truth of what he said about how he has lived a very sheltered life (and thus his statements on that front are not necessarily indicative of everyone’s experience) as I have several friends there that tell me a very different story about police abuse.
High end neighborhoods and specific racial demographics are likely to see a very different side of the coppers over there.
I follow Crimebodge. He does report that police office sirs are scum, usually, but order follower induced murder does appear to be less of a deal in the UK.
@mkey
I appreciate the comment and additional context.
The friend that has told me the worst stories from UK is a DJ and he has a higher melanin skin content than most humans. He tells me of stories of disappeared people that are Arabic and “black” that go for rides in police cars and are never seen again. Though that could involve a hand off to some other spooks and the cops are not doing the actual murdering I suppose.
There are also quite a few publicly acknowledged order follower (with a badge) murders of UK citizens as well.
Though I suppose its all relative, and if you live in some ghetto in the US, or cartel territory in Mexico or Surrey, BC, Canada… perhaps there are indeed a lot more police murders of unarmed people than in the UK.
In any case, like Kit said, he is more of a statist than any of the other people that were talking in the panel above, and thus, this creates a lens through which he perceives “authority” that may skew some of the less pleasant realities which are regularly experienced when statist goons show up (by less fortunate UK citizens).
Thanks for the comment.
Peace Corbett, and Corbett fam;
I have recently felt very much in tuned to what Mr Ernest’s thoughts on delegating authority to an outside force. What responsibilities do we keep to ourselves, not because it’s “right”, but because it’s our responsibility as people inhabiting a space right here and now in a situation (however big or small); and to see the moment as a call for contemplation, and an invitation to be a part of connecting?
A specific situation that has kept me awake nights has been a coworker of mine was let go under. The supervisor in charge couldn’t bring themselves to tell them (the one being fired) personally, nor the truth about the reasons they were being firing. They (the one let go) has since found a job, and confided in me that they see the “bright side” to being let go, but still have no clear understanding as to why they were fired, or what wrong they did after years of service and availability to their job.
Personally, I would hope that if I had crap on my face, if I smelled, or was down right just being an awful person in a crabby mood; someone would tell me.
My feelings are that my ex coworker ought to know the very reasons, so that, in the very least he has a chance to work on himself and change, should he so choose. He made daily work life uneasy for other coworkers, and didn’t handle being a manager with OCD very well. However, since personally worked alongside him, I valued most of his work ethic, tidy-ness, and the simple fact that he got his work done. Doesn’t he deserve to know that he has qualities that are less than helpful when working with a team? What are his new co workers facing (or perhaps not facing), that could be sparing them headaches, him more questions, and discomforts? After a recent local viewing of Mr Larken’s ‘The Jones Plantation’, I shared these thoughts. Everyone questioned whether “Are they (he) in a place to even hear you and want to change? They could also get angry, vengeful, and take it out on you!?”
I can see the problems that could arise, and I believe I am not the person for the task of telling my ex coworker the truth. In an ideal (or I should say accountable) situation, he should have heard many things from everyone who’s worked with him since the formation of the business (I’ve only been there less than a year and am traveling through). Nevertheless, how are any of us (big picture idea) supposed to attend to our inner workings of how we want to see and be treated in the world, if we can’t even talk to each other, for sake of being responsible and teaching one another?
Like Mr Larken’s protagonist on the plantation, my people are concerned I will get hurt in the process of saying the truth to someone who has shown angry, and childish behavior. Even if that’s a possibility, aren’t people worth trying for, especially if it helps us all grow forward?
Inquisitively,
Desirée
Why didn’t you talk to him? Is it too late now?
If he smells, you can broach the subject without words.
Just put some dog shit on your clothes, and engage him in a long boring, up close discussion.
JAMES, I AM ON AN OLDER PARTITION ON MY IMAC (10.6.8) USING POWERFOX BROWSER AND THE VID DOESN’T WORK SO I CLICKED ON THE BITCHUTE CHOICE AND A 404 PAGE NOT FOUND SCREEN COMES UP.
Went back to my primary partition with High Sierra and the vid worked. So I guess, while the Power Fox browser is good for older systems it will have its limitations.
Regarding the subject.
There are lots of videos on youtube on how to handle cops in various situations…car stops, wellness checks, etc. The best advice is to not answer the door unless they state they have a warrant, and you can look at it first. Some of the vids are live encounters, other ex cops, lawyers, etc.
The second best is don’t talk crap to them in a car stop. Hands on the wheel, keys on the dash and take it to court if you have any issues.
Always remember, they can lie without any repercussion in court.
Appreciate the mention by Ernie of Midfest.info
In 2022, after a freedom festival that had the cops involved, during the 14-hour drive home, there was plenty of time to reflect on the experience. I determined the reason for the cops was people not knowing how to avoid them. So, some more knowledgeable friends helped create a Dispute Resolution Process for Midfest, which we’ve not yet needed. The process is at
https://midfest.info/DisputeResolution.html
Midfest happens every April and October in the western foothills of the Ozarks, near the middle of the North America continent.
Hope this helps others with similar anarchist gatherings.
At 00:21 “[…] this is theater, and you need to get back into the real world”
Anybody knows who said that?
That’s the notable CAF that is Catherine Austin Fitts.
Maybe the Quaker can teach us something in that regard, considering their several hundreds of years of experience having no actual law enforcement in their communities and not needing them?
The anarchist norms promoted here are extremely problematic, because societies need government with justice systems (police, courts). Justice, public peace, protection of life and liberty cannot be handled by anarchist systems. The state, government, is not inherently corrupt. But nations get the governments they deserve: if the people are immoral, their government will be immoral. But we must be mindful that any member of society may be trying to do well, and all members should be patiently helped to do well; likewise government officials. It is atrocious that anarchists point a finger at the state as the boogeyman, ignoring the immorality of their own ideas and actions, and promoting chaos, vigilantism, disaster.
“societies need government with justice systems (police, courts). Justice, public peace, protection of life and liberty cannot be handled by anarchist systems.”
Did you find that written in stone? Did you miss the point that more cooperative people can function, better, without babysitters (controlling authority)?
atrociously arrogant or not, I agree that we often are lazy in our naming which then corrals lotsa people into something they are completely un related to,,
such as
“,,the Jews did it to the Muslims” (both spiritual teachings are incomplete)
“the government did it” (name is too easy going considering the bent nature of all of them).
“the americans” (argentinians consider themselves “american”).
I suppose giving actual names to the perpetrators is a stronger use of language.
“ignoring the immorality of their own ideas and actions”
The first comment I posted on this thread, seems like its been at least a decade+, alluded to your mention of “ignorance”:
Yes, we are complicit with ours and others demise by degree.
We protest and block the “coal seam gas” well. It took months of 24/7 vigilance, hundreds of people, and eventual undercover help from the authorities. But we all did it, blocked one well (out of thousands already in place), and then every body got in their gas guzzling cars and drove home to a gas fueled hot shower and gas cooked food.
Yes, acting like an emperor, the landlord holds control over our will to stay or go. Thats 1/2 the game of survival, having meaningful shelter, and its dominated by a few land holders who are dominated by government department heads, who are likely dominated by those very few biggest land holders with other means of leverage.
Yes Dr’s will use ancient greek to label the body and make up names for patterns of symptoms (dotes and antidotes), not to communicate with precision, but to obfuscate the client/patient’s understanding, evoking that nudge necessary to give ones faith over to someone who knows ancient greek “better”.
Thus we are in a self made fog of cognitive dissonance, by degree.
ANECDOTE…
– Small town Sheriff’s Deputy –
Late night in a very small town, just over a month ago, I got pulled over by the Sheriff’s office.
It was my first night’s impression of my new digs.
BACKSTORY
The previous months to April have been extremely stressful. While trying to recover my physical health I also had to move by March 31st. The days and weeks were long. I was trashing thousands of dollars of stuff and keepsakes trying to downsize to less than a fourth of the square foot area that I was currently living in. I loaded two Pods almost by myself. One Pod I now own and will be my storage/tool shed. I had lined both 20’ walls with the shelves from my place. The shelves are over 25 years old.
March 31st was a long marathon day where I would transition to my new, tiny digs out in the sticks near a small town. It was well over a hundred miles southwest from my old place in the Dallas area. Not only stressed mentally and physically, I was pretty grumpy ‘cuz my new digs had already ticked about a hundred of my “don’t like” boxes. At this point, you could find my picture in the dictionary under “curmudgeon.” But I kept telling myself that I will get used to it, that I will acclimate and embrace the positive aspects.
March 31st. This was my first day/night in an unfamiliar area. I knew I would be sleeping in a folding chair that night. It was late and I had not eaten all day. Cautious in the darkness, I drove the twisting country roads into town. The town had a What-A-Burger and that was my target. In town, I got in a turn lane to double back because I thought I had missed it. But in the turn lane, I spotted the burger joint straight ahead. After checking for cars behind me, I pulled out of the turn lane into the straight-way street.
Right away the deputy sheriff’s lights go on behind me. I head straight and turn right onto a side street and park with my engine running, but also rolled down my window. I kept both my hands on the top of the wheel.
continued…
…continuing ANECDOTE…
The deputy was young, lean and very friendly, down-home sounding.
Deputy – “Do you know why I pulled you over?”
“No.”
Deputy – “Your headlight is out.”
“Oh! It’s a short.” I wanted to get out and bang the light, but the deputy told me to stay in the car.
He asked for my license and insurance. Then he proceeded to ask me 50 questions in a friendly like manner. I knew what he was doing. He was ‘testing’ me. He was seeing if I would lie about something.
During the questioning, I explained that I had just moved to the area that day.
“My landlord is ______ ______ . You probably heard of the ______ family.”
He replied that he did not know anyone with that last name.
Well, I knew that was a lie. His boss, the Sheriff has that last name. There are many other folks in town, including another County official with that last name.
Finally, he was finished with his questions. He let me get out of the car. I go to the front right headlight and slap it with my hand. On it comes. He did not give me a ticket, nor even chide me for a faulty headlight. I thanked him for his friendliness, and implied that ‘being friendly’ is unusual for law enforcement.
What-A-Burger was 100 feet away and so I get in the queue line to place my order. The guy on the speaker said that it would be 30 minutes before they could do the burger ‘cuz a bus of kids came in. So, I carefully drive in reverse for 50 feet to get out of the queue.
It’s late. I’m famished. I’m a wreck. I drive to a highway and place an order at another burger place. Then I go the twisting roads back to my place and inhale the burger. Not at all satiated, I again drove the dark roads back to the joint and ordered another burger. That one did it for me. Very late now, I crashed.
And that was my first night in my new digs.
If such questioning passes off for friendly these days, is there anything else that needs to be said about policing? The only good thing that can be said about the police in my area is that they are spread REAL thin. There just aren’t that many to go around these days. And we still somehow manage to not kill, rape, maim and otherwise injure each other. People get on with their business and mind their own affairs, for the most part. Strange how that works out, I thought without police we were all supposed to be dead or worse :]
I hope you have managed to settle in your new crib. Moving is a big pain in the ass. Do you have a yard at the new place?
mkey asks:
“Do you have a yard at the new place?”
Probably not far from the size of a football field.
It took a young guy three hours to mow it last week on an old riding lawnmower, and then he came back in a few days to weed-eat the rough spots.
I’m at the life season where I want only a small yard.
Also, I don’t like driving a half hour one way to get groceries.
I was spoiled at my old place. Small yard and only drove 600 miles per year (confirmed by the annual mandatory car inspection.)
If I was decades younger, then I would have a completely different take on things.
It will probably take about a year to organize things and set things to a practical, non-cope level.
I have some metal detectors that have not been used in a decade or two or three. I look forward to that.
Also, I have literally tons of glass along with the torch, special glasses/gloves/kiln for doing some glass work. 20 years ago was the last time I worked glass. That will be fun to get back into once I set-up a shed-like workspace.
You can start a compost pile on all those grass clippings 😀 I hear ya. I don’t like driving either.
But still I pull quite a bit more than 600 mpy. Used to do something like that, maybe even less, a few years back with my WFH arrangement. But, I must say, I kind of prefer the hands on approach of driving to the place of work and, more importantly, coming back from it. There is a quality to getting around actual people instead of pushing pixels around the screen all day long. It adds a special quality to the old hamster wheel.
Don’t talk to cops.
Full stop.
You have the right to remain silent. You are being recorded.
Small talk is not small talk.
You can (politely) refuse to answer questions.
Never. Ever. Consent to a search of your vehicle or person.
If they ask this question “would you mind if we searched your vehicle?”
That is a question, and the answer is “I do not consent to a search.”
You never voluntarily allow a cop into your car.
If you’re on the ground in handcuffs, that’s a different scenario.
If you’re in your car with keys in the ignition, the response is always a negative.
Do not talk to the cops.
Period.
Bird,
I’m with ya on “no consent” search and all.
But in this situation, not talking to the deputy in a friendly manner would be inappropriate. In fact, my being mum potentially could ignite a bad situation for me. And I was already beat-up from no food and short nights and stressful, hard labor.
This is a very small town.
Things work differently in small communities.
Long time residents know all the other long time residents.
Besides, “Friendly” is a universal language.
If the deputy had pulled an injustice on me, I could very easily get things rectified here. I know who to call.
I do have a little experience on going to jail. Been in jail twice…two different cities…for “soliciting without a permit”…back in the late 70’s.
I did listen to all of the remarks, more intently than I assumed I would and appreciated the ‘thoughtfulness’ of the panel.
However, about ten minutes into the broadcast, I wondered why not one mention/example of violent crimes against women (rape for example) surfaced, in the context of the topic at hand.
Very disappointing and then, I considered this~ that perhaps there is no woman in the recognized circle of thought leaders addressing alternative ways to deal with authority where there is criminal domestic violence, brutal attacks, rape, homicide etc. Do know I am well aware of the shortcomings and outright failures of law enforcement in this ‘area’ of crime. And also, of programs that provide relief, support, and education on prevention.
Perhaps it would be helpful to share data regarding the nature and numbers of contacts with law enforcement. This is a large order, but some perspective on the scope of contacts with law enforcement might serve ongoing discussion on how we use authority and how to modify our behavior.
Hopefully, you will continue this discussion and broaden its’ scope by specifying other real-life events that threaten our safety, and our lives. (mass shootings another example)
I embrace self and community responsibility. It excites me to think that we can shift the paradigm to another way of being/living on a grander scale. At the same time, recognizing the violence that prevails in our society seems vitall to how we modify our use of/reliance upon existing authority structures.
Thank you James for what you do and how you do it. I am a committed supporter.
I feel like those specifics you mention are basically covered by principals of non aggression. This is not a gender topic, it is a human topic. Rape is just violence, and women do not have a monopoly on being the victim of violence.
In general the formation of special interest groups is one of the main vehicles of the problems being discussed here, and should be avoided at all costs. We are all humans, and violence is violence regardless of flavor. One’s plumbing is irrelevant.
Rape is one of the forms of theft, as Mark Passio aptly put it. It’s the theft of bodily autonomy/freedom of choice of sexual partners.
Deja vu et deja entendu.
Thanks James for an interesting discussion. This is not a reply to anyone and my observation has probably been made by others in previous posts. Sorry if it’s off topic, but is your real identity Walter White aka Heisenberg? It’s all in the movies!
OBEY AUTHORITY
You should obey authority, right? For more info, please visit:
https://obeyauthority.com
That link takes you to some content explaining why you should, or should not, obey authority. I use it as an eye-catching link in my email signature (for some of my accounts), and on some online forums.
Cool move!
😉
🙏
Great, that was enlightening. I would add one situation where it might be necessary to resort to the authorities in our statist world and that’d be when someone or some entity has filed a complaint against you (following a dispute, for instance) even though you are not guilty of what you are being accused of, whereas the other party is to blame for the contention. Not reporting to the official justice apparatus could be perceived as an admission of the allegations.
Because of the photo and the title, I thought this podcast might address what to do when the police come knocking at your door to enforce a new government policy that just came into law that maybe I and others are not complying with. Since, the Covid scam wasn’t really that long ago, and I expect such “protocols” to be enacted in the future, I thought that would be something worth listening to. That is, what do you say to authorities coming to your door because you are not complying with the latest lockdown, digital ID, vaccine, etc policy recently enacted. However, the conversation ended up being about when and when not to call the police. No problem. I listened to it, and enjoyed it. However, the non-compliance situation seems a little more of a realistic future issue that we all might have to deal with.
Get guns, that’s pretty much all you can do and what things will boil down to, eventually. Remember that Solzhenitsyn quote from Gulag Archipelago.
Mkey
You have been active lately. What a joy to hear from the sunny climes of the Adriatic Sea , as well as comments from that country south of me here in the Midwest. That being Texico. I had listened to this round table discussion from Technocracy Roundtable a while back.
It parallels and substanciates these active comments recently , even though it’s several weeks old. I guess the cycle was a little slow on this end. But it is relevant now.
The food subject is prevalent as is what you have commented above. We are sorely uninformed as to Solzhenitsyn . Patrick Wood clearly states what the problem is here in the good Ol’ USA. We don’t use our guns often enough for fear of being confused with terrorists and extortionist and armed robbers. Yes, we are great at defence once we have been attacked, we overreact and kill everything in sight. As you probably noticed recently that the attack can be real or imagined. Makes no difference to a chicken. Takes a lot to get a chicken to react to an attack in person. They prefer hiring standing mercenaries. When those hired hands start raiding the hen house they won’t raise a feather.
Food, chickens, beef , guns highwaymen ; surely Solzhenitsyn must have been phylosyphing on the hen house now known as Technocracy.
https://patrickwood.substack.com/p/technocracys-war-on-food-whos-controlling
Chickens, similar to humans, won’t raise a fuss as long as they are well off.
From the overly sunny karst coast of norhtern adriatic. Global warming is really ramping up this spring.
Mkey
Meh …. Plenty of people with guns have let the US go to hell in a hand basket. No tool matters more then the mind controling the hand holding it.
They don’t need to carry anyone off to a gulag these days…..the new gulag is the cell phone
I resonate with Etienne’s final statement, that the large part of the social problems laid out in this discussion have been generated by the social structure that informs psychopathic behavior, causing the need for a protector/enforcer/authority for intervention. That without impoverishment, and social engineering/ indoctrination, the vast majority of people just want to live their lives in their own way, if we could reach that point – the only trouble makers would be the true psychopaths – crass as it sounds, and as against my core beliefs as it is; addressing that faction by any means necessary is the intelligent thing to do, but who gets to decide what boundaries that entails?
Still, it sounds a damn sight better than the present situation we find ourselves in.. I don’t think I would raise much of a voice if someone threw a bush or some gates into a pit somewhere. Is that really any different than the mentality of these eugenics obsessed “kaks”? With that; who then enforces the mandate of taking out the trash? What powers would they be given? For how long? To what end? At what point do these bodies begin drafting their own mandates?
At the end of the day, all roads lead to the same end – so why wait for some quasi-utopia to identify and deal with these blights on the planet? There should be a definable line between a crime and a crime against humanity, that needs no authority to delineate and brooks no quarter. The only true solution to this is to recall that we are all individual animals living in a hostile universe, that owes us nothing,and it is each our own responsibility to ensure our continued existence. If that existence is not important enough for you to go through the effort of defending yourself, and instead relying on an organized body to protect you, is it worth investing in that? Does a deer hire a hunter to protect them from inedible wolves? What is the currency exchanged? How long until the hunter starves and no longer has the strength to protect? At what point do they turn their arms on their patrons to ensure their own continued existence?
In this analogy, it is unsustainable to be a deer, it is antisocial to become the wolf, so we must then, each be hunters.
We are quickly losing our collective ability to be the hunter because we are adhering to a notion that we should choose to live like deer, meanwhile the wolves accrue power.
The only laws should be: It is your own responsibility to ensure your existence, and it is unlawful to accumulate centralized power. All heavily spiced with non-aggression principals.
The “kaks” understand this, it’s why they disarm people and prohibit/regulate large gatherings, while formulating their own armed, large gatherings.
Citizen! Arm thyself!
I would say the only laws worth codifying are: a) do no harm b) honor your agreements.