Interview 1497 – Catherine Austin Fitts on Where the Missing Trillions Are Going

by | Nov 26, 2019 | Interviews | 27 comments

So we all know about the missing trillions by now, but where is that money going? And what can Americans do to reclaim that money that is rightfully theirs? Join Catherine Austin Fitts of and James Corbett of The Corbett Report for this wide-ranging discussion on the most important topic of our time that no one is talking about.

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  1. Broken link: First link on homepage does not lead to this page.

      • Thank you for another great interview … and for yet again leaving me a little shocked … I mean it’s one thing to have an idea about the nature of the fraud in almost every level of society …
        but it’s quite another to get a candid inside look at the level of specific fraud from someone that’s been consistently knee deep in it … trying to sort it out … and make sense of it all
        Also James yet again you ask great pertinent questions and you always let guests finish their thoughts … and you help them remember their own trains of thought …

        So hello to all … so glad to read an intelligent comments section … finally … lol … cheers

  2. It is clear that the money went towards something.
    Let me list all my options.

    1. Back to the banks and bankers.

    2. To drugs, prostitution and illegal weapons

    3. To secret projects.

    __ a. Huge underground bases.

    __ b. Far advanced unknown technology (Like: Human made UFOs)

    __ c. Mind control via unknown chemical/EM technologies

    __ d. (?) Occult

    __ e. (?) Secret self-aware AI or even alien masters.

    4. Government and people control via bribes, media and tech.


    The amount of money is so large, that we would see a huge
    infrastructure grow around the receivers.
    This kind of removes possibility 3.

    • Your #3 choice is the most likely, not the least, IMO.

      Why? The public, even when inside the miliary, is not allowed, without special access clearance, to visit anything underground. The public is not invited to go onto top secret military areas such as the Nellis Range–BIG area protected by men with huge nasty automatic weapons. IT’S A SECRET. How would we ever know what is actually going on inside these facilities?

      Insiders and whistleblowers report many things, whether believable or not to anyone. The reports say one thing–a boatload of money is being spent on SAPs (special access programs) that connect directly to contracted corporations via the military–there is a revolving door policy between the two. This is not an exception but the norm. As well, DUMBs and off-limit areas like the Nellis Range are run by the US all over the world, not just on US soil.

      There is a huge infrastructure you just can’t see it.

      • > There is a huge infrastructure you just can’t see it.

        A 21 trillion dollar infrastructure would be visible from mars.

      • I’m inclined to agree. And expensive technology needn’t be hidden in the middle of a mountain: it could be staring us in the face and we would never know it for what it was…

    • I know a civilian guy who does some project management for the army and he has found that the literally FORGET about owning some things which would cost huge sums of money…. never underestimate how much money people can waste when its not theirs and no one ever stops them from being retarded.
      The OTHER thing to remember is that federal money is itself pretty much a ‘magical idea’ or ‘social construct’ at this point where the FED creates or destroys billions of dollars with a few button presses.
      As long as everyone is drawing a decent wage and looking forwards to retirement not one in a thousand will wonder if their sawing the branch they sit on off the tree.

  3. Excellent thumbnail choice. Few things draw attention as well as the patterns & colors of $bills.
    I can already see it drawing more eyes on the forums I posted it on.

  4. Great interview. Catherine Austin Fitts is one of the few people who actually has been digging into the missing trillions story and it’s always nice to see both of you discussing the issue.

    I also tend to agree with Catherine about where most of the money could be going to. I think what we are witnessing here is some sort of breakaway civilization that has come into existence within the last century or so. This happened when these secret organizations were allowed into existence and given nearly limitless powers over the economy, intelligence and military. What makes it worse is that they use a system of compartmentalization that is modeled after secret societies like the degrees in Freemasonry and which makes it difficult for the outside observer to investigate. There has to be countless useful idiots that have worked within the secret system without knowing the actual whos, whats, wheres, whens, hows, and whys.

    As for the spraying mentioned in the video, there was a recent article on the Activist Post that went into detail about the history of spraying coal fly ash:

    • JFK killed the ‘Project Orion’ atomic bomb powered rocket ship that would have taken off, carried humans to mars and landed IN ONE PIECE… and the ship planned was as big as a medium sized building.
      It was literately star trek level stuff…. the ship was designed witha Barbers chair because weight didnt matter at all.
      Honestly… if they blew the money on something cool like secret space colonies it would be worth it but I bet they snorted it up their noses and spent it on hookers.

  5. Just one wafer thin mint…. lol

    ‘…but I just don’t think there are enough minions to carry out the cabal’s directives without spilling the beans, so to speak….’
    One hand can drive a huge monster truck because you just need to move the steering wheel- a few guys in mid to high level positions in a government department and whallla- the public servants become the cabals minions without even knowing it.
    The majority of churches got turned around on theology by simply sending a few people thru the seminaries and letting them take teaching roles later on… the same with how Foundations shaped the way history is taught, education done and medicine licenced with a relatively small amount of money in just the right place

  6. Mintaka, could you please post the URL to the comment you wrote the day before this one? Thanks.

    • Yup, it was, thanks, Mintaka. Missed that episode of Prop Watch, so I’m glad you steered me to it!

  7. Another good thing about being an Anarchist is that at least you know who is behind your government.

  8. Alexandre
    Winston Churchill was, like a large number of people at the time, well aware that the Bolsheviks were a highly ‘jewish’ group but was able to tell the difference between good and bad jewish people (loyal vs international)… the number of ‘jewish’ people who have any REAL power is small but plenty of people who DO have power are happy to hide from criticism behind calling it ‘anti-semitism’
    Churchills own words.
    Also, not all Jewish groups line up along the same lines- Dr Richard Spence (NOT the alt-righter of a similar name!!!) talks about how German jews in the USA were pro Germany for most of WW1 as well as touching on Trotsky’s rich relatives and how wall street funded the Red revolution
    if you like the link copy the vid because Youtube’s making it pretty hard to stumble across

  9. Wonderful interview!

    I believe the “black budget” programs of the Pentagon and DARPA go beyond just a secret space shuttle.

    The MIC I believe has been behind much of the weird looking crafts that have shown up around the world known as the “black triangles” that some commentators have pointed out to be associated with the Lockheed Martin Astra TR3B crafts.

    Check out the patent for such a craft here:

    Also, if your curious, look up TR-3B as a YouTube search…granted, there are some fakes, but there was a series of legitimate reports on them in the late 80s and throughout the 90s in countries like Belgium and Russia.

    I believe a large portion of revenue is going to secret projects to set up the technocratic new world order that we have been talking about for decades since the early 20th century.

  10. From “The Hated One”
    How the Federal Reserve creates free money for big banks, CEOs and billionaires
    The U.S. Federal Reserve creates free money for those who are “creditworthy”, which artificially raises their wealth, indebts the poor, and inflates money on people’s savings. It’s time to have a discussion whether this is acceptable in a society of the greatest income inequality in history.

  11. Catherine talks about how much families could benefit if the $21 trillion was recovered ($65,000 per person).

    One obvious problem I see is that if the American population was actually able to get the U.S. government to do the dirty work of coughing up the $21 trillion, it is a given that they would NOT distribute it to all Americans.

    Rather they would simply tell the public, look we’ve been able to account for the $21 trillion. Most of it has already been spent and is unrecoverable, the remainder we will use to fund various government programs in need of money. In other words the public would not directly see a red cent.

  12. And a light came into being. And with that light the darkness was reduced and the fear of that darkness lessened.
    I would like to hear a discussion between Dr.Shiva Ayyandurai and C. Austin-Fitts on the ‘ hiding in plan sight ‘ area surrounding Cambridge, Mass.

    I read recently, here at TCR, about the small number of wealthy families ruling the cabal, in proportion to the large number of people being ruled. The choice of words was interesting in assigning a number to the ruling elite. ” one or two score… of them.”
    No wonder the mind is the battleground. There is a score to settle and we, the 6.99 billion subjected souls are paralyzed by 40 or so terrorized ruling families. The kind of terror characterized by Braum Stoker in Dracula. The illuminating of darkness has a huge impact on easing our fear but it intensifies their fear a thousand fold. A cornered beast is extremely dangerous but you have to wonder what occurs when the beast is free of his fears. The rampaging that consumes us today.
    C.A-F has such a positive attitude in trying to bring equilibrium back to our existence. The starting point seems to lack a clear beginning and momentum of the hoi-paloy to counter the measures put in place. Dracula was old and wise and cunning cause he plays for keeps. Why can’t I get any momentum? Up is down and forward is backward? I Think Not. Where are the vulnerabilities JC, C.A-F? Its me on this side but what of their side? Isn’t this article based on a us vs them?

    • Makes perfect since Alexandre. The over burden of lies hides the golden truths underneath. You are going to get wet going for those truths, either by tears or sweat. Can you tell the sign of artistic melancholy? What’s left to do, en-mass?
      Anecdotaly, about the toll booth, my Venezuelan friend’s Mother was the campaign manager for the white party for all of western Venezuela since the late 50s. The Maricibo bridge had a toll booth and was the most valuable prize in the elections. Every six years her choice of the vendor/ collector of the toll was hers to make. It was understood, one for Venezuela, one for me, whoever was in at the time. Both parties shared up until the greens won two in a row.

      • Oops !Sorry meant to say every 12 years she owned that bridge. 6 years in power, 6 years out. Then someone did something and chaos ruled ever since.

  13. If you wanna see how some of those missing trillions are being spent check out what these guys are up to at Kirtland Air Force Base:

    From one of the article linked above

    “Air Force’s procurement bureaucracy was not agile enough to respond to challenges posed by rival space powers threatening to target U.S. systems… The Space Rapid Capabilities Office operates with far more autonomy than most military procurement shops…

    …”The technologies aboard these satellites will be leveraged by the Space Force and probably will proliferate to other systems,” Hammett said. He noted that the payloads were produced at breakneck speed by military procurement standards.”

    If one takes a closer look at the other covert ops that are run out of that base of operations (such as Sandia National Laboratories or SNL, Phillips labs, Manzano Mountain underground complex, Coyote Canyon Test Site and the White Sands Complex) and what they have been involved with in the past decades one can get a pretty good idea of where they are spending those trillions.


      “𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥 𝐍𝐞𝐭𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤 Update ‘On Track’”

      “New, Low-Cost Jammers
      …“remote modular terminals,” or RMTs, which are “𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝-𝐛𝐚𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐣𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐬,” he said, noting that SpRCO awarded the contract September 2022 “and took delivery of the first four units two months ago.”

      According to slides presented during SpRCO’s “industry days” in October by Col. Greg Hoffman [PDF], RMT is a “ground-based electronic warfare system that provides low cost, flexible, satellite communications jamming”

      (That means if they want to shut down your dissident telecommunications networks, they will have weaponized satellite grids to do so).

      “Three novel sensor payloads launched by the Space Force in January are now up and running, collecting data on potential on-orbit ‘threats’, according to the director of the Space Rapid Capabilities Office (SpRCO).”

      “Rapid Resilient Command and Control (R2C2), and is developing software that will allow Space Force operators to manage hundreds of highly mobile satellites and spacecraft being envisioned for future dynamic space operations.”

      (Some of those orbital platforms they are putting up there, with the help of pawns like Musk, have integrated DEW systems. They are building out the orbital grid for enforcing “Full Spectrum Dominance” on Earth.)

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