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1. G on 03/07/2025 at 10:03 am

   Thanks for the updates on all those petty government mobsters tryna tariff each other to death.

   The great news is while the human economy may be manipulated by those whiny chest thumping man babies in governments, the living Earth’s economy remains rock solid for those that invest in her 😉

   https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/the-best-investment-on-earth-is-earth

   My wife tells me when we was getting some local organic mead from the government liqueur store today for St. Patties day she saw the staff stripping the shelves of all US booze. Looked pretty empty in there apparently.

   Oh well! Less glyphosate laced beer and wine to poison people on the local market, win win! (though both Canada and US produce lots of glyphosate laced beer and wine, so they`ll likely fill the gap with more Canadian poison soon haha).

   I see so many locals getting soo adversarial with American people, talking smack to each other, online and posturing like they are soo much better (while we live in Turdo’s Regime of tyranny, exploitation and cowardice). They are like children in middle school getting all agro with kids from the neighboring school, it is ridiculous. James is right about the petty vindictiveness in some people here, directing animosity at people that have nothing to do with these tariffs too, idiots.

   Thanks for helping people see through the arbitrary “us” vs “them” propaganda they are attempting to push onto people guys. Keep up the great work!

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   • G on 03/07/2025 at 10:18 am

     when she was getting*

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   • Duck on 03/07/2025 at 11:23 am

     I know when I was up in Canada the folks were all very “welcome to Canada…. America that way and be sure to spend some money here on your way home” lololol

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     • G on 03/07/2025 at 11:42 am

       @Duck

       The fact that the majority of humans have been indoctrinated to identify themselves as different than (better than, less then, nicer than, tougher than, pic your preferred comparative metric) some other people that live on the other side of an invisible line drawn on a map by people that are long dead now just goes to show how dangerous the religion of statism can be.

       Cheerleading their local mob bosses that take half of their hard earned money and laugh all the way to their yachts and mansions… telling the people on the other side of the invisible line how much cooler their local racketeering operation is than the other guy’s… putting their life on the line in wars waged by these multi-generational mobsters thinking they are part of some force for good, that is the religion of statism for ya.

       Well, I do not care how much the idiots in government try to stir up hate and animosity between us here on Turtle Island.. I have connections with peoples in all 50 states and i`ll be supporting my brothers and sisters in the south with heirloom seeds and seditious permaculture skills 100% 😉

       If they close the borders, i`ll go all guerrilla gardener seed satyagrahi and train a falcon to carry seeds southward or commandeer a drone to do seed supply drops 🙂

       https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/the-revolution-will-involve-fermented

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       • Duck on 03/07/2025 at 12:24 pm

         I’m doubt they will close the boarder, tbh. I heard an interesting idea the other day that the tariffs are actually designed to lower the value of the dollar so that the US goods get more attractive by being cheaper the way China held its currency low to help exports.

         Hopefully your skills will get some wider adoption when things get tight.

         I was surprised to hear an NPR adjacent report on how the yartif threats had actually made Mexico do something (or be seen to do something….lol) about fentanyl labs down there. Hearing them being even a bit positive about anything Trump does was a surprise that makes me think things are moving where I can’t see them.

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   • candlelight on 03/07/2025 at 11:47 am

     Hey G,

     On the other thread we are on, I want to thank you for the links about harvesting the black walnuts. Very cool!

     As for this NWNW, you know, I have to say, anarchy, schmanarchy, at the end of the day, man, James got his Canadian ire up just at least a wee bit. I don’t know if you heard it, but I did!:-)

     I know you’re not into any of this nationalistic crap, politics, lies that emanate down from the tippy top of the hierarchy , but, wholly shit, Trump, the motherfucker, is an incredibly evil force! As an American (whatever the fuck that’s supposed to mean), I really have no words for that bastard, tRump. I mean, I can definitely rattle off words – cunt, son of a bitch, scumbag, cocksucker, etc., but that doesn’t even come close to what he really fucking is. He is way,way beyond that, and then some!!!!

     Which doesn’t solve a blessed thing, i.e., name calling. However, the man should be called out, at least in civil terms. In Trump’s case, it’s pretty straight forward, because he’s such an egregious, in-your-face, bastard, lying sonofabitch!….

     Ugh! I guess I can’t get away from it! 🙂

     Cheers
     PS: Keep on keeping on! It can very well be that the world depends on pure souls!
     I.e., to keep on keeping on……………

     Be good!

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     • G on 03/07/2025 at 12:18 pm

       @candlelight

       Re: The walnut info.

       Glad you found it useful. Let me know how it goes, I wanna do some foraging for those here too and i`ll take notes as well.

       Ya from the little bit of Trump I do see (when people glued to their smart phones demand that I see some clip they are outraged about and will not leave me alone till I watch it etc as, for better or for worse, I do not really watch government propaganda outlets much of my own volition) he does seem like a real piece of work.

       Then again so is turdo, it is just with him he puts on this disgusting fake “inclusiveness”, “sustainable” and “we are all in this together” smile (while he does the same shit Trump says he wants to do openly in the back ground).

       My wife tells me Trump wants to liquidate all the old growth forests in the states. So I really feel for you guys (and the Earth) if that is the case. I know some people out in the western states that will die to protect their little patch of “park land” or “public land” forest if it comes down to it. I pray it does not come to that.

       I dunno about pure soul man, I appreciate the kind words but I am far from perfect.

       I do know that I will not comply with their divide and conquer tactics and you are right that I am “not into any of this nationalistic crap, politics, lies that emanate down from the tippy top of the hierarchy”.

       I suppose looking through the permaculture lens at this shit show offers the perspective to see this disturbance as the opening of fertile ground for the seeds of sovereignty to germinate in individuals and communities all over.

       Here is to a 2025 of abundant harvests of forest food, irrepressible alliances transcending statist boundaries and courage born through necessity.

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       • candlelight on 03/07/2025 at 12:36 pm

         Amen.

         Courage through necessity. And necessity is the mother of invention!

         I was thinking about these tariffs on Canadian products. Is dRump including lumber coming from Canada? Is that not ironic? Perhaps dRump would have Canada move their resources south of the border? Tree by whole tree.

         The whole thing’s bizarre.

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         • G on 03/08/2025 at 8:23 am

           @candlelight

           Agreed.

           Not sure about the nitty gritty of what types of wood “products” are tariffed but that is worth investigating. I have been talking to some (people who love, live and breathe the last few patches of ancient forests left in Canada as they would love and cherish a family member or a sacred Cathedral) and they have said how they are glad a tariff would be put on lumber as it would decrease the amount of primary forest cut. I want to think that is true but I feel they are being naive.

           I wish the tariffs on lumber could be seen as a potential reprieve on the economic incentives to clearcut old growth here in Canada, but (as you know from reading my article titled “Death By A Thousand Clearcuts”) sadly, Canada’s government is just as willing to turn the 1000 year old Douglas Fir into pulp to sell to China or the EU for their “bio-mass” energy generation schemes.

           Protecting the last pockets of primary forests (the living memory of health and the Creator’s design for a resilient community on Earth) will require continued perseverance, gumption and unflinching integrity from satyagrahi on both sides of the invisible line.

           If you know of anyone that intends to stand their ground in the states to protect our tall rooted kin if the intended blitzkrieg of industry pushes into the last pockets of healthy forest in the, let me know. I will amplify their message and efforts to the best of my ability.

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           • candlelight on 03/08/2025 at 1:18 pm

             Hey G,

             I think you’re definitely correct. While it may be true that tariffs on Canadian wood products could conceivably put somewhat a damper on the decimation of Canadian woodlands, perversely, those same tariffs would logically have the effect of stepping up lumber production here in the States. It simply stands to reason that that would be the case from an economic point of view.
             It remains a case of wanton greed, it’s just a matter of whose pockets the money flows into.

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           • candlelight on 03/09/2025 at 6:41 am

             G,

             Saw this article just now on Trump’s executive orders on increasing lumber production while flouting environmental protections in the US.

             It’s sad.

             https://www.yahoo.com/news/did-trump-really-order-280-million-acres-of-national-forest-to-be-cut-down-223112112.html

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             • G on 03/09/2025 at 7:45 am

               @candlelight

               Thank you for the link and update.

               Forest defenders will hold the line as best they can I am sure.

               I`ll say a prayer that they remain safe and find the support they need.

             • candlelight on 03/09/2025 at 9:11 am

               From a commenter on another site regarding these executive orders:
               This from my local conservation group, Cascadia Wildlands, in Eugene, Oregon:
               “On March 1, Donald Trump signed an executive order entitled “Immediate Expansion of American Timber Production,” calling on federal land managers to “fully exploit our domestic timber supply,” and instructing agencies to bypass existing federal laws and regulations that protect stately forests, rural communities, clean water, imperiled species, recreation, and the climate.
               Trump argues that dramatically increasing domestic timber production is necessary to end a reliance on imported lumber. This is a lie. The United States is the world’s largest producer of timber and timber products. The ports in Oregon are full of raw logs being exported across the Pacific.
               The overexploitation of America’s forests has placed numerous species on the brink of extinction, dramatically increased wildfire risk, extensively spread noxious weeds, devastated commercial fisheries, created a sprawling, unmaintained road network, triggered deadly landslides, and exacerbated runaway climate change. This order is an affront to the billions of dollars spent by federal, state, and local entities to restore and repair the damage the timber industry has wrought in this country.
               Make no mistake, this executive order has a sole intention: to ramp up logging of our remaining mature and old-growth forests. Consequently, ongoing restoration work to abate wildfire risks, restore degraded ecosystems, recover imperiled species, and protect communities will wither.
               This reckless directive will be met with staunch opposition by Cascadia Wildlands and our conservation partners. In addition, we will double down on efforts to confront any corresponding advances to liquidate our treasured public forests under this administration. Communities across Cascadia cannot and will not tolerate such an ill-conceived backslide.
               Enraged? Let the White House know how you feel.

     • Duck on 03/07/2025 at 1:34 pm

       “……Trump, the motherfucker, is an incredibly evil force…”

       Trump is a face, the carving on the front of a ship. He is probably no more evil then Harris or the Clintons and or Biden and he is probably not much of a “force” of anything.

       The guy is very very very unlikely to be the ACTUAL “ sovereign “ who decides what happens…. The people running things ran rings around him on his first term and he is pretty much the avatar for the new elite trying to replace the old elite.

       Very few presidents are sovereign, Biden surely was not, and most of them exist just to hide who is actually in charge….. but the question is do you really think that Harris would make a better figure head?
       Would HER owners be an improvement over Trumps owners?

       “…he’s such an egregious, in-your-face, bastard, lying sonofabitch…”

       Yes, but do you think he is worse than Hillary Clinton? Or even Harris? Why?

       I don’t love the guy, but so far I’ll take him over the other lot but none of them is worth investing hatred into. Their just the damn muppets, not the muppeteers.

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       • candlelight on 03/08/2025 at 12:42 pm

         @Duck

         “Trump is a face, the carving on the front of a ship.”

         Please, oh please, Duck, don’t give that flaming narcissist any ideas!

         No, but you’re right, many a time, or most times, politicians tend to be, or become, muppets for the puppet masters. That includes Hillary and Joe and Kamala (though, Kamala really isn’t cut out of political cloth. She’s an amateur, for sure) In Trump’s case, those who may be pulling his strings may be those whose money helped him in his financial enterprises when banks and financial institutions were reluctant to give him any, e.g. after his failing Atlantic City casino enterprise, etc. Apparently, Trump somehow wound up with a lot of Russian oligarchy money backing him up, instead.

         How would somebody pay that back aside from money?

         Well, how about a nice, cozy, back-rubbing, sociopathic Trump/Putin bromance?

         Though Trump’s level of deceit is quite high on the charts, I try not to invest in hatred. It’s not really hatred I feel…it’s disgust.

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         • Duck on 03/08/2025 at 1:39 pm

           I don’t think Trumps masters are Russia…. As far as I can see he is shared between the Tech Bros, a Jewish faction , and IMO the Pentagon (the video linked goes thru 4 possible contenders)

           https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ncq5aDW8LAE

           I don’t think backing off Ukraine is a paid Russian opp- there is no way that it was winnable by the West and it was just powder keg waiting to explode. It’s also possible that the plan is to try to get friendly with the Russians to encircle the Chinese the way Nixon got the Chinese to turn on the soviets….the whole Russia hate thing is mostly driven by American Jews holding a grudge because the Tsar pogrom’d their grand pa back in the day.

           At the end of the day we don’t care as much about who Runs Ukraine as much as the Russians do. What I really don’t get is Europe going war crazy- it’s not like they or the Russians are in any state to fight with each other right now. What do you think?

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           • candlelight on 03/09/2025 at 8:40 am

             Russian money has been funneling into New York real estate via Trumpsky for some time now. If Trump has a master, it’s the Russians. I don’t think the tech oligarchy has anything on Trump, only that Trump loves! money. The more money the more he loves. So, sure, he’s going to surround himself with money makers, especially unscrupulous ones.

             Your video link didn’t seem terribly informative. Yeah, Tucker Carlson, part of a faction behind Trump? He’s another Putin fan-boy, for sure. Qatari money behind Trumpish, conservative talking heads – also why not? Jr.’s involved with Middle East deals, so it makes sense. The Pentagon? Your “Academic Agent” offered nothing about it except that it would seem an odd contradiction to be on the same page as Russian influencers. He basically left it as rumor-has-it.

             You certainly don’t have to be Jewish to hold a grudge against Russian thuggery. Or, have had your grand pa suffer in the Tsar’s secret police pogrom operations. You could be Christian. You could be Moldavian, or Polish, or Chech. I once spoke to a woman from the former Soviet Bloc – I forget exactly where – but she said people are fearful of Putin. She was fearful of Putin. And, that’s for the obvious reason that Putin has no restraints, whatsoever. He can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants. [Funnily, she had named her little pussy cat, Putin. That made me laugh.]

             You Say – “At the end of the day we don’t care as much about who Runs Ukraine…”

             Who’s “we”?

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             • Duck on 03/09/2025 at 11:56 am

               “…. He basically left it as rumor-has-it….”

               lol, that’s true, but to be fair he did say that’s what he was doing.

               “…. Who’s “we”….”

               Americans.

               For all the wailing about morality and international law and Ukrainian sovereignty the fact is that only a small number insane people are actually willing to fights REAL war over it.

               Sending men would require a draft, massive taxes and a wartime economy. Good luck getting Americans to agree to that for Ukraine.

               Sure we would LIKE ukraine on our side, but how many US lives are we willing to pay for it?? Not many

               On the other hand Russia HAS spent a lot of lives to get their way, because they can not let Ukraine be pat if NATO any more the then the US could allow missiles in Cuba….. it would literally put western nukes in range for a decapitation strike.

               When you look into it it becomes clear they were always going to win, because they will literally go nuke over it because they think their existence depends on winning.

               WE dont think it’s the end of the USA when Ukraine falls under Russian dominance.

               As to fear, YES, there is a lot of fear in Eastern Europe.

               Yes, Eastern Europe does have a Russia issue because they are the biggest power there. I expect that had the US not reduced Mexico to client status they would feel the same way about us and be begging China to send defense aid, or something like that.

               “…. You certainly don’t have to be Jewish to hold a grudge against Russian thugger….”

               Also true, but most non Jewish people don’t hold a grudge for generations…. I have some family stories about the Russians but I don’t feel the need to take it personally. I certainly am not willing to start an atomic war because someone hurt my great grandma.

               And to be fair according to Professor Spence ( “walk street and the Russian revolution “ ) the entire Russian Empire had a lower execution rate then the USA at the same period. You need to remember that the people telling the stories about pogroms and Tsarist brutality had rather a vested interest in how they told it. That’s not to say they were all above reproach, lol, but it’s kinda like hearing about A divorce from only one party of it. The real MASS brutality began with the Soviet take over.

               It’s not a matter how f morality…. It’s just that Russia is the big power there just like we are the big power in the Americas…. Big powers have a lot of say how neighboring little powers like Mexico or Ukraine do things.

   • cu.h.j on 03/07/2025 at 11:35 pm

     G,

     I’m glad you don’t hold a grudge against American’s for the decisions of the “rulers” I am a little surprised to hear that Canadian’s are so angry about this.

     It’s interesting to note the possible cultural influence here.

     As a side note, removing the booze is probably a good thing. If all the booze was removed it would be better. Not that I am for prohibition but alcohol is such a damaging chemical. It’s one of the methods used to control populations with addiction and mind poison.

     There have been a few studies in rats. I’ll post a link here. Inflammatory effects and increasing blood brain barrier damage.

     https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0009279721000363

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     • G on 03/08/2025 at 4:40 am

       @cu.h.j

       Ya I dunno if it is widespread, I just know a handful of peeps in my circles up here that are getting all wrapped up in the divide and conquer psyops.

       The idiocy of giving one’s loyalty to an entity that threatens one’s physical body if one does not pay them (for “services” one may or may not have any use for and may or may not want) and then boycotting businesses from some other region based on the orders of someone at the head of that criminal regime… just absurd.

       There are people getting all hyped up about boycotting all US businesses in a generalized way. Think about that in the context of someone living on the border lets say. They could theoretically be boycotting a regenerative farm a couple kilometers away from them because it happens to be on the other side of some invisible line that some scam artists with armed thugs thousands of kilometers away claim is “their territory and that you fall within it so that defines you as this —– nationalist title”.. misplacing their loyalty to these criminal syndicates that feed on them like parasites.. throwing the well being of their own bioregion under the bus and hurting people doing good work. But I digress…

       Ya you make a good point about alcohol in general. If it is anything more than a glass of an alcoholic beverage it is poison regardless of if it is organic and infused with herbs etc or not.

       I covered the detriments of regular and heavy alcohol consumption in this article :

       https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/neuroprotective-and-neuroregenerative-foods

       I explored various things (such as alcohol) that inhibit neurogenesis (what gets in the way of producing new neurons).

       Ya prohibition would be a mistake even if it prevented abuse in the short term, it would just create a new wave of Al Capones. Can you imagine rum running with today’s tech!? We would have autonomous drones flying moonshine over the border and dropping it with little parachutes and everything! 🙂

       It is worth noting that some forms of alcoholic beverages have the potential to offer nutritional and medicinal benefits (without causing cumulative neurological damage or inflammation in cells). There is a reason that many pre-statist cultures used it to preserve seasonal abundances of berries and fruit.

       For instance, wild fermented mead (and/or wild fermented organic sour ale) with herbs and berries is a great way to extract medicinal phytochemicals in a shelf stable format. One glass offers the medicinal compounds but not enough alcohol to damage the body/brain when intermittently enjoyed. Same for organic wine made from things like elderberries or dark colored grapes (though most vineyards are totally ecologically devastating).

       Wild fermented sour ale also has LAB so provides probiotic benefits (low alcohol, usually 3%-ish). Unfiltered Mead and wild fermented sour ale (with the fermentation sediment left in) also contains a solid amount of B-Vitamins from the “Lees” (dead yeast).

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   • Paul Cardin on 03/09/2025 at 9:59 pm

     Is this the long awaited beginning of the self-inflicted controlled demolition of the US Empire, followed hot on the heels by the controlled demolition of the EU and Western economies? Is Klaus Schwab stroking the little white pussycat in his Great Reset lap and sniggering as global, technocratic central government and banking takes a giant leap forward?

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2. Dicom69 on 03/07/2025 at 10:47 am

   Many thanks to James and James!

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3. Duck on 03/07/2025 at 11:22 am

   Ways to not suffer as much from tarriffs

   1) Get chickens…. 🙂
   2) Buy extra long term food (rice and beans are almost a whole food….) the good side is the US makes a lot of food, bad news being that it’s mostly commodity crap like corn for processing
   3) plant veg if you can.
   4) buy sprouting seeds so you can sprout lots of cheep salad years after you bought the seeds (I have never got beans to work… they Stink, but radishe and alfalfa are wonderful)

   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmXcaK6vf6c&pp=ygUNU3Byb3V0aW5nIGphcg%3D%3D

   5) look up Linux on YouTube (switched to Linux channels old vids we’re good) because it will let you run old computers for years after they won’t run windows. Learn to do your own tech support and I promise you that you will be able to do all your online stuff with a ten year old laptop just fine.
   6) get rid of your streaming service and replace it with an old PC or a Raspberry Pi4 running KODI…. Grab any Hollywood filth you need via pirating or buy old DVD’s for cheep. A Pi4 with Kodi will run an external DVD drive via usb or an external hard drive via usb.
   7) make sure your transport is in good shape, parts for motor cars may get expensive.
   8) get healthy so your not trying to get freshly tariffed insulin, lol.
   9) learn to be poor….poor people used to know all kinds of stuff about cooking and fixing clothes and stuff…..BUY proper SHOE GLUE because regular glue won’t last on footwear

   Most importantly

   make friends with people in the real world.

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4. I. Rose on 03/07/2025 at 11:52 am

   Watch out for “RE” words — favorite in academe since 2016 (maybe earlier)

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5. GROGDOGG52 on 03/08/2025 at 1:15 am

   Could tariffs be considered sanctioning? Wondering where the c i a is amidst all these goings on.

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6. generalbottlewasher on 03/08/2025 at 1:22 am

   Is it magic? Can you put 300 tons of gold bullion in a matchbox? Apparently you can.
   Fox News speaks to Cynthia Lummis committee chair about
   Is it a commodity or a security?

   https://youtu.be/520BtYaM648

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7. ejdoyle on 03/08/2025 at 2:47 am

   “The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.”
   – James Madison
   – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
   “Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.”
   – Adolf Hitler
   – – – – – – – – – – – – –
   “We don’t learn from war; we repeat it. We don’t prevent war; we perfect it.”
   – Heather Mallick
   – – – – – – – – – – – – –
   There are two supporting groups comprising all sorts of institutions and organizations.
   The group supporting the supply of war goods and services.
   And the group supporting the creation of demand for war goods and services.
   In the U.S. 40 major war corporations have annual sales of almost $600 billion.
   https://www.globalresearch.ca/americas-perpetual-war-six-questions/5822008
   – – – – – – – – – – – – –
   “Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear…in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor with the cry of grave national emergency.
   Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it.”
   – General Douglas Macarthur, 1957
   – – – – – – – – – – – – –
   DEMONS AND REDEMPTION (song)
   https://old.bitchute.com/video/KpjG7MeRUc9z/

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8. mkey on 03/09/2025 at 11:10 pm

   Let me tell you a short story of trickle down technocracy.

   A few days ago, due to a temporary loss of common sense, I was updating some applications on my old degoogled android phone. I keep this phone on the side for the purposes of having banking and quasi banking applications on it. This phone is not screen locked (as a matter of my private choice and at my leisure and full responsibility) and is kept in relative safety of my home.

   The quasi banking application, the object of this story, is revolut. I use it for purposes of having near instantaneous access to disposable debit/credit cards. I typically postpone updating said application because they introduce new impositions on regular basis. And also because my degoogled phone did not meet their criteria in the past.

   Anyhow, after this recent update (starting with November 2024) they started mandating the following:

   #1 No rooted phones (this was forbidden a while back). This essentially means “no, you do not own your device”. Due to security concerns, of course.

   There are relatively technically involved solutions to this issue. People who know how to root their device will likely find it very easy to circumvent this imposition.

   #2 No “custom ROMs”. This essentially means “f*ck you and your degoogled phone”. Due to security concerns, of course.

   Because having a relatively ancient googled android phone that hasn’t received software and SECURITY updates in the better part of a decade is all fine and dandy. Having a more modern and up to date Lineage OS (or some custom ROM installed) with a lot more recent SECURITY updates included is no good, no good at all. Due to security concerns, of course.

   Less secure is more secure, in newspeak. The old is better than new, as long as they say so.

   #3 You have to use “biometrics” to lock your phone to be able to use the application. Which requires a pin of it’s own, anyway.

   You can opt (for how long?) to use a pattern or a pin code (used to be 4 characters, 6 seems to have become the new norm). People like using their fingerprint to unlock the device. It’s easy and, as pure chance would have it, seems quite unsafe. This method is relatively unreliable. People also like to use their face to unlock the device. Very convenient, you never leave your house without it.

   I am confident that soon enough we are going to have an option to sync the unlock phone feature with our rectal probe. Unclench to unlock, because “clenched 99,9% of the time” is certainly going to be a requirement, if we are being honest about it. So, why not relax a bit, kick it back and fondle your fondle slab for a while, while looking for some respite and commiseration.

   When this thing becomes the norm, remember where you read about it first – the Corbett Report Comments Section.

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   • mkey on 03/09/2025 at 11:15 pm

     A 6 digit pin with 5 tries to input the correct pin means 5/1.000.000 chance that someone may get into your application by guessing. This is certainly safe enough for my understanding, but having that option has been removed from the table.

     Not to even mention that, if you have the application installed on your rooted/custom ROM device, you are pretty much committed to such a scenario, and post update you will be not even allowed to access your funds, until you comply with the requirements. You don’t get any warnings, you only get the new criteria.

     There are technical solutions to this issue (with a lot of YMMV), but they are likely only temporary in nature (as future updates are likely to break and force more and more things) and certainly technically complex. 99% won’t bother with any of it, they will just gulp down whatever is forced down their gullet.

     While looking for other people’s experiences online, one soon realizes there are plenty (to bewilderment of absolutely nobody) of “rah rah” buffoons screaming at people for not obeying the security standard as it has been forced upon them by the higher authority. They completely fail to grasp that people have their personal preferences and that is exactly what application preferences are designed to cater to.

     One commenter shared his professional experience when working on developing various mobile applications, stating that there was likely an “external auditor” that “forced” this company to impose the stated limitations on their millions of users. Which makes me think how globalization and technocratic control makes a lot of progress by hiding behind these “third party” entities, that seem to have an immense reach.

     When we break down this particular issue, I have noticed that the revolut company has caused a bit of an uproar over the pin issue and has even refunded the monthly/yearly subscriptions for their premium customers. So it appears the pin issue takes precedence over their bottom line, even if the refund requests were likely less than a common occurrence.

     I am having difficulty believing they are scared of legal proceedings due to users who have suffered some monetary losses due to “lacking security”. How difficult could it be to prove in a court of law that the user turned off the pins and as a result was robbed? I don’t think the company would care about these occurrences, regardless of how common they are (I would wager not common at all).

     All of this essentially boils down to digital communism. No options for the plebs, you are stupid (we know because we invested a lot over the decades to make you as stupid as possible) and you are going to do as we say. Or else.

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9. Chadders on 03/10/2025 at 3:21 am

   I’ve got to mention my ‘claim to fame’ after this one. Being from Sheffield myself I was in a band in the 80s and we supported Pulp at Sheffield Uni. This was before they were BIG! After party – if you can call it that – was at Jarvis’s rented flat where he DJ’d singles using a shitty plug in mic, on a ‘music centre’ where you could stack 45s so they dropped down on top of each other. Russell from Pulp played violin on one of our demo tapes and his sister married our singer who ended up joining Pulp as bassist (but was then booted and replaced by Rob Mackie RIP). Good old days – thanks for reminding me. 🙂

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