They Live – FLNWO #18

by | Aug 19, 2014 | Film, Literature & The New World Order | 24 comments

This month on Film, Literature and the New World Order, James talks to Guillermo Jimenez of about “They Live,” John Carpenter’s surprisingly prescient 1988 film about a society hypnotized and controlled by an alien species that cannot be seen directly. We discuss the film as a metaphor for the modern day “truth movement” viewpoint of a world controlled by a conspiratorial ruling elite, and what that metaphor can teach us about rebellion and resistance to the system as it exists.

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  1. I watched it due to having seen Icke talk about it in one of his ‘shows’

  2. Hi James,

    Patrick from London here. In reference to V the tv series and its origins, they are claiming (from the bastion of truth wikKa-pedia):-
    Inspired by Sinclair Lewis’ anti-fascist novel It Can’t Happen Here (1935), director–producer Kenneth Johnson wrote an adaptation titled Storm Warnings, in 1982. The script was presented to NBC for production as a television mini-series, but the NBC executives rejected the initial version, claiming it was too “cerebral” for the average American viewer. To make the script more marketable, the American fascists were re-cast as man-eating extraterrestrials, taking the story into the realm of science fiction to capitalize on the popularity of science-fiction franchises such as Star Wars. V, which cost $13 million ($31,000,000 today) to make,[1] premiered on May 1, 1983.[2][3]

    so i looked at the novel:- – the novel describes the rise of Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip, a populist United States Senator who is elected to the Presidency after promising drastic economic and social reforms while promoting a return to patriotism and traditional values. After his election, Windrip takes complete control of the government and imposes totalitarian rule with the help of a ruthless paramilitary force, in the manner of Adolf Hitler and the SS. The novel’s plot centers around journalist Doremus Jessup’s opposition to the new regime and his subsequent struggle against it.


    I believe Icke was well trained via the BBC with all the correct ‘BUZZ’ words ….take care

  3. Thanks for the message, JM, and sorry for any confusion in what I said in this podcast. Just to be clear, I absolutely do not subscribe to the idea that there is a literal reptilian elite and I am absolutely uninterested in having proponents of this theory on the podcast.

  4. “I got a wife and kids and dont want to know the truth…”

    The way I have heard it is “I’m too busy working to wonder why I am poor or my savings and pensions are evaporating…”

    This movie reminds me of ‘wag the dog’ in that it talked about serious topics that 95% of people at the time they came out could really not relate to or understand due to the control of information and news , the interruption of which we have been privileged to live thru.

  5. I definitely missed this podcast. Very good work James. I first watched this movie when I was child and was afraid to look at the aliens lol. I definitely did not understand the meaning behind it.

    I then watched this again in my early 20’s and although the acting was terrible, the movie is good and the message hit me and I’m not even sure if it hit me the way Carpenter intended it. But most of the metaphors and symbology apply to our everyday life.

  6. The skull MAY mean nihlism in the sense that an initiate might be shown a pair of skulls and asked “who is the king who is the beggar?” which MIGHT mean that you may as well grab and enjoy what you can in life since when you die you “sleep eternally” which was (allegedly by Nesta Webster) an Illuminati doctrine from the beginning.

    The purple likely means “royalty” or ruler in the flesh (if it has a specific meaning) because purple was a very expensive dye color only royals were allowed to wear in the ancient world, Roman senators would have a purple stripe to mark their rank but only the Roman Emperor could wear a purple robe

    • @Duck

      I think you may be onto something there with the symbolization of the color purple… (that is, if the writers actually intended to symbolize anything with that)


      Why Don’t Country Flags Use The Color Purple? (by After Skool) :

  7. Backtracking since the re-release of the “Contagion” episode. I didn’t hear mention of “Hofmann lenses” as the ‘sunglasses’ in the film are referred to. Although not written out as per spelling, I am inclined to think this refers to Albert Hofmann, the “Swiss chemist known best for being the first known person to synthesize, ingest, and learn of the psychedelic effects of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD).”
    Personal experiences could accurately be described as analogous to ‘glasses’ that facilitate altered perceptions which reveal ‘deeper’ truths which remain ‘unseen’ by those without those “Hofmann lenses”.
    While, in my experience, the vivid interwoven “colors” of nature are wonderfully and beautifully magnified, the ‘black’n’white’ of “civilized” constructs is relentless and fatiguing, similar as described when ‘wearing the glasses too long’.
    A possible outcome of the use of “Hofmann lenses” is that THAT perception can be permanent, but no one sees ‘glasses’ on your face. These “lenses” are internal, and, for some, cannot be removed once ‘put on’.

  8. Joe Bob Briggs interviews guest Rowdy Roddy Piper on TNT’s Monstervision during the showing of “They Live” and “Immortal Combat”
    (32 minutes of an enjoyable conversation)
    At the 9:45 minute mark of the interview, Rowdy Roddy Piper says the famous line:
    “I come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I’m all out of bubblegum.”
    Piper goes on to explain that John Carpenter had nothing written for that scene at the bank. Rowdy made the line up on the spot. He had been chewing bubblegum and spit it out right prior to the scene.

    For those who don’t know, Joe Bob Briggs originally spawned from North Texas and got into all kinds of trouble with his writing. Somewhere probably over 3 decades ago, I used to read his newspaper articles. This was back in the days prior to his TV era, and in my opinion that was some of his best work.
    Repeatedly on the Threads, I have pestered people with my comments about Joe Bob Briggs.

    Joe Bob Briggs, under his given name, John Bloom, also co-wrote the nonfiction book ”Evidence of Love: The Candy Montgomery Story” (1984).
    The book recounts the 1980 Wylie, Texas, murder case in which Montgomery killed her ex-lover’s wife, Betty Gore, by striking her a total of 41 times with an ax and whose highly publicized trial ended in an unexpected “not guilty” verdict.
    The book was made into the CBS television film “A Killing in a Small Town” (1990).
    My wife (ex) enjoyed reading true crime books, and around this period she made mention of what a fine piece of reading it was.

    Circa 1991, John Bloom writes this article The Last Drive-In | A Joe Bob Original: How to be a Writer
    It is well worth the short read.

    This brings me back to Corbett Report Members…
    I will bet anyone a genuine “Free Drive-in Movie Pass Wooden Token”, that John Bloom has been a member of the Corbett Report.
    See Corbett Report Member mrbloom here, and notice the subtle wit and also his remark ”The solution is small communities coming together and ignoring these freaks. “.

  9. Here is a link to a music video where a musician did a bit of a shout out to They Live with the visuals/lyrics. Instead of just portraying a set of magical sun glasses that let the wearer see through the lies, the story also hints that one can cultivate an innate ability to see through the lies and propaganda by looking within.

    Dub FX • Fake Paradise :

    Some of the lyrics include:

    “Coming up to the final frontier
    Babylon pushing on all that fear
    So let’s get a hold of what we got here
    Everybody gather round cos i got an idea
    It may be bold to know but it’s clear
    The zombie nation is approaching near
    I’m walking through this fake paradise a fake paradise..

    ..Sometimes I’m feeling so tempted
    To let myself be misdirected
    By all the lies of what them said
    No… i just listen to my soul
    I’m walking through this fake paradise
    A fake paradise..

    ..I will always hear what you say
    I will never stand in your way
    I can always tell if your wise
    I can see your soul with my third eye
    I don’t need to hear what they say
    Im not in those games that they play
    I can always see through the lies
    I can see the world through my third eye”

    • I`ll share a couple more recent tracks by Dub FX as well as they pertain to the Covid 1984 tyranny.

      First up:

      ?????? ?? • ??? ??

      “Walking down the road
      People looking at me like a criminal
      Followed by a drone
      Living in lockdown can’t leave my zone
      It’s getting hot as hell
      Earth burning up underneath a spell
      And I can’t read the news
      So many lies and too many blues
      I’m feeling for the youth
      It’s time to rebuild and remove those fools
      It’s time to change the game
      No matter who you vote it just stays the same
      It’s time to pray again
      Fighting for the end game, we are going insane
      I could never refrain from telling you
      There’s something in the water
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      I’ll see you in the street yo I’m telling you
      Politics are getting mixed up
      It’s time to put your fist up
      I’m a keep on saying what I’ve been saying
      Now the clock is ticking
      It’s like the room is spinning
      The waters rising im advising that we start swimming.
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      ?’? ??? ???? ??????????
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      So I’m a keep on singing loud to my crowd
      It don’t matter if you’re left or right fight for your children
      Walking down the road
      People looking at me like a criminal
      Followed by a drone
      Living in lockdown can’t leave my zone..


      • (..continued from above)

        ..??? ? ???’? ???? ??? ????
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        It’s time to pray again but why won’t she answer me tell me now
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        And if I see you on the fence i won’t hesitate
        To speak my truth to your heart I wanna educate
        It’s always been my mission from the beginning
        to bring a lyrical rhythm of consciousness yo this is my fate
        I spread my truth and eliminate
        The negative frequency that they generate
        They get in your mind and try to decimate
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        Walking down the road
        People looking at me like a criminal
        Followed by a drone
        Living in lockdown can’t leave my zone
        It’s getting hot as hell
        Earth burning up underneath a spell
        So Im’a pray to God but why won’t she answer me tell me now
        And I can’t read the news
        So many lies and too many blues
        I’m feeling for the youth
        It’s time to rebuild and remove those fools
        It’s time to change the game
        No matter who you vote it just stays the same
        It’s time to pray again”

  10. and last but not least:

    ??? – Dub FX (ft. Jah Tung & Steppa Style)

    “Me nah trust none of dem inoculation
    Chemotherapy and dem radiation
    Whether it a microwave or a microchip
    Dem better stay far from my location..

    ..Look how dem put we inna curfew
    Another excuse for police dem search you..

    ..That’s why the rastaman strong and we self-reliant
    Dem indoctrinate but we stand defiant..

    ..Just let me build my immunity
    Contribute towards my community..

    Dub fx:

    Im not a part of that zombie nation
    I don’t feed off no lies or misinformation
    Them spreading propaganda through education
    And mass fear psychological operations

    Mk ultra ripping up your mind like a vulture
    Stimulating minds with a abuse
    Them changing up the culture
    So they can control ya
    A new world order that they introduce

    They wanna convert you
    Shake you up down and hurt you
    They wanna push you round and hurt you
    So I’m a refer too the media that’s trying to disturb you
    So open up your mind I urge you

    Well in this riddim I will plant a seed
    Now you’re ready for action and you’re ready to lead
    Them come with distractions to make you need
    But dissatisfaction is guaranteed

    Them bad minds always trying to take control
    They out in the streets and them on patrol
    Monopolization is their only goal
    Them keep us asleep so we don’t overthrow..”

    • Here is a quote from an interview with one of the guys that was in the song I posted above (I am not really a fan of the style of music, but I admire them for trying to get the truth out through their own type of artistic expression).

      Jah Tung’s insights on NWO:

      “I wrote my lyrics for this track in the middle of the lockdowns, which in Melbourne, were the longest in the world, spanning 262 days, with quite intense and unreasonable restrictions and legislation. Upholding my integrity and discipline as a natural and sovereign being, and encouraged by large groups of protests and resistance to the regime, I was inspired to share this message, not only to chant down the system and act as a voice for the voiceless, but also to offer some perspective and help break some of the misconceptions and presumptions held against those resisting unreasonable governance. My lyrics were written from what Rastafari call “overstanding” and looking at the broader picture and the full spectrum of the pandemic’s impact, from political, social and spiritual context, to biological, mental and even the financial implications. The ‘twinkle twinkle’ reference at the end is a “Tung in cheek” jibe at the indoctrination and brainwashing of the public through propaganda and repetitive catch phrases and visuals. Ironically, a few years ago, ‘the New World Order’ was a phrase used almost exclusively by supposed ‘conspiracy theorists’, yet suddenly during the Covid pandemic, the phrase is proudly flaunted by politicians, media and authorities everywhere around the world.”

      • ( ps – I did not create the image above and think it could have been done better.)

        Hey! Maybe James Corbett and Broc West could do a high-res, more accurate and well articulated graphic (or video/episode?) that shows the “sustainable development goals” and other technocratic propaganda (as seen through the ‘they live glasses’) ? 😉

  11. I have yet another video that offers a shout out to They Live. Man I am on a roll with these!

    This one has a guy walking around the streets of Vancouver looking through the old ‘they live glasses’ at the Scamdemic era propaganda

    I threw that video together back when they first started rolling out the injections for kids thinking I would hopefully help some people to think before injecting them with the genetic goo bioweapons but then after several failed attempts uploading it to various platforms I forgot about it until the other day.

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