What I Learned From the “PropOrNot” Propaganda List

by | Nov 27, 2016 | Videos | 62 comments

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Yes, corbettreport.com has made this new, mysterious, anonymously-authored “propaganda list” of websites to watch out for in the era of #FakeNews and Russians under every rock. And yes, the list is as ridiculous as that sounds. Join me today as I look into the latest pathetic attempt by a flailing establishment to bolster their discredited mouthpiece media organs and counter the ascendant alternative media. (Spoiler: they’re going to lose this battle as well.)

Is It Propaganda Or Not?

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Sibel Edmonds Explains The Erdogan Takedown

Eliot Higgins: I have no idea who these guys are!

Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say

PropOrNot subreddit (serious posts only please, folks!)

Reddit CEO admits he secretly edited comments from Donald Trump supporters


Faking It: How the Media Manipulates the World into War

Psyops 101: A brief history of fake news

Media Lies While Syrians Die: Media Disinformation and the Syrian War

MSM Syria Lies Need to Be Exposed

Episode 283 – Solutions: Make Your Own Media


  1. Jaime,
    You are right…Really funny!.
    This could also be in the CorbettReport “Just For Fun” section.

    • While it certainly fits int the “Just For Fun” section, I think it’s also important to seriously jump on this opportunity.

      “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” ~ misattributed to Mahatma Gandhi. http://www.snopes.com/first-they-ignore-you/

      (Side note: As much as I crap on Wikipedia for censorship, at least it seems recently Wikiquotes has been cleaning house properly, with some to go.)

      They’ve ignored revisionist alt-history truther fake news and now they’re laughing/fighting.

      We need to make serious efforts to get “James Corbett (journalist)” on Wikipedia. We need mainstream references and citations.

      Please add to and/or edit these:

      • So I’ve updated both of those articles to be nearly identical (RationalWiki requires code modification to link to Wikipedia, plus they like to add “goat” with is their version of humour/sarcasm.)

        I submitted the Wikipedia article draft for “James Corbett (journalist)” because I assumed it would be rejected the same day, like last time. I don’t know if it’s because this is a RE-submission or because they’re too busy cleaning (censoring) house but it says they’re backed up and it could take 2-3 weeks because they are highly backlogged. (Maybe they shouldn’t have alienated everyone.)

        Of note I also discovered the Sibel Edmonds Wikipedia article contributions I made in May were all reverted that day, unbeknown to me. I guess they are watching her closely. I had added material about NewsBud. I admit that not all of my 6 edits were perfected but they should have been selectively edited rather than all reverted. Today I restored, edited and reworked it. Sibel’s article had no mention of NewsBud other than my May blip and what I threw in today. We’ll see how long it lasts.

        I implore you all to take a look at these and fix anything you see needing improvement.

        If you see something say something.

        • One final note for today that I found curious but don’t know if they are of consequence.

          From your video show notes links above:

          November 24:

          November 27:

          Aside from the dates being different there is another degree of separation:

          Wikipedia is severe about their rules of what is allowed. Synthesis is not allowed. For example, Afghanistan was invaded, Afghanistan has lithium, to connect the two is synthesis and to include it on Wikipedia needs mainstream media specifically articulating that synthesis.

          The Washington Post article doesn’t mention The Corbett Report so it doesn’t exist to Wikipedia. The Washington Post article links to the PropOrNot PDF which might be nice if it mentioned The Corbett Report. Unfortunately it does not directly link to the list on the homepage, therefore the MSM and Wikipedia have not officially acknowledged the existence of The Corbett Report.

          This is the wall of “fringe” bullshit that protects Wikipedia.

          Sorry for all my spam today if you don’t like it. I promise I won’t get triggered like this very often.

          Also, FYI, I am not a member of Skull & Bones, though I do like some ideas of the Pirate Party. The pixel cutsie skull and bones with headphones I designed after going to a party thrown by some DJs with a shitty logo I improved upon.

  2. Let me say this, RT is just as much a propaganda tool for Russia as CNN is for the US.

    Also, isn’t kinda telling that Alex Jones, a pro Trump “alt media” personality, hired RT’s Margaret Howell?

    • Alexis Joneski hired Margaret Howell because she met the Infowars criteria — she’s hot. Its a simple formula.

    • Maybe that’s true. But RT doesn’t seem to mind it’s anchors not toeing the pro Russia line, looking at many comments Abby Martin made during her time there. I don’t think CNN allows their talking heads that level of freedom. Also, RT may well gloss over Russia’s problems (I wouldn’t know living in the US), but they seem relatively accurate where US politics are concerned. Which is totally opposite of CNN’s modus operandi in which most of their Russian news is either easily identifiable as propaganda or at best, warped to cast Russia in the poorest light possible.

      Of course I could be wrong. My access to Russian news is limited..

  3. What a dastardly thing for Russia to do. The United States and it’s media partners would never try to change the outcome of elections in other countries! OHHHH WAIT, yes they do. It’s called information warfare, the U.S. have entire divisions in the military doing the same thing as the Russians interviewed by Samantha.


    The ridiculous hypocrisy of this whole idea amazes me. The really funny thing? I am sure alphabet agencies, different sections of the armed forces, and NGO’s fund competing propaganda narratives both in the U.S. and abroad.
    The crap coming out of the U.S. is pretty low quality because the corporate and government minions can always fall back on good old fashion tactics like bombing infrastructure, assassination, economic sanctions(siege starving), and arming crazy opposition groups with good old American made weapons like sarin gas and anti tank missiles!

    Thank whatever gods you believe in for open source journalism. IF you don’t believe in any gods then just thank people like James. (Ideally with some fiat currency)

  4. Bizarre, laughable, untrue but not unexpected.

    The surveillance state’s MSM mouthpiece is testing the waters to find an exact combination of lies they can sell the public. Mission: retain the remaining MSM believers; recover the less educated of the alt-news viewers–likely those who woke-up after the election debacle–and disburse the unrecoverable.

    As stupid as it appears to be, I would not dismiss the site’s propaganda so easily. It represents the thought police with a clear message: If you think for yourself you are a Russian/Putin sympathizer–once called a communist sympathizer. The site has that flavor of McCarthyism and the blacklisting of the 50’s. It’s an attempt to revive an oldy-but-goody that worked in the past. It’s a new generation. It may work again! If the message sticks, you’ll see more “respectability” of thought talk in the MSM. Yes, it’s funny or silly to Corbett subscribers but it is a fascist message. The younger generations may not comprehend how ridiculous talk, such as on the Prop site, can quickly become real life horror if so-called authorities take up the banner. I think the MSM is desperate. Their very survival is at stake and a wounded animal is dangerous.

    As we know, people thinking for themselves represents a loss of control for the MSM. Driving a wedge into the public mind is the only option. Certainly, the Prop site is not for the people who subscribe herein. It’s for the general public who believe they get real news from MSM. These are the under-educated and uneducated who are easily led.

    I forget. How many marketing contacts does it take these days to produce a sale? Is it twelve, fifteen? The perps will determine if traction can be achieved from such a fascist angle and proceed accordingly. We’ll see.

    • Yes, completely agree. As a group, I’d call them ineducable due to confusion and fear.

      Those in academia (vast majority) more fiercely support the status quo than most any group I’ve been associated with in my lifetime. I spent several years working in a university system and married to a quite brilliant professor whom I admired. My experience bore out that intellectuals will profess openness of mind and teach it but, in reality, fear change. They operate inside a box called academia–a box of their choosing. There is no upward mobility inherent in the system so conformity is paramount. And, someone has to drop dead before any change occurs. Whether a person actively teaches in an educational system or is government funded to profess certain facts they are so wrapped up in their own complex explanations of the world they have no grasp of the mundane–everyday living. I see this as the primary reason academicians choose to dissect life rather than be intimately involved in it. This is not a bad thing, everyone has a path. However, being stuck inside your head battling both sides of the argument when good and evil are not academic questions makes them useless in this and most real life situations where action of thought and practice must come together. Basically, they become obstructive in a real fight.

  5. “Atheistic concepts”? Really??

    • Sorry. My bad. Perhaps I was projecting or hoping. I should have said “skeptic concepts” or “cutting through dogmas”.

      I know James Corbett is an atheist not only because is it logical but because years ago I was annoyed at him at the time for saying something to the effect that he didn’t wish to bother with debunking fantasies and his primary interest and expertise is geopolitics. It makes more sense now. Arguing against circular logic of religion is like arguing with a wall, and you don’t want to waste your time doing that.

        • Oh no. I feel like I just kicked myself in my own groin.

          I think I missed it. I’m still not clear. I understand how your work is about “love” (especially if you apply Mark Passio’s Natural Law definition of “love”, though you didn’t say that), but I missed your beliefs defined. Perhaps your Christmas underwear distracted me. Was there more than that part at 56m you state that consciousness is not quantifiable and might not die.

          That makes me a little sad. (As a person with bipolar who’s experienced far more than just the spectrum between sleep and wakefulness across decades, as well as recently witnessing the slow degradation of mind and death of my grandmother, I firmly believe that consciousness is truly mysterious but we are all just complicated meat machines that are remarkably robust yet fragile and susceptible to a wide array of hiccups until we ultimately wear out.)

          I’d seen that video before today, but I’m thinking of another video with a man discussing atheist/agnostic ideas, I think. Now I don’t know what I know. Most atheists are actually agnostics who cannot prove that God does not exist and I think you might have stated you were agnostic. Regardless I don’t want to debate you about what you believe or have you waste time digging through the archive for me.

          Ultimately I don’t remember (I may have unnecessarily subbed atheist for agnostic for the layman) but I guess it’s safe to say that the matter should be deleted from the wiki.

          The wiki article actually started with a search on Wikipedia for you, as I often used to do before this summer’s Wikipedia censorship disillusionment. You were not even listed on the disambiguation page listing all of the “note worthy” James Corbett’s through history:

          In a case like this I usually would tidy up the page formatting or chronological order if necessary and add the name and the brief description. I struggled to get as much information into that one line as possible because you cover and do so much in so much depth, and admittedly, I didn’t want to go through the whole ordeal/process of creating a new article.

          On April 6 2016:
          “James Corbett (journalist), a voluntaryist / agorist / libertarian / anarchist / anti-stateist, atheist, Truther, open source, indie new-journalist on YouTube and CorbettReport.com contextualizing disinformation propaganda, false flag conspiracies, psy-ops, black-ops, and the covert deep-state secret ghost politics’ globalist control and domination agendas of the New World Order advocating a “revolution of the mind” to counter cultural brainwashing dogmas to ultimately foil all centralized governments’ monopolistic use of violence.”

          I knew it wouldn’t last but hoped someone else would take it and make it into a legit article. They often “clean up” and delete anyone without an article. I restored it, it got deleted, I restored it, then truncated it to simply “James Corbett (journalist)”.

          On May 19 2016 I had my first article draft rejected but I changed the disambiguation page link to “James Corbett (journalist) analyzes, deconstructs, and re-contextualizes Western propaganda”.

          I continued on the draft here an there but was also loosing faith in Wikipedia on the 9/11 Truth movement page against status quo guard dogs. By August I’d given up on Wikipedia – and by default the draft.

          On August 13 2016 “James Corbett (journalist) analyzes, deconstructs, and re-contextualizes Western propaganda” was changed to “James Corbett (conspiracy theorist)” but they didn’t write an article.

          On October 2 2016 “James Corbett (conspiracy theorist)” was deleted as cleanup per WP:MOSDAB (Wikipedia-ese for Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages).

          This “prop or not” list of “fake news” and any mainstream media articles (PLEASE let me know about them), could be the “legitimizing” wedge into Wikipedia. Once on Wikipedia we can continue to hammer against the watchdogs (and their odious rules rigged against truthers) for eyes and awareness in the wider populous. Spreading this “good word” is important for countless reasons you already know.

          Obviously I’m not a journalist, however I have extensive experience in advertising and filmmaking and promotion.

          Thank you for enduring this length. I won’t always be so verbose.

  6. I kind of expected this to be a spoof site, but obviously not. These people mean business. LOL

    • Maybe. But their “proof” for NaturalNews being pro Russia, two links, one going to Snoops (lol). And the other is Putin saying they don’t push gmo’s or the huge amounts of untested vaccines on Russia’s population. Pretty sketchy “proof” that smacks of Monsanto boot licking more then a real study of NaturalNews’s geopolitical position.

      Their “proof” of James’ Russian love (lol) is equally nonsensical. It seems to me.

      I’m feeling that prop or not is some kind of rushed, Ill thought out attempt to paint any site that’s not establishment friendly as being pro Russian.

  7. Wow! Well done, blunder.

    So who are this cast of characters behind Cybersponse? Some that just leap out are:

    Lt. Gen. Rhett A. Hernandez (ret.) Former Commander US Army Cyber Command

    Joel Brenner, Esq. Counterintelligence & Cyber Expert Former NSA Inspector General

    Robert D. Rodriguez Chairman and Founder Security Innovation Network (SINET)
    What is SINET and why is it supported by the Dept. of Homeland Security???

    Our Mission:
    We believe that effective Cybersecurity is required to facilitate economic growth, protect critical infrastructure and maintain political stability. To accomplish this objective, SINET is dedicated to building a cohesive, worldwide Cybersecurity community with the goal of accelerating innovation through collaboration. SINET is a catalyst that connects senior level private and government security professionals with solution providers, buyers, researchers and investors. SINET sponsors highly interactive networking sessions designed to:
    * Introduce leading innovators in the Cybersecurity industry
    * Encourage collaboration by breaking down communication barriers
    * Facilitate high level sharing of ideas and best practices vital to the strengthening and accelerating Cybersecurity innovations.

    SINET Programs in NY, WDC, Silicon Valley and London are Supported by DHS, Science & Technology Directorate.

    Check out his bio: http://la.cybertechconference.com/content/robert-d-rodriguez
    Formerly US Secret Service, works with DHS, UK Government, Australian Government, US Air Force, etc. “He has been called upon numerous times by Federal Government Agencies to help advise and build private sector outreach initiatives with corporations, the entrepreneurial and venture capital communities” Just the guy to call to “maintain political stability” when the Main Stream misinformation networks have discredited themselves.

    And the Cybersponse Chairman, Founder, and CEO – Joseph Loomis
    (Mr. Corporate Brand Protection)

    “Mr. Loomis was previously the founder & CEO of Net Enforcers, a private online security company focused on counterfeit and corporate brand protection technology services … A formally licensed Private Investigator, Mr. Loomis is also a cooperative member with the FBI and DEA’s divisions on Cybercrime.”


    Originally a US Navy Officer Candidate with a focus on crypto, electronics, computer networking and advanced communications.

    This link connecting him as a member of SINET seems to have been removed:

    CyberSponse seems to be a fairly new (2012) startup company located in Phoenix AZ that seems to have recently and suddenly attracted heavy hitter talent and investment:

    All I can say is there is enough spooks at Cybersponse they could make extra money renting themselves out as a Halloween Haunted House.

  8. If you are logged in reading this, then the prop or not site is funny. If, however, you are reading from the thier website after viewing some glimmer of truth after your friend told you to watch this video on 9/11 or sandy hook, then sad really sad.

  9. I appreciate the attempted sleuthing here, but I’m afraid what you uncovered is the business address that Domains By Proxy uses for their registrations. For those who don’t know, Domains By Proxy is a business that allows people to register a website without putting their personal address and contact details up there for the entire internet to see, so all of the info in a DBP registration are DBP corporate details, and will appear on every site registered with them, including (duh duh duhhhh)


    Now the idea that DBP is tied into a shady NSA and gov-connected corp like cybersponse is not surprising to me, but it doesn’t tell us anything about PropOrNot.

    • Actually, James, that address is NOT the business address of Domains by Proxy.

      Here is the Arizona Corporation Commission report for Domains by Proxy, LLC.

      To make a long story short, if you follow the connections from the report this corporation is owned by Special Domains Services at 14455 N HAYDEN RD STE 219 SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85206 – which is owned by Go Daddy Holding Company at the same address.

      These offices are just up the road from 14747 N Northsight.

      Go Daddy is heavily connected to the Surveillance State and the US spook agencies. I learned a lot about them when I got to know Christine Jones, one of the Go Daddy founders and former Go Daddy lawyer, during her 2012 run for AZ Governor. I was a muckymuck in the AZ Republican Party back then. We worked together on data mining targeting plans for the Get Out the Vote efforts and became friends.

      But back to that 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111 address. 14747 N Nightsight is a strip mall with many suites. Suite 111 is an office suite listed by at least 3 companies – the UPS Store, DBP (Go Daddy), and CyberSponse.

      The ICANN record 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Scottsdale AZ is perhaps a postal box (PMB 309) or postal forwarding service for DBP. It may or may not be at the UPS Store at that address which provides those services. It may or may not be at DBP if they actually share offices there.

      Perhaps it is one of those office suites that share a common lobby and receptionist for several companies. But I know that CyberSponse, LLC and Cybersponse Federal, LLC do have a physical address at 14747 N NORTHSIGHT BLVD SUITE 111-115 because of their Corporation Commission filing:
      (Statutory Agents MUST list their physical address so they can be served if the company is sued)

      All that said, I agree that just the address is not enough to make a firm connection to PropOrNot. Way to flimsy, and does not tell us who the actual owner of PropOrNot is. But there are too many coincidences and odd connections to ignore. It is just a beginning point of investigation, although it may prove to be a dead end.

      I am 160 km from there but I have several friends who are liberty activists living close to that location. I will have someone physically check out that address and who really has offices there this week.

      Also, based on other connections I have found but not fully vetted yet I am beginning to suspect more of a connection between CyberSponse and Go Daddy. Oh – did I mention that Cybersponse just raised $3.86 Million venture funding in a undisclosed private placement offering?

      • Actually, Paul, I said that it was DBP’s “business address that they use for registrations.” It is on literally every single one of the (presumably tens of thousands) of websites registered via DBP, including The Corbett Report. Again, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if there was a GoDaddy/DBP/deep state connection, but again this tells us nothing at all about PropOrNot.

        • You are correct, James. They do use that address on all the registrations, and it does not tell us anything about who PropOrNot is.

          I do intend to keep investigating connections on GoDaddy and Cybersponse. It probably has nothing to do with ProporNot but my “spidy sense” is tingling that there is something not in our best interests to find here. I will keep my research quiet until I find where it leads and if it does lead anywhere I will let you know.

          And, James, congrats on making the top 10 Hall of Fame list. Obviously you are doing something right when you are listed as a Major Source! LOL

          • Hmmm…well, speaking of leads I just received this from a listener:

            “Did you notice that prop or not has a Chrome extension? And that the developer’s address is 530-B Harkle Road, STE 100, Santa Fe, NM, 87505? If you go there on Google Maps and look at the street view you see law offices. One is for Cassutt Hayes and Friedman, Attorneys at Law. The other law office there seems to deal mostly with probate.”

            I don’t use Chrome myself. Can anyone verify this info?

    • If the corbettreport.com server has HTTP referer logging enabled (Yes, it is actually spelt that way)


      Then you might have a record on your server of who visited the link to your NATO story from the PropOrNot site.


      Not that it would tell us who is behind the site necessarily but any clicks from before when the site was widely known publicly could be revealing.

  10. Mohawk Man, nosoapradio, karl.h

    I am tracking with you guys. We KNOW that something is up with all the “Fake News” headlines in the mainstream media. We KNOW that the alternative media is the system’s biggest threat and like Corbett points out: “We are winning”.

    We know that “The Powers That Shouldn’t Be” utilize a vast array of covert tools in order to bring about agendas and objectives. …including trying to foment divisiveness and fear. …including infiltration, hired bloggers, hired commenters, hired writers and hired YouTubers along with support for the ‘duped’ and ‘crazies’. We know false flags do exist, not only militarily, but by ploys within the cultural meme (e.g. migration). We know that they pump out stories which can be furthered by the mainstream media or even by the alternative media (e.g. Infowars’ Trump campaign). The PTSNB certainly are not going to sit quietly as their control fades away.
    What a game of 3-D chess.

  11. I take full responsibility and apologize. I wrote that article in July, not really understanding what the NewsBud thing was blossoming into and who was doing what. The article hasn’t changed too much and anyone is free to modify, improve, update it.

    • Here’s the thing, after stalking the Corbett Report for years and now finally infiltrating it…

      But seriously, I think I have a few good reasons for not correcting it (yet).

      1) I want to impress upon you all, that _ANYONE_ can change almost anything on Wikipedia, RationalWiki, WikiSpooks, MetaWiki, etc (some signup may be required, depending on the site and/or article’s security). I’m not saying _YOU_ should have changed it by now, but you _COULD_ have. Anyone could.

      2) I didn’t want to look like I was trying to hide something.

      Every mediawiki page has a history and a discussion/talk page full of information that is usually full of contentious information and debates, occasionally more interesting and informative than the ‘main’ article, and if they get long and messy enough someone “archives” it. For example:
      Talk: 9/11 Truth movement (pretty short and clean) current:
      Talk: 9/11 Truth movement (I had made a big long mess of it this year because they weren’t being accurate or allowing “fringe” material in and being uber-rule-sticklers.) Archive #5 2014-2016:

      3) I want to get it right. I’ve been taking notes with your feedback.

      The bad reasons for not correcting it (yet).

      1) Some people are actually reading it now being slightly misinformed as it’s wrong in part but not terribly wrong.

      2) RationalWiki is more of a community of joker atheists of all stripes than “rational”. After being utter disappointed in Wikipedia I wandered to RationalWiki and Quora only to be disappointed there as well. I’m finally home here but it seems I must return with the good word of Corbett.

      I don’t know if you have any idea how many truthers are bashing their heads against Wikipedia on a regular basis. It’s heartbreaking. Regardless, I think it’s very important “James Corbett (journalist)” ultimately be represented on Wikipedia, even if it’s not ideally free or a perfect article. When compelled with a nugget of knowledge I update Sibel Edmond and Lionel’s articles. I’d be grateful if you can give me any help or links, especially MSM links, about you or your efforts to make this a proper Wikipedia article:

      A good headshot photo to release copyleft would be nice too.

      I will begin modifying it after this.

  12. [Copied here for the record, from the YouTube comments (as a new CR member!):]

    Dear James Corbett and The Corbett Report Fans,

    I am responsible for the “strange little entry”, in part, as I wrote the seed Rational Wiki article (modified a bit since). I was trying to help branch out awareness (and promotion). I don’t know if the other examples in the “Prop List” use Rational Wiki or not, but I suspect it could be because The Corbett Report sadly does not have internet cross pollination outside geopolitical-truther-pundit circles. I suspect they, like myself, could not find much else about you. Also, FYI, I had nothing to do with the “Prop List”.

    I’d like to take credit for the “excellent summation of what you’re attempting to do” but the credit, sir, is all yours for bringing this all into concise logical focus. You’re welcome, and, THANK YOU! for being my favourite for years. I just wish I could help more.

    Like other notable JC people (Jesus Christ, John Connor, James Corbett, etc) my name is Jason Carswell. I am also Canadian, now in Windsor, Ontario with a window on Detroit’s Belle Isle.

    I am an open book on Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JasonCarswell ) which also features links to Rational Wiki, Quora, etc, and my very first failed effort to post a James Corbett article on Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:James_Corbett_(journalist) PLEASE feel free to improve (add legit links) and resubmit). I am a reclusive hermit scraping by on chronic bipolar disability but have actually improved over this last year and emerged to engage the world a bit at times. I’ve been contributing to Wikipedia over a decade since it began but never delved into the “back end” subculture until this year through frustrating necessity. Wikipedia, one of the worlds most used sites, is not only heavily infiltrated, patrolled, restricted, and censored, but the gatekeeping seems to be getting worse. On ALL subjects! I really faced this trying to improve the 9-11 Truther movement page (not even the main 9-11 page or 9-11 theory page) which will not allow you to source from actual “fringe” truther sites unless it’s been in the “official” mainstream media. After months of beating my head against their obscure Wikipedia-ese (short hand code and rules and “culture”) and absolutely brutal censorship, despondently I started looking for other ways to promote these ideas and The Corbett Report (easily my favourite in almost all ways). I started looking at Rational Wiki, MetaWiki, WikiSpooks, and Quora.

    Quora has strange and arbitrary censorship rules. I was trying to inclusively create a list of good documentaries about alternative histories (false flags, deceptions, etc) in order to create contextual revisionist historical reference. Because I was linking to Wikipedia and YouTube it was deemed “promotional” and blocked. It took so much effort to discover why it soured me for good, so I’ve also mostly retired from Quora despite being “the foremost expert” on the New World Order with only 4 good answers (2nd place had 11 answers but less views).

    Rational Wiki also has a unique culture and they like to make fun of things too. I improved the James Corbett article I intended for Wikipedia (rejected for being to promotional (by someone’s subjective perspective) and because there are not enough “official” citations) and I (re)posted it on Rational Wiki and suggested it needed “more goat” which means in their culture more humour (which is VERY loosely defined on their site). If you look at the history you can see the article’s evolution. Some mediocre goat was added (check the hyper-links (crackpot, moonbat, etc)) but not very well or with much gusto. Basically, just enough snark to be annoying.

    Rational Wiki people don’t believe in Santa God but they do believe in mainstream politics. I was hoping some might be anti-establishment. At best they may be against pseudo-science. Feeling them out, I tried to explain that ISIS was an extension of the deep state and was rewarded with a new term I’d not heard of before. “JAQing off” means “Just Asking Questions” to annoy people. I did not intend to annoy them with historical precedents, rather, only to inform them they were deceived and controlled like any other dogma. So I gave that up “Rational” Wiki too. I joined other sites (WikiSpooks and MetaWiki) but have yet to delve into them. I may continue further on Steemit ( https://steemit.com/@jasoncarswell ) [after I learned about it 2 or 3 months ago from The Corbett Report].

    I did try a bit to get the NewsBud stuff accurate and I’m sorry it wasn’t quite right. Back in July I didn’t really know what was up with NewsBud (they’d only half rebranded-moved) or why it was still coming out of BoilingFrogsPost.com and who was in it (you do make a lot of appearances there) and how they were members – but as my second favourite (tied with Lionel Nation/LionelMedia.com) I figured it was worth promoting and cross linking since Sibel Edmonds was also at least featured on Wikipedia (which is not as easy as it once was) and might eventually help cross-validate a James Corbett article. I would have mentioned Global Research TV but it seemed like you gave that up mostly? I would have loved to provide a full list of appearances (to cross-promote and cross-link and wedge a JC article in).

    I’d be happy to improve the Rational Wiki article and Wikipedia draft if you could give me more information and links. [Wikipedia doesn’t like people to edit articles about themselves (but some still do).]

    I have a much longer list of ideas (some good, some great, some need work) I’d like to share with The Corbett Report and community if you’re interested.

    Lastly, I implore everyone who uses Wikipedia (I believe it’s a top 10 website) to improve the 9-11 theories, truther movement, and James Corbett (journalist) articles. I know they’ll try to keep the information out in various ways but we must try for eyes and hearts and minds.

    In Corbett I trust (but verify),
    ~ Jason Carswell

    [Please comment as you see fit.]

    • Being the softie I am, I can’t help but venture out to express how my heart goes out to you, Jason, as yours certainly seems to be in the right place. James is fortunate to have such a qualified and sincere advocate as you. I wish you great success in your efforts to bring legitimate credibility to the issues you stated on such a monolithic platform as Wikipedia. Don’t give up, and the more contributors to that task, the better.

      Longtime lurker, first time commenter here. For too long I’ve withheld from saying how impressed I am with James Corbett’s down-to-earth style; truly a delight to read and watch.

      Equal kudos to the regular commenters (HomeRemedySupply, Mohawk Man, M.Clare, VoiceofArabi, nosoapradio, etc etc). If it weren’t for your contributions, challenges, recommendations and reasoned temperance, I’m pretty sure I’d have significant gaps in my understanding, which is still a great work in progress.

      Anyway, just sayin’. Thanks to you all.

      • I’m grateful for your compassion. I was afraid I was just emo ranting but suspected it might humanize the story and impart the necessity to fight for our space on Wikipedia and relevance in the world at large.

    • In my opinion, trying to bring truth to wikipedia is like trying to bring air to open space. Gatekeepers monitor all the key topics and they make sure the truth is well aligned with their policies.

      • I’m sure you’re right, mkey. No doubt my hoping is indicative of just how green I am, but in light of my hearing that a surprisingly large percentage of Americans are persuaded that 9/11 was an inside job, I can’t help but feel somewhat optimistic.

        • If the “fact” (better said a general feeling) is that understanding/acceptance of events from 9/11 being an inside job has entered the cultural norms, that only saddens me. If people on the mass scale are willing to accept this simple fact and still be, for all intents and purposes, compliant and docile then what’s the difference between “knowing” and “living in a lie”?

          Has our rebellious spirit been completely extinguished? Are we THAT much brainwashed or has maybe something been put in our water? Have we become unable to get angry over such issues as treason and mass murder?

          • Right? Hard questions getting to the heart of why evil triumphs: the ancient struggle of authority/collective/orthodoxy vs. scattered “rebellious” individuals, the latter varying on the spectrums of enlightenment, assertiveness, confidence and personal philosophical assumptions. I suspect it’s pretty complicated; it’s certainly frustrating.

          • I agree.

            I also want to point out that half of everyone is stupider than average and a whole lot of the other half is awfully close to the stupid half. (Just sheeple to be exploited by elites.) Someone else further up this page expanded on our timid tribalist intelligentsia.

            It’s easy to imagine belief not on a bell curve but on a perilous mountain of truth covered in slippery BS and we’re all trying to push up our boulder of limited awareness for some primal search for knowledge, while many prefer to sit on their boulders at the bottom or lodged somewhere part way up. Near the top of the mountain is guru James Corbett with his own worn down boulder.

            Alternatively, rather than the over-used “rabbit hole” (no sexual innuendo intended until these brackets) I prefer to imagine a gravity well of truth. Many people are affected by it but their daily routine orbits are rarely perturbed. Some get closer to the truth and are heated feeling the urgency. At the centre is the James Corbett singularity of hilarity, like Buddha laughing and pointing out the absurdity of the Universe.

            In JC I trust (but verify),
            ~ Jason.C

      • Heh, yea last time I looked, Wikiledia still listed “space lasers” as something Dr. Judy Wood claims was responsible for the twin towers vaporizing on 9/11. Only thing is, she’s never mentioned lasers, much less space lasers. That’s something the debunkers pinned to her to get people to dismiss her work. She tried to get her Wiki page cleaned up, as did others. But mysteriously it gets re-edited each time, so she just quit trying to fix it. (At least that’s how it stood a couple of years ago when she and I were on a forum together).

        • That’s how they win. Eventually you give up. I gave up (for now) trying to correct the “9-11 Truther movement” article (not even 9-11 or 9-11 theories, which are as bad) because the mainstream media won’t accurately cover them, therefore they won’t let “fringe” issues speak for themselves or quote from themselves. Try writing an article about the bible, Shakespeare, Dumas, or Doyle without being able to quote the text and no one’s willing to “officially” talk about it.

          On the other hand “SPACE LASERS MAKE YOU PREGNANT DEBUNKED!!!” would be a great click-bait title that you might be able to sugar coat to embed the proper content within somehow. Fight fire with fire and everything else you can imagine.

          Wikipedia _claims_ to be of and for the people and we need to hold them to that. I won’t give up. I will get tired occasionally, but I won’t give up. Right now while the “fake news” iron is hot I’m focusing on the “James Corbett (journalist)” article draft:



          Abundant MSM articles about “fake news” have yet to directly mention James or the Report by name, but this is critical (thus they avoid mentioning him on purpose). I am looking for any _mainstream media_ that specifically mentions and thereby recognizes and validates James Corbett, The Corbett Report, and/or any of his work – according to Wikipedia’s fortress against including “fringe”. Obviously there is an abundance of “fringe” material, but I/WE NEED MSM to get James Corbett onto Wikipedia to be more accessible for people’s access to awareness if they choose.

          Worth considering: Knowing that “they” (Wikipedia, MSM, elites, etc) are monitoring this open forum, how do we best find solutions that are undefeatable, when clearly all too often the truth is not enough and they already know what we’re doing and intend to do?

          On another note, though a ways away, for next year’s 9-11 video, I recommend this curmudgeon’s article I stumbled upon ( http://blog.banditobooks.com/an-open-letter-to-james-corbett/ ) and nominate that The Corbett Report revisit its concepts about the Pentagon attack. I’d also think that James Fetzer’s comments worth mentioning about them letting the dumpsters in front of the Pentagon burn on and on for dramatic Hollywood-esque effect, as well as the fire hoses obscuring the little hole before collapse. I don’t recall her name but she gave an absolutely fantastic incredibly excellent video recorded lecture (that blew my mind because no one else discusses it) about how (I’m brutally summarizing) the Pentagon was most likely another inside detonation job, and everything else outside was just confusion dressing.

          Finally (I hate to drone on) about 9-11, I want to remind everyone, as I did Lionel (http://LionelMedia.com), that there were SIX EVENTS! 6 events in those September attacks. WTC 1 & 2, Building 7, Pentagon, Shanksville, AND Anthrax to shut up and cover up. I propose a new Truther Movement talking-point/mantra should be “THE SIX EVENTS OF 2001”. It’s a wedge! Even though the FBI proved the anthrax was an inside job they closed it before it was solved.

          Lastly, has The Corbett Report, NewsBud, and other similar types ever considered developing their own wiki? Is there one you use? (I’m new here.) WikiSpooks seems good though it needs work. Rational Wiki isn’t entirely rational. I haven’t investigated at MetaWiki yet. I don’t know of any other wikis that aren’t about endless fan details and/or corporately owned. Wikipedia (+ Wiktionary, Wikiquotes, etc) as well as Wikia (fan wikis) are controlled by the same overlords, and in my opinion unreliable. And there’s Quora. They all have their pros and cons but all are compromised.

  13. propornot reeks of a psyop, they’ve put crackpot sites in with reliable sources, mixed it all together and the end result is a glass of watered down cool aid that nobody can swallow.

  14. This is nothing pitchforks and torches can’t fix.

  15. Has prop-or-not affect google?

    Today google influenced my yahoo mail account to put your update email into my spam box.

    Google has done this before with other sites that I link to. Just seemed interesting that this happened after the propornot list emerged.

    • I rarely check my gmail and never check the spam. I just recovered 2 emails from ae911truth.org from the spam folder. Obviously I have no idea what else has been lost.

  16. – Nov 19, 2016 – Elite talking about the MSM and Trump

    “…(The voters) not only distrust the MSM, they seem to feel strongly that the MSM is controlled by forces that are intentionally trying to discredit the things they believe strongly in…”
    “…We were the bad guys. We didn’t get it. We represented everything they wanted to change. We were the forces behind the corrupt media. The elites. The establishment. The suckers getting paid off by George Soros and foreign corrupt interests….”
    — Mark Cuban

  17. – Bumping Corbett’s comment –

    Hmmm…well, speaking of leads I just received this from a listener:

    “Did you notice that prop or not has a Chrome extension? And that the developer’s address is 530-B Harkle Road, STE 100, Santa Fe, NM, 87505? If you go there on Google Maps and look at the street view you see law offices. One is for Cassutt Hayes and Friedman, Attorneys at Law. The other law office there seems to deal mostly with probate.”

    I don’t use Chrome myself. Can anyone verify this info?

  18. Quote from “We heart Propaganda” – “obtaining news from actual reporters who report to an editor and are professionally accountable for mistakes…” !!

    It kills me that the “source” for Russia tampering with the election was a remark from James Clapper. The same James Clapper who lied under oath to congress AND the American people about the NSA saying on American citizens. Who’d believe anything that lying berk says? He’s in the same pit as Bill Clinton in terms of credibility. Does the media call him on it, or even bother to look into the issue? Of course not!

    Professional accountability? From the Lamestream media? What a joke..

    • “reporters who report to an editor and are professionally accountable for mistakes…”
      = scapegoatable servants of the infinite echo chamber of mythology

  19. I went to the Reddit thread listed in the ProporNot page and it was, as expected, “crickets.” Nobody participating. Heck, there are more people interested in recipes for holiday cupcakes than are viewing or participating in the ProporNot thread.

    So, it will fail, utterly. It’s ridiculous. Glenn Greenwald and others have responded to the accusations with a “Fisk” of their own. (Old Internet tradition: Fisk, haha)

    Anyway, I had to laugh.

  20. Hmm, this is weird, I think? Let me know if I’m wrong in how Wayback machine works someone.

    Yesterday, Nov 28th, after seeing James’ video on prop or not, I went to their site. I noticed NaturalNews was listed, and beside the entry were two links as “poof”. The first link went to a Snoops article which I immediately dismissed. The second went to an article on NN with the headline mentioning Russia, GMO’s AND vaccines. So just now I was looking at Prop or not on Wayback machine, and now their snapshot of yesterday’s prop or not “list” doesn’t show the “proof’s” by the web sites? It’s like they are just mirroring their latest revision (today’s) on the last few days snapshots. I thought Wayback machine showed the snapshots of the web page as they were on that day?

    I just noticed, after further study, that Wayback machine has vanished all previous copy’s of Prop or not’s “the list” page. It gives an HTTP 301 error, which is a permanent redirect. Which, it appears to me, someone at Wayback is aiding prop or not…?

    Is there another explanation that I’m not aware of? The reason I know what the links were and the date is I posted about it on a private forum. So I was able to go back and see what I posted yesterday.

    • Id like to know who they are as well. Hell I’d like to know how they got Wayback machine to change their snapshots of prop or not’s page.

  21. I became a member a week ago with a excited flurry. I’ve been silent a few days because I was working on Corbett Report advertising/awareness/propaganda:


    I submitted it for acceptance but was nominated for deletion today by an asshole who was partly correct. It links to “fringe” fake news sites and even if the article passed Wikipedia’s rules they would eventually go through and remove the non-mainstream links. Not only was he rude but he did recognize RT, and, like others, accuses me of being Corbett incognito without imagining to change initials. He’s one voice but others will be similar. Obviously the article requires rewriting (I researched to a point, found last year’s deleted “The Corbett Report” article and archived log, crudely merged them, spent ages finally fixing all the links but I didn’t get to rewrite and finesse the content properly), and the fanboy tone is not “neutral” enough, but most importantly it needs controversial content minimized and/or the “fringe” purged while remaining robust enough to be accepted by the totalitarian fascist supporters.

    Also, the Wikipedia editor who is nominating the JC article for deletion is also trying to get me “sanctioned” and “topic banned from any page relating to conspiracy theories” or worse:

    I revised the RationalWiki article but some RW folks, all things considered, developed a pretty good RationalWiki article on JC by adding “goat” which is their “style” of humour and formatting style distinct from Wikipedia:

    I pointed out the Sibel Edmonds/BFP/NewsBud omission and that they might consider writing an article for her, and some other faves: Lionel, Richard D. Wolff, and Yanis Varoufakis.

    Because Wikipedia does not seem like a safe place if they delete my draft rather than allow further revisions I have archived copies to: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User:JasonCarswell But they may not be there long if they don’t want them there. I don’t really “get” the Rational Wiki community nor feel welcome as a “crackpot moonbat wanker”.

    Wikispooks seems okay but very slow and has cosmetic work to go. I don’t know how good Wikispooks content is. (I don’t know if the Julian Assage death rumours are premature or not but Wikispooks should be careful.) I don’t know anything about MetaWiki yet. They both score low on the WOT Web Of Trust browser addon, but then, anything controversial or bad usually does.

    In addition to The Corbett Report comments, is there a forum people prefer? Not only would I like to post the wiki article there to develop and branch when my morale recovers, but ideally I’d like to develop creative projects, open lists, etc. I feel guilty about long or frequent posts here.

    I’d like to pitch to James Corbett and/or NewsBud (of which I’m not a member): We create content that you can exclusively post first – only if you like it. Why? Eyes. Occasionally it might be nice to have immediate broader access to the massive masses for greater impact – all via CR & NB as gatekeepers for their own trusted brands. It’s about the message, not me.

  22. Bloomberg CyberExpert on FAKE NEWS Dec 8
    (Aggh! Never mention “Climate Change is a hoax” or you’ll be censored.)

    NEWSBUD – Dec 9
    “PropOrNot: Evidence of a CIA Psychological Operation”

    By Mark Ames
    “Site Behind Washington Post’s McCarthyite Blacklist Appears To Be Linked to Ukrainian Fascists and CIA Spies”

    ha!…the ‘Russian hacker concept’ goes down the toilet with Bloomberg’s own Report.
    According to this Bloomberg report, in 2004 only 9% of the Russian people had internet access.
    Also, note Russia’s version of “FACEBOOK”.

    YouTube of the Bloomberg Russia Report.
    Video gets juicy at around the 10 minute mark.

  23. Feb 17, 2017 – Natural News
    This is interesting and bizarre…

    “BREAKING: Health Ranger threatened by left-wing media goons: “Destroy Alex Jones or we will destroy YOU””

    “Media Matters” comes up…
    EXCERPT from the threat:
    In the next four years, Media Matters will continues its core mission of disarming right-wing misinformation, while leading the fight against the next generation of conservative disinformation: The proliferation of fake news and propaganda now threatening the country’s information ecosystem. Here’s what success will look like:

    * Serial misinformers and right-wing propagandists inhabiting everything from social media to the highest levels of government will be exposed, discredited.

    pdf of the threat

    Media Matters

  24. Feb 22, 2017
    Natural News ( http://www.naturalnews.com/ ) has been censored by Google
    Natural news was #4 on the “Is It Propaganda or Not?” website.

    Articles about the Google censorship of “Natural News”.

    …today the entire Natural News website has been blacklisted by Google…removed over 140,000 pages from its index…
    …•Yesterday, InfoWars was blackballed by AdRoll.com, an online advertising distribution company. According to Alex Jones, the blacklisting by AdRoll will cost InfoWars $3 million in annual revenues…
    …•The Shopify e-commerce platform was aggressively threatened by organized Leftists to dump the Breitbart online store and thereby deny revenues to Breitbart….

  25. Feb 23, 2017 Project Veritas exposing CNN
    “Project Veritas released 119 hours of raw audio in a WikiLeaks style dump, with over 100 more hours still yet to be released. The audio was secretly recorded in 2009 by an anonymous source inside CNN’s Atlanta headquarters who we are identifying as Miss X. The tapes contain soundbites from current and previous CNN employees Joe Sterling, Arthur Brice, and Nicky Robertson, as well as numerous others. Project Veritas is also offering a $10,000 award for content that exposes media malfeasance.”
    YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-0_dFnl-Y
    See more at: http://www.cnnleaks.com/
    Website: http://projectveritas.com/

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