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As a janitor holding a master key to the North Tower of the World Trade Center on the morning of 9/11, William Rodriguez risked his life until the very moment of the building’s destruction, helping those trapped inside the Towers to escape. But carefully curated from most mainstream reports on Rodriguez’ remarkable story is an equally remarkable fact: This 9/11 hero is in fact a 9/11 whistleblower, someone who has contradicted the official story of the September 11th attacks from day one. This is his story.
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When people talk of the bravery exhibited by ordinary men and women during the traumatic hours of the 9/11 attacks, they are talking about people like William Rodriguez. Indeed, of the many stories of selflessness and courage to have emerged from that fateful day, it would be difficult to find one more heroic than that of William Rodriguez, dubbed the “last man out” because, as a janitor holding a master key to the buildings, he risked his life till the very moment of the Tower’s destruction, helping those trapped inside the Towers to escape.
RAMON TAYLOR: William Rodriguez was working as a janitor at the World Trade Center when the towers were attacked. Using a master key, he ran to open as many doors as he could before exiting and becoming buried alive.
WILLIAM RODRIGUEZ: So they started looking under the rubble, and once I got pulled from under the rubble I was—after, I was in shock. Why? Because I couldn’t find any of those buildings.
SADE BADERINWA: Rodriguez had one of only five master keys to unlock the doors in the middle stairwell and lead firefighters up floor by floor.
RODRIGUEZ: So I went and I picked up the man in the wheelchair and I started going down. The building started to oscillate so hard.
BADERINWA: He saved several lives that day. Then suddenly Rodriguez heard a terrible rumbling like the sound of an earthquake.
RODRIGUEZ: I saw—it was a total disaster. And all I hear is “Run! Run! Run!
BADERINWA: Like so many others, Rodriguez ran from the cloud of debris and dove under a fire truck.
WILLIAM RODRIGUEZ: We went up by the stairs with the Port Authority police to start rescuing people. A lot of people were coming out, but there was a lot of people that stayed there. And we brought a lot of people on wheelchairs and a lot of people on gurneys, all [the] people that couldn’t make it because there was no elevator service. The elevator went out.
SOURCE: CBS – 9-11 William Rodriguez interview 9/11 NIST FOIA – WCBS Dub2_30
REPORTER: The World Trade Center towers were built as a class “A” building. That means that, in the case of a fire, every third floor in both towers is closed to prevent a backdraft. It is the reason that Rodriguez’ master key was so crucial to getting people out.
RODRIGUEZ: It was hard. The amount of heat that was generated because of the fire was coming down. The smoke . . . It was an acrid smoke because you could feel it on your throat.
REPORTER: He saw firefighters carrying a hundred pounds’ worth of equipment on their backs waiting for a freight elevator that would never come. That elevator was demolished. So Rodriguez led them up another way, using a back pathway that only he knew. After the sky lobby collapsed he finally listened to police, who told him to get out. He was not prepared for what he was about to see.
RODRIGUEZ: When I look around I find all the bodies of the people that jump out of the building. They came out of the building and they say, “I saved myself!” And a piece of debris came in and killed them.
As one of the heroes of that day, a man whose story encapsulates all the tragedy and drama of 9/11, William Rodriguez is no stranger to the glare of the media spotlight. Not only has he been interviewed for dozens of news programs and reports on the events of September 11, 2001, and been featured as a spokesman for the survivors at multiple events and on many reports, he has also been awarded for his courage that day and even invited to a White House dinner, where he was honored by President Bush for his bravery.
But carefully curated from most mainstream reports on Rodriguez’ remarkable story is an equally remarkable fact: This 9/11 hero is in fact a 9/11 whistleblower, someone who has contradicted the official story of the September 11th attacks from day one. According to Rodriguez, the first explosion that he felt that day was not the impact of the plane nearly 100 stories above him, but an explosion below him, from one of the sub-basement levels.
RODRIGUEZ: That morning I was supposed to be there at 8 o’clock in the morning every day. I called my supervisor because I was not going to work, I was gonna take a sick day. Made it there at 8:30 in the morning, go straight to the lobby, down to the basement.
The building has six sub-levels of basement: B1, B2 . . . all the way down to B6. Basement six, basement five, all the way up to basement one were all Port Authority areas. Some of them have parking for tenants, some of them have storage. B1 office . . . B1 level is where they have the support office for my company, the cleaning company, American Building Maintenance.
So I was talking to the supervisor, and at 8:46 we hear “BOOM!” An explosion so hard that pushed us upwards in the air. Upwards. And it came out from below us. From the mechanical room that was right below us. And it was so loud and so powerful that all the walls cracked, the false ceiling fell on top of us, the sprinkler system got activated, and everybody started screaming so loud because they didn’t know what was going on.
And the first thing I’m going to say is that a generator just blew up on the B2 level—the level below me. And everybody’s screaming. And when I’m going to verbalize it, six to seven seconds after, we hear “BAH!” The impact all the way on the top of the building of the plane.
Two different events separated by almost seven seconds. Separated by time. And now, I work in the building for 20 years. I know the difference of the sound coming from the top and one from the bottom.
So when everybody started—”What the heck is going on?”—a person comes running into the office saying, “Explosion! Explosion!” His hands extended, all the skin pulled from under his armpits on both arms. Hanging! And we thought it was clothing—it was part of his clothes—until he gets closer. He was coming like this, like a zombie. “Explosion! Explosion!” And when I looked at him, I realized it was his skin. Like when you take off a glove and you let it hang. And when I get to see his face, all this part was hanging off his face and everybody started screaming in horror. And I say, “Don’t move!” The guy was a black guy named Felipe David. Worked for a company called Aramark.
SOURCE: William Rodriguez’s story
Rodriguez’ story provides startling and credible eyewitness testimony that undermines the official myth that there were no explosives in the Twin Towers that morning. Rodriguez is insistent on a number of points: That there was a loud and distinct noise at 8:46 AM, that it came from beneath them in the sub-basement level and blew them upwards, and that it notably preceded the sound of the plane impact above them. This has led Rodriguez to conclude that there was an explosion in the sub-basement before the plane impacted the North Tower, something which the 9/11 Commission and other official government investigations into the attacks denies.
And, importantly, Rodriguez has been telling this same story—including the same detail about Felipe David—since the day of 9/11 itself.
AARON BROWN: William Rodriguez is a maintenance worker at the Trade Center, I believe. In any case, he’s on the phone with us now. Mr. Rodriguez, can you hear me?
RODRIGUEZ: Yes, I can hear you clearly.
BROWN: Tell me where you were when—well, which of the two buildings were you in?
RODRIGUEZ: I work on the Building One. The one that got hit the first time.
BROWN: Tell me what happened.
RODRIGUEZ: I was on the basement, which is a support floor for the maintenance company. And we hear like a big rumble—not like an impact, like a rumble—like something . . . like moving furniture on a massive way. And all of a sudden we hear another rumble and a guy comes running—running—into our office, and all his skin was off his body. All his skin. We went crazy. We started screaming. We told him to get out. We took everybody out of the office, outside to the loading dock area. And then I went back in. And when I went back in I saw people—I heard people that were stuck on an elevator—on a freight elevator, because all the elevators went down. And water was going in and they were probably getting drowned. And we get a couple of pipes and open the elevator and we got the people out.
If it were only William Rodriguez who heard, saw and experienced explosions inside the Twin Towers that morning, then such testimony would be easy enough to rationalize away. Maybe Rodriguez had become confused in the chaos of that morning. Maybe he had interpreted the sound and explosion incorrectly. Maybe he was lying to gain attention.
But William Rodriguez is not the only person who heard, saw and experienced explosions inside the Twin Towers that morning. In fact, hundreds of people, including office workers, police, firefighters and others have reported explosions all throughout the morning, from before the moment of plane impact all the way up to the explosive demolition of the towers themselves.
FEMALE BYSTANDER: What was it like?
TYRONE JOHNSON (FDNY LADDER 24): Horrible. The whole building just collapsed on us. Inside the lobby.
MALE BYSTANDER: Was that a secondary explosion?
JOHNSON: Yes, it was. Definitely a secondary explosion. We was inside waiting to go upstairs and on our way upstairs the whole fucking thing blew. And it just collapsed on everybody inside of the lobby.
MALE BYSTANDER: That must be the first tower coming down—
JOHNSON: I don’t know about the first one, but the second one . . . It was terrible. Then there was a third one, too, after that one.
MALE BYSTANDER: There was an explosion after that?
JOHNSON: Yes, there was. Everybody was just inside the building, waiting to go upstairs and it just let loose. Everything just let loose inside the building.
MALE BYSTANDER: So what you’re telling me is that there was the plane or whatever hit the building, then a secondary explosion—
JOHNSON: There was like three explosions after that. We came in after the fire—We came when the fire was going on already. We was in the staging area inside the building, waiting to go upstairs. And then an explosion. The whole lobby collapsed on the lobby inside.
SOURCE: 9/11 FireFighters – THREE Explosions After Plane Hit WTC
REPORTER: And you were working there?
KENNY JOHANNEMAN: Yes, I was right there. I was in the B—I was down in the basement. Came down. All of a sudden the elevator blew up. Smoke. I dragged a guy out. His skin was hanging off and I dragged him out. And I helped him out to the ambulance.
SOURCE: 9/11 Eyewitness to Twin Towers Basement Explosion?
REPORTER: Arthur Del Bianco is one of the lucky few, able to tell a tale of survival from a hospital bed.
ARTHUR DEL BIANCO: All of a sudden there was, like, “BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!” Like bullet shots. And then, all of a sudden, three tremendous explosions and everything started coming down.
SOURCE: 9/11 Eyewitnesses to WTC Demolition Explosions
EYEWITNESS: I think a bomb went off in the lobby first, then a plane hit the building. Then another plane hit the other building. But when I was coming through the doors on the other side of the Trade Center, something—either they blew the lobby up, or something. Because it blew the glass out of the doors and knocked us all down and I got a—smoke and everything on me.
SOURCE: 9/11 Eyewitnesses to WTC Demolition Explosions
Fireman 1: We made it outside, we made it about a block—
Fireman 2: We made it at least two blocks and we started running. Floor by floor, it started popping out—
Fireman 1: It was as if they had detonated–as if they were planning to take down a building. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM—
Fireman 2: All the way down. I was watching it and running.
These stories, collected haphazardly by reporters at the scene that day, paint a very different picture of 9/11 than that portrayed by NIST and the 9/11 Commission. Rather than a progressive collapse due to fire and burning jet fuel, these stories suggest that what was happening inside the Twin Towers that morning was in fact a series of explosive events. Explosive events that were powerful enough to cause internal collapses within the buildings well below the points of the plane impact and fires, and even, according to multiple witnesses, events that preceded the impact of the plane.
But is there more systematic and rigorously collected evidence of these explosions? Is there a repository of such testimony that would confirm what Rodriguez and many others have affirmed since the day of 9/11 itself: namely, that there were explosions taking place inside the buildings that morning?
In fact, there is such a repository. In the wake of 9/11, New York Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen ordered the collection of oral testimony from firefighters, paramedics and emergency medical technicians who responded to the attacks that morning. That collection, amounting to more than 12,000 pages of testimony from 503 people, was then promptly sealed. It took a lawsuit and four years of court battle for the collection to be finally released to the public.
One of the researchers who spent time poring over that testimony was Graeme MacQueen, a retired associate professor at McMaster University and the former director of that university’s Peace Studies Center. What he found in that repository of oral history, and presented in a scholarly article for The Journal of 9/11 Studies, was an unmistakable pattern: Time after time, these first responders reported experiencing explosions in the Twin Towers. Explosions that cannot be accounted for in NIST’s official explanation of the towers’ destruction.
GRAEME MACQUEEN: There is other eyewitness explosion evidence that corroborates Rodriguez, at least in a general way. Meaning that there were people talking about explosions in the basement. There were lots of people talking about tremendous explosions and fire in some of the elevators—blowing the doors off elevators.
And some of this testimony can be found on the internet. I found some of it in the FDNY oral histories. You know, firefighters talking about the doors being blown off elevators.
And so there was some kind of very destructive event. Also the windows in the lobby, which were very strong windows, were blown out by the time most of the firefighters got there. And as one of them said, it looked like a plane hit the lobby.
There were other explosions that went off over the next hour or so, before the buildings started to come down. And when they came down, there were patterns of explosion from around the point of plane impact all the way down. Apparently we were supposed to believe that the building was coming down because of structural failure. But again, these were timed very well to go off in a particular way.
This is one of the reasons we know that these were explosions and that this was a controlled demolition. There were patterns. And they were explosions that were extremely strong, taking out these massive buildings and pulverizing them in less than 20 seconds. This was not structural failure.
Rodriguez’ story was not some fanciful invention that he spun during the most dramatic and horrific hours of his life; it is a story that fits into a pattern of explosive testimony related by many other witnesses that day. It is also a story that is deeply uncomfortable for those in the government and the media who were eager to celebrate the acts of bravery New Yorkers committed that day, but who will never report the explosive truth about the events at the World Trade Center that demolishes the official government conspiracy theory of 9/11.
It is remarkable that Rodriguez, immediately recognized and celebrated for his heroism on that day, would continue to insist on his story even as the official story—the one that insisted there were no explosives used that day—began to take shape. But he did. For years, Rodriguez used his speaking opportunities on mainstream media and at memorials and commemoration events to inform the public about explosions in the Twin Towers that morning.
Unsurprisingly, despite the attention and accolades he received for his remarkable story in the early days of 9/11, he soon found himself becoming persona non grata in the mainstream media because he refused to go along with the official lies about what happened that morning.
RODRIGUEZ: It says, “Safety Fire Department of New York.”
ANASTASIA CHURKINA: A rescue jacket he wore over his torn shirt. A lantern from the rubble.
RODRIGUEZ: It doesn’t work, but another memory from 9/11.
CHURKINA: And a piece of marble from high up on the 44th floor. This saved for a decade.
RODRIGUEZ: I put it in my pocket because it was just such a shocking realization.
CHURKINA: As well as memories that he relives every single day.
RODRIGUEZ: And I was pulled on the rubble and I started looking for all the people and I only found pieces of human beings.
CHURKINA: William Rodriguez, a janitor in the Twin Towers for almost 20 years and 9/11 survivor who saved hundreds of lives on September 11th by unlocking door after door for firefighters and dragging out at least a dozen people with his own bare hands. Known as the “last man out” before the World Trade Center collapsed, his unlikely story had the media glued to him like bees to honey. Becoming a voice for the victims, Rodriguez was honored as an American hero, only to be left homeless in the aftermath of the tragedy.
RODRIGUEZ: Funny thing: I will give the 800 number on camera, and when I called the 800 number they denied me the help.
CHURKINA: And shunned by the mainstream media soon after.
RODRIGUEZ: Censorship. I believe that censorship started from the very beginning, because when I was telling my story they told me, “Oh, cut this out. Cut this out.”
CHURKINA: No longer sweetheart of American broadcasts, William now talks mostly to foreign outlets. The reason: His version of 9/11 differed from the official scenario.
NEWS REPORT: It was the first hijacked plane that hit the—
RODRIGUEZ: “It was the first hijacked plane.” No, hello! That was an explosion before the plane hit the tower.
SOURCE: 9/11 survivor censored by media
Even more remarkably, Rodriguez went beyond simply telling the truth about what he witnessed that day.
Little known even to those who are familiar with his story is that Rodriguez has used his notoriety and media opportunities to advocate for 9/11 survivors who are suffering from the health effects incurred in the aftermath of the towers’ destruction. He has even taken the fight for 9/11 Truth to the political arena, forcing the government’s hand in convening a public commission to investigate the attacks, something that the Bush administration fought tooth and nail to prevent.
RODRIGUEZ: The 9/11 Commission is a book of 576 pages . . . 576 pages of lies. Because the 9/11 Commission exists because I went with three other people to Congress to ask that we wanted a formal investigation of the events of 9/11. And you may remember that the president said, “We don’t need an investigation. We know who did it.” That was the wrong thing to say to the families. We had the right and we wanted to know. So we pressed for an investigation. They didn’t want it.
So we used a technique that they have used against a lot of the people with the excuse of the war. We put widows, we put wives, we put fathers that love their loved ones on every television show and every news network to ask for an investigation. And they couldn’t handle the emotional toll that that will create on the American public. So we got the investigation.
I testified behind closed doors. They didn’t want me to do the testimony in an open hearing. Everything else—everybody else—open hearings. You saw the hearings. Mine was behind closed—I agreed because I did not know what was the process and I thought up to that point that they were going to do the right thing.
We created a family steering committee and we gave the Commission 168 questions to answer. We only have 22 of those questions answered. We wanted to have a family member to be part of the Commission, and they say, “We don’t want to allow that because they will have access to national security papers” and a lot of flimflam and baloney. We never got it. So we have to press for questions to be answered. We never got those answers.
Up to that point we thought that they were going to do the right thing. The final report shows up . . . What a surprise! My whole testimony was omitted. It doesn’t appear. 27 people that I gave them to interrogate, they didn’t call them. Not even one of them.
That the 9/11 Commission’s work was subverted and undermined by conflicts of interest and deliberate cover-up is perhaps to be expected. But the efforts of people like William Rodriguez have been instrumental in advocating for those left quite literally in the dust of 9/11. Those whose stories are too problematic for the official 9/11 narrative to be given any credence or attention.
As Graeme MacQueen points out, the story told by William Rodriguez and the other witnesses to explosions in the Twin Towers that day is not a peripheral issue or a minor footnote in the story of 9/11. On the contrary, it is of central importance. Either Rodriguez and the other witnesses to explosions independent of the planes and fires are wrong, or they are right. And if they are right, we are forced to the conclusion that the official story of 9/11 is not just mistaken, but that it is a deliberate fraud that has been perpetrated on the American public—and the broader public around the world—for nearly two decades.
MACQUEEN: Well, that would obviously indicate that somehow this building was wired for explosions and that there had been a plan made in advance of the plane attacks to destroy this building. And that means the official story about, you know, Mohamed Atta and the other 18 hijackers flying planes is an incorrect story.
That it indicates that there was—to use the classic word—an inside job. Somehow, insiders—deep insiders—got in the building and readied it for annihilation on that day. It also indicates that the story we’ve been told is false, and really knowingly false. Because, of course, Rodriguez and many other eyewitnesses to explosions were ignored, or silenced, or lied about by the official investigating agencies. Which means that the whole 9/11 story is a fraud.
Ultimately, the story of Rodriguez is important, not just for what it tells us about the official 9/11 narrative, or even for what it tells us about the way that power operates in society. It is important because it shows us what ordinary men and women are capable of in extreme situations. It reminds us that, in times of distress, we are still capable of coming together to help those around us. And it provides us with an example of someone who will not stop telling his truth, even when it becomes unpopular.
RODRIGUEZ: Our wounds are still open. We’re still hurting. We’re still going through the process of traumatic shock syndrome—PTSD.
You call me a hero, I call myself a survivor. For me, the heroes died on 9/11, in my opinion, because they died helping others. I just had the only tool available for me at that time to do great things, so I was—I’m a survivor. I have that survival skill. Why did I survive and my friends didn’t?
And now, 16 years after, it hits me stronger because I see the families. I see new families that came out from people that I saved and I always wonder, you know, what would have happened if those people that I lost—those 200 friends—will be alive today. It hits you. It hits you hard. So 16 years after, we’re still dealing with the backlash of what happened on that day.
9/11 changed me. It changed the world. We all know that. But it changed me in more ways than I expected.
“In fact, there is such a repository. In the wake of 9/11, New York Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen ordered the collection of oral testimony from firefighters, paramedics and emergency medical technicians who responded to the attacks that morning. That collection, amounting to more than 12,000 pages of testimony from 503 people, was then promptly sealed. It took a lawsuit and four years of court battle for the collection to be finally released to the public.”
Wow! I didn’t know that! Just this past Saturday after watching the whistleblower video on Barry Jennings, I found that repository in the footnotes of David Ray Griffin’s article “Explosive Testimony: Revelations about the Twin Towers in the 9/11 Oral Histories”. Knowing how inconvenient such testimonies are, surely it’s only a matter of time before that treasure trove disappears. Download it while we can (the archive site doesn’t archive pdf files):
https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html
Another awesome episode. Thank you!
Excellent video. I am impressed by this man William Rodriquez. He could have stopped talking about his experiences and get on with his life, but he doesn’t. This man is twice a hero.
Some may be interested in the following:
Seismic Evidence Points to Underground
Explosions Causing WTC Collapse
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
August 28, 2002
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/bollyn2.htm
Corbett Report Search Bar… “Seismic 9/11 ”
https://www.corbettreport.com/?s=Seismic+9%2F11+
One 2012 Corbett Report link reads…
Andre Rousseau is a former researcher in geophysics and geology at the National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS) of France and a specialist in acoustic waves.
He joins us today to discuss his new paper at the Journal of 9/11 Studies,
“Were Explosives the Source of the Seismic Signals Emitted from New York on September 11, 2001?”
Just listened to it now for the first time, thanks. Shame about the language barrier. Thorough seismic explanation in concert with detailed anicdotal accounts could prove convincing to skeptics.
Excellent work James showing just how brave a man and important Rodriguez’s story is.
He truly is a hero for not only what he did on 9/11 but all the years after!
Over the many years, I have often read articles / seen videos with or about William Rodriguez.
I love how James Corbett writes this story.
He takes the reader (viewer) on a panoramic perspective which includes so many important elements.
Another Note:
I am coming to realize that many folks missed out on the “early days of 9/11 Truth”. There was a lot of information taking shape back then.
In 2019, sometimes it is overlooked, because there was so much.
Olaf says:
“Rodriguez (and his key) was by far the funniest crisis actor.”
(and 38 minute mark of the 2nd video)
I take strong offense.
Texas Style.
Don’t muddy this thread with anymore of that kind of talk. Take it to the “Open Thread”.
https://www.corbettreport.com/summer-open-thread/#comment-66156
When William Rodriguez came to Dallas to speak and for media interviews, he stayed at my buddy’s modest home.
William Rodriguez is a true “friend to man”. His spiritual pay grade as a “friend to man” is way above mine.
Olaf, I don’t know where you rank as a “friend to man”.
Olaf,
I don’t know where to begin to try and make heads or tails of what exactly your point of view is when you call out William Rodriguez as a crisis actor and 9/11 as some kind of hoax event.
The two links you provide in your post above are part 1 and part 2, respectively, of an interview by Steve Johnson of two individuals, Phil Jayhan and Larry McWilliams who control or own a website called Letsroll911.
I must say, Letsroll911 contains some of the most outlandish, esoteric conspiracy theories I’ve ever encountered, others not so much, as for instance, the Moon landing hoax meme, which is, sorry to say, meh.
But, to come off with the idea that the twin towers themselves were a hoax, illusory, hollow towers of some sort, and – am I getting this right? – that nobody actually died on Sept. 11th (“the hoax”?) with the individual William Rodriguez, simply playing the roll as a crisis actor (is this your input?), I simply don’t understand the nature of such mysterious and bizarre thought processes, and to an even greater degree, I’m flummoxed as to its intent.
Oddly, a quick google search of Phil Jayhan turns up a link entitled “Phil Jayhan is an FBI Plant”. Funny.
Elsewhere on this board I noticed you created a slight stir on a subject that is also reflected on the Letsroll911 website I believe, namely, the idea that all the historic nuclear fission bomb testing that went on in the preceding decades also form an elaborate hoax.
Again, I’m entirely flummoxed by anyone who can make such statements with a seemingly straight face, though you do mention something about, if I may paraphrase, your use of disinformation to make your points known? Maybe you could elaborate? The mental gymnastics you are performing are simply mind blowing. lol
Getting back for a moment to the Moon landings hoax meme, I’d like to provide a link I find interesting regarding this. Please note that I am not a filmmaker or videographer, so I personally cannot comment on the veracity of the technical contents expressed, although I am one of those people who do believe the Moon landings took place as advertised. However that may be, the very reason I present this link is because the filmmaker in the video makes some very crucial, general points near the very end of the video wherein he states among other things “…I’m not America, but if I were, I would much rather have you be questioning Apollo 11 and not questioning the Patriot Act, the financial industry bailouts, and the right to indefinite military detention without charge….Those things are real.”
And that, my friend, is the real crux of the matter – it is the truth. Have a listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs
Oh, Olaf, I am not an intelligence officer, if that’s what you’re insinuating, working on behalf of any of the 16, or so, or more, so-called intelligence agencies at home, or any other agencies farther afield, or for any military, police, or hell, for that matter, the FBI. Oh, good heavens, no. No, no, no! Absolutely not! In fact, I work for none-of-them! However, I cannot vouch for any of the true identities of any of the other compatriots listed in your line-up, or even a few subscribers you may have missed. I mean, really, who knows? Because some are, I’ll freely admit, a bit sketchy (and not necessarily any of the ones you listed along with moi); but, this whole thing is neither here nor there….I mean, by some others’ standards, you may be seen as being a bit sketchy yourself, if you were to ask me. Right?
I do not wish to be putting any words in your mouth, nor do I wish for there to be any misunderstandings. So, I’m happy to have a civil, polite discussion.
Here are your words, verbatim:
“…and I thought I would mix some obvious disinformation into my comments to see exactly how he(Corbett)operates.”
Please explain what “obvious disinformation” you are referring to that you “mixed” in? When and how did you insert this disinformation into the mix? Could you please reference the exact comments which you laced with disinfo? I’m afraid it’s not in the least obvious or clear to me. I do apologize for my confusion.
About the firemen in the videos, covered with dust and choking, with bombs going off in the background, etc., you’re calling them out as crisis actors, is that correct? You’re saying they’re not real firemen, or they’re firemen with acting skills that would put Brad Pitt to shame? Honestly, if you had not brought it up, I never in a million years would have had any such thoughts cross my mind, ever. And I am being damned serious. I’m not being tongue-in-cheek here. In another recent post you went as far as to label these guys complicit. Complicit? Are you also talking about the firemen who went into the buildings, implicitly, and who died, implicitly, following implicity, the unspoken, understood order to due their duty? Were they, too, complicit actors?
Is Commissioner Gioia a complicit, crisis actor, as well?
You say:
“They are all pushing for the re-opening of the 9/11 investigation eh?
Isn’t that cute? Let’s have them investigate themselves. Such confidence in the perps.”
That’s pretty heavy. With such a weight of abject disillusionment as this, one would become I’d imagine lost in a very, desolate, dark place.
Having completely rejected the notion of re-investigating 9/11 as constituting a complete fraudulent waste of time, do you have any better suggestions?
candlelight,
Mr. O is “baiting” people.
He is absolutely no stranger to comment forums, and has a toolbelt of approaches/’attack mechanisms’, almost as if professionally trained.
I question his intent.
Yup, thank you, flammable, took the words right out out of my mouth….civility.
Let’s not forget civility, ’cause this is not Prison Planet. lol
Olaf, I’m going to side step the gazillion conspiracy memes you rattled off for the time being, and leave them for the future.
It is notable that of all these quasi-conspiracy memes you’ve bothered to list, you’ve somehow failed to mention the full frontal, real, unequivocal and undeniable government generated pull-the-wool-over-the-gullible-forgetful-general-populace conspiracies such Kennedy, MLK, Kennedy and Fed Res…. Of course, there are other choice historical tidbits you’ve left unlisted, unsurprisingly.
You also failed to answer not a one of my questions regarding the specifics of your disinformation campaign.
I will say this – to your credit!: I do find Steve De’ak and his 911 crash test experiment very intriguing and worth looking into. I, myself, believe that the tangerine in the oval office should really do
what his mutherfuckerness (thank you, alexandre (ha! my favorite word of the month!)does best… and that’s to build exact replicas of the twin towers and fly 767’s into them and see what the fuck happens…..
True that, Olaf?
You may be at a loss as to what’s what. Observation and accurate memory can go far but cannot counter the deluge of disinformation and onslaughts by the 5 eyes agencies. TPTSB have a PR department that is very successful. I have been told the AirForce has 3500 airmen on domestic propaganda and counter intelligence. The Army as well but the source refused to tell how many young men and woman worked at Ft. Chahuga on a daily domestic battlespace. This is long after the CIA director for Reagan said the now prophetic statement” we will know our job is complete when everything the American public believes is a lie”.
So here we are, in a space and time where everything you write will define how you think, therefore it will reveal how you will be dealt with in the future. Its self evident we will be dealt with at sometime in the future. Probably much as the court deals with criminal cases today. The first thing you see in the news paper here, reporting the charged suspects state of mind or his intentions are to be determined by all (the fool’s) online history and subjective comments. That should motivate some but it doesn’t rise above ” its to late now, what can I do about it”. So we are singled out easily here on this site, would not you say?
It was a lot harder to counter descent when we gathered together at the capitol or down at the park and shared our concerns with others on the street. Time to change.
You just got to love the Danes. Shakespeare knew a good thing way back when.
Neils Harret tells all to a lovely reporter.
Lies and fatality to western culture.
https://youtu.be/kRk2mdsXhuw