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James appears on Quite Frankly to talk alien invasions, meme magic, the war of the words and how we can really change the world.
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SHOW NOTES
Jordan Peterson: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor
Episode 457 – How To Save The World!
Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle” – FLNWO #35
Episode 344 – Problem Reaction Solution: Internet Censorship Edition
The REAL Dangers of the Chatbot Takeover
Biodigital Convergence: Bombshell Document Reveals the True Agenda
What is the Trans Agenda? – Questions For Corbett #082
Replicon: Big Pharma Preps the Next Bioweapon
Seems to me … You are on to something …again.
The ufo-alien theme seems to come out around war time. We know the Iran thing is being pumped but once it gets going they will spin the web that will ensnare our emotions, distracting our utter distain for the waging of war. Our utter disgust for the israeli zionists. All the instances of crimes against humanity come to our attention and any way to distract us from acting on those horrors is the mission. Creat a greater threat to reality than what we receive in reality and when that cheap trick fails bring out the more expensive false flags of nuke, bio-weapon release and blame it on Iran, Lebanon, Russia.
UFO and alien themes do a good job cause they are cheap.
First I can remember was around the time of Sgt.Kali and Me Lia. Look magazine had a long run around that time of UFOs and Project Blue Book to distract us; and it worked. Bought them 6 years of obfuscation of the horrors committed on Vietnam , Cambodia, Laos, not to mention RFK and MLK. So far has anyone seen evidence of aliens other than antidotal offerings of guv’ment affiliated operatives?
Books are very exciting. You are welcome and art will be keep alive.
yes indeed!
https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/reportagebook-com-reportage-trailer:a
So far has anyone seen evidence of aliens?
Kind of.
But it is evidence of various astral beings that leave physical traces.
From the perspective of these beings, we are stuck in some kind of 3D matrix.
And for some reason these beings do not want to be known.
So only people who are partially outside the matrix encounter them.
My own research goes more into the direction of:
How can life even exist if there is nothing to create shape from matter.
And if such things exists, how does it help life?
And the conclusion is that this is (non-physical)| consciousness.
Very interesting 67
I have been stuck on zero point fields.
If all points are zero based, then all is nothing, 1 >=< 0 then in any direction from the zero point +1 or -1 then how can a zero perceive the +1,-1 ?
The zero has no matter, where the 1+ or -1 , is matter quantified only by the 0. 0 is greater than +,- 1 Non physical would be an adapt description of God . Nothing, but with intent? How did the 1 pop out of the zero if it wasn’t intentional? The power that represents is infinity? Certainly it could result into 0= det(A). ???
Opps I smudged the formula by leaving out ∆ , movement from the 0 which is zero point energy powered.
If all points are zero based, then all is nothing,
∆0>=<1 From any direction from the zero point +1 or -1 is fixed by ∆0. Then how can a Zero Point Field (ZPF) 0, change, to be <+1,-1 ?
The zero has no matter, only energy ∆ flowing. where as the 1+ or -1 , is matter quantified only by the flowing ∆0. 0 is greater than +,- 1
Self creation from flowing ∆0. Expanding universe?
Non physical would be an adapt description of God . Nothing too ∆0, = intent? How did the 1 pop out of the zero if it wasn’t intentional?
Intent=∆0
The power represented is infinity? Certainly it could result into ∆0= det(A). The creation of the conscious matrix which seems to be fixed by God's unfixed intent.
The zero-point-field is about the physical world. Not about math.
If you get to very small sizes, there is a continuous fluctuation going on.
As if everything is made of waves at the smallest level.
So you never reach the “zero point” of the physical world.
Here is a small example of waves at atomic level – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSCX78-8-q0
You can easily see waves in the pictures.
Such waves are more apparent at far smaller levels.
The physical world (3D+time) is more like the wavy surface (2D+time) of a sea. Like a fluctuating plasma.
The Zero-point-energy is about particles appearing and disappearing in 3D space. Even when the space seems empty, something can appear.
In my model of consciousness, life is outside this 3D physical world.
And life can move the plasma that our physical world is made of.
But consciousness itself has also structures. Some of them we can identify as “spirit” or “soul”.
But it is far more complex. It is at least as complex as life itself.
There is also a “Matrix” outside the physical world,
which captures sects and such.
I think that many “aliens” are connecting to us via this level.
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And beyond that you get on the terrain that certain Near death experiences encounter.
They give us insight about the after-life in respect to life itself.
It seems to give us a glimpse outside both matrix worlds.
Especially when the brain is really shut off.
But I can also reach this last level with meditation
without leaving the world in any sense.
67
Thought provoking.
The arrow symbol could be used as intent in your meditation example. Could Those waves of the the zero point = 0 ? Could The intent be the energy? Emanating front 0?
It’s just a thought . Thanks for giving it a response.
@GBW
Thanks for posing the great question to the crowd my friend.
I have seen some very anomalous and extraordinary craft (that were clearly operating under intelligent control) with my buddies while camping a couple times (and saw a similar instance by myself on another occasion). That said, if i was just observing said craft using conventional intellectual analysis (and not intuition) one could easily come to the conclusion that those (apparently) electrogravitically propelled craft could have all been made by the guys down in the Skunkworks of Lockheed Martin or at the Boeing Phantom Works (or in Raytheon’s USAP R&D programs etc).
While I do think that consideration (weighing the potential that craft which are moving in ways that cannot be explained via the conventional scientific dogmas taught in universities about physics and engineering could in fact be manmade) deserves serious contemplation, I also think that God gave us intuition for a reason and we should make us of that gift.
What my intuition tells me is that many of the instances where people think they saw a “UFO” (or now perhaps the “current thing” vernacular used by younger folks might be “UAP”) and they immediately think it is extra-terrestrials are actually instances where they are observing a manmade electrogravetic (and even in some instances now, inter-dimensional transition capable manmade craft) and that at the same time, there are also instances where beings from other physical worlds, as well as other dimensions, visit here in craft and are observed, recorded and sometimes interact with humans.
The majority of noise you will hear on this topic appears (to me) to be psychological warfare material that is either being consciously propagated by operatives, or in most cases, regurgitated by well meaning individuals that have bought a lie and are now invested in promoting said lie (or set of lies, or set of half-truths mixed with lies).
Case in point:
https://www.malone.news/p/fifty-shades-of-grey-aliens
Hey G.
I got no confidence on Robert Malone either.
I do suppose Boeing did a lot of weapons and aircraft contracts in the 1980s around here. Many of the McDonald Douglas workers continued contracts that got picked up by Boeing and Spirit. A lot of stuff was NASA, like the shuttle bay doors and wing work for the Air Force, very high temperature stuff. One very odd shaped, top secret clearance ,but talked about (a lot) was an, inconel
[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inconel] metal vehicle, drone. This was around 1980. Not very secret secrets. It was for the Navy, which made it unique supposedly and was assumed to go deep but also fly. Nobody saw the end whole vehicle. The higher the top secret stamp the more attention, gossip, it received. Honest hard working folk around here didn’t care too much for keeping secrets apparently. It’s such a different era than when loose lips were forbidden and they would demand more of the workers.
Could have been that thing, or any part of what you bring up .
@GBW
Hey brother,
That is interesting stuff regarding the Boeing and McDonald Douglas peoples.
Very intriguing regarding Inconel, thanks for the intel.
Ya man, I have seen some craft that moved in ways that (to the untrained eye and uneducated observer) most would immediately say 100% “that thing is not from Earth!” Yet, when I observed these craft (in one instance a black disc shaped craft, that darted from one cloud to another at phenomenal speeds, stopping on a dime and changing directions moving at what looked like a dozen times the speed of sound) I just knew they were operated by humans. I got the distinct feeling it was manmade right away. It was mostly vibe, but also the appearance of the surface of the thing (which appeared to have seams and bolts). That time I was at Niagara Falls and I was actually taking pictures of the falls at the moment I noticed it, so naturally I tried to aim my lens at the thing and capture am image, the thing was moving way too much and too fast. The best image I got was a blurry black blob by a cloud. But my eyes saw it and my intuition said to me it was some kinda military black op electrogravetic craft.
Then another time I was with two buddies in the interior of BC camping and we were walking beside an ancient canyon admiring the stars above. In that instance the object was luminous, blue, radiant, and very large. It came across the valley at extreme speed and I looked over at my buddies and saw their jaws drop. It went right over the trees near us. It was a sphere, seamless, emanating indigo blue light, looked like 300 feet in diameter at least. It stopped after moving maybe 500 feet past us towards the mountains, hovering silently, a small red light became visible below the object and then it accelerated at an indescribable speed vertically and was out of our line of sight in moments. The vibe I got from that craft (and perhaps it’s pilots) was different. In that instance, I got the distinct impression that what ever culture created that object, did not call Earth it’s home.
Another time a luminous craft I was observing did not move away, but instead appeared collapsed in on itself and vanished (interdimensional transition? not sure).
It is certainly a mixed bag when it comes to such phenomenon (IMO) but humans tend to like things to be in tidy little black and white categories, so there is a lot of confusion, gaslighting, fear mongering, ignorance and incomplete stories in the realm of the study of anomalous craft, ET visitors (or EDI visitors) and government psyops involving staged abductions and the human weaponization of electrogravetic tech.
Thanks for the response.
At the 55:50 minute mark, Corbett is asked about Robert F Kennedy, Jr. and the new administration.
Thursday November 14, 2024 – NEWS
Trump picks RFK, Jr. as Health and Human Services secretary
HHS includes NIH, FDA, CDC.
Health and Human Services organizational chart
https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/private/pdf/176966/hhsplanappE.pdf
I was chuckling when I saw this headline…
Friday Nov 15 6:40am ET
Moderna, Novovax stocks slide after Trump nominates Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to be top health official
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moderna-novovax-stocks-slide-after-trump-nominates-robert-f-kennedy-jr-to-be-top-health-official-212802309.html
EXCERPTS
Vaccine stocks continued to fall in premarket trading on Friday, following a sharp decline on Thursday, after President-elect Donald Trump announced he would appoint Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to head the Department of Health and Human Services.
Shares of Moderna (MRNA) and Novavax (NVAX) fell over 1%, while Pfizer (PFE) stock also slid. Shares of both Moderna and Novavax are now down more than 30% over the past month….
On the flip-side,
the previous day, Thursday Nov 14, Bloomberg headline…
Palantir Shares Are Defying Increasingly Skeptical Analysts
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/palantir-shares-defying-increasingly-skeptical-105956443.html
EXCERPTS
Palantir Technologies Inc. is confounding skeptics, with the stock continuing to push higher even as some on Wall Street question its sky-high valuation and the sustainability of the company’s revenue growth.
Shares in the artificial intelligence software maker are up more than 250% this year, with a chunk of the gains coming since last week’s estimate-beating earnings. Donald Trump’s election victory has also added momentum, with bulls pointing to management connections to Trump and the potential for an AI push by the new administration to boost sales. The stock was slightly lower in early trading Thursday.
The latest rally has propelled Palantir’s already-pricey valuation even higher. The shares trade at around 135 times forward earnings, a huge premium to the average ratio of companies in the Nasdaq 100 Index at about 27 times.
It’s also the most expensive stock in the S&P 500 Index on an enterprise value-to-revenue basis.
For some, the gains have gone too far, with two analysts downgrading the stock in the past week.
The “fundamentals are alive,” but Palantir would have to accelerate sales growth to 40% for four straight years and trade at 12 times its estimated 2028 revenue just to hold its stock price, Jefferies analyst Brent Thill wrote, saying that this “seems unlikely.” Consensus estimates are for 26% growth this year and 24% the following year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Thill cut the stock to underperform, citing its unsustainable valuation.
WORTH NOTING…
The three founders, Thiel, CEO Alex Karp and President Stephen Cohen, will have at least 49.99% voting power through their Class F shares in perpetuity even if they sell other shares…
https://corbettreport.com/how-palantir-conquered-the-world/#comment-170003
I thought that was funny too.
One can at least hope that we might get at least a couple of things good out of Trump this time around.
One can hope, but I’m not too optimistic about that. If the crazy Zionists in the government try to limit free speech and throw people in jail for “anti-Semitism” that’s a very bad thing.
If the immigration isn’t reversed, that’s another bad thing and if the solution being pitched for that involved a digital ID and CBDCs that is also very bad.
So we’ll see. If one were to look at Trumps history of who he surrounds himself with even early on, it’s not too reassuring.
RE: Immigration
RFK, Jr. – “Health and Human Services”
HHS is in charge of the children who come across the border.
Thousands of kids are unaccounted for.
Corruption and human trafficking is rampant.
Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson – AUDIO
After Hours: Whistleblower: US Govt. Implicated in Child Trafficking
26:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G316botcg4
Again I am finding out that the situation is worse than I previously thought.
Human trafficing is a huge problem and has been a focus of mainstream healthcare for at least 5 years now.
Wealthy people exploit desperate people for their depravity. It is stomach turning.
There was a radiology tech at one of the hospitals I worked for who was exploiting illegal migrants. He was essentially involved in slavery. He was caught and sent to prison, thankfully. But it was quite a shock to people who had worked with the guy.
Some people can disguise their evil with superficial charm and hide behind a benevolent career.
What Illegals receive when entering US
7 minutes – First 5 min are English then Spanish follows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXRGhgbvWrw
Dear Border Czar: This Nonprofit Boasts A List Of 400 Companies That Employ Migrants
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/dear-border-czar-nonprofit-boasts-400-companies-employ-migrants
The article includes a link to…
“How Shadowy Network Of NGOs Supplies Mega-Corporations With Migrants To Exploit Cheap Labor.”
Look at the bright side… SOMETHING good is better then nothing good. 🙂
I’ve been keeping an ear on the Pete Quinoes show, and he is cautiously optimistic about some of the developments- its not like any of these people are our friends but having slightly less of an enemy for four years would be nice.
At the end of the day everyone just better get themselves ready, I’m glad Trump and co won, and will probably be glad if they get kicked out. TBH had we had another four year of the same it would be over for most of the US, maybe we’ll get 8 years before its that bad now.
The more their messing with each other the less time they have to mess with us
And the biggest bad thing would be a war with Iran. That would be a disaster. Not only evil but a failure. The Zionists are evil psychopaths. They are demonic.
IMO
War, in and of itself, is bad, evil, a disaster and represents a failure on the part of our human family regardless of who the war involves.
Feeding into an industry that specialized in organized mass murder is unwise each and everytime, no exceptions.
I agree with you. There are some who view war in terms of what’s good for them, which is morally wrong IMO. But even if we look at it from that perspective, a war in Iran is not one that would be of any benefit to Americans.
Some could argue that WW2 benefited the Americans that survived because the war economy elevated the standard of living of many people. I don’t believe that is an ethical way to view war, but many people are just looking at what’s good for them.
Even people who have high standards of morality may view things in that way. Only when their personal comfort is at risk will they understand why things are a bad idea.
@cu.h.j
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and perspectives on this.
I think “high standards of morality” is a highly subjective, culturally fluid and temporally fluctuating dynamic, I mean, there was a time when it was considered “immoral” for women to choose what they want to do with their own body (consensual adult sexual choices without male authority being given etc).
Modern industrial civilization is the embodiment of the commodification of all that is immoral, yet according to many, because we have indoor plumbing and ipods to endlessly scroll on we are the shining examples of “civilized man”. Without clearly defined metrics, perceptions of “high moral standards” on the part of one person, will often mean very little, if anything to another person.
I do agree with you that people willingly throw other humans under the bus to pad the comfort levels of their lives and that most are squeamish of anything that threatens their comfort zone, though at the same time I have met some extraordinary human beings that made the choice to transcend their comfort zones which inspire me.
Some people are raised (or conditioned) to be who they are via choosing passivity and the path of least resistance, and others are Forged, through facing adversity head on and going out of their way to help others of their own free will.
What path each of us choose is up to us, and God looks into each of our hearts and knows the truth either way.
Deep inside each persons heart they know that picking up a gun to go kill another person is wrong, surface justifications and rationalizations are secondary to the knowing in one’s heart, we can dismiss our own God given intuition and choose to go along the wide road of ease, apathy, greed, fear and vanity, or we can walk the narrow road that requires mental, emotional and spiritual work.
One path leads in circles (until we finally choose to learn the lesson) and the other leads to the evolution and unfolding of our eternal spirit as we grow and unravel our unique gifts to be in greater service of life and creation.
War is NOT a failure of the human family, war is a product of the Zionist attack upon humanity.
The statement, all wars are banker’s wars is true, wars have goals, goals the combatants are totally unaware of. WW1 & 2 were all to destroy Germany, create Israel and start laying the ground for the Zionist NWO. The Iraq war was certainly not for freedom or to get imaginary WMDs, nor was it even about oil for America, Israel got that oil. But it was about destroying Israel’s arch enemy, as well as draping another crime against human around the necks of Americans (they love it when they can get us to do their immoral crimes for them, then use it against us later (See: the slave trade).
They want us to think humans are warlike, you see them push that nonsense endlessly in their media, but humans just want to be left alone. 83% of the US population did not want to get involved in WW2, so the Communist Zionists that controlled Washington created Pearl Harbor. And after Pearl Harbor, traitorous POS FDR was ready with “his” well crafted speech to push us into war, ala George Bush circa 2001.
They created the division, then sit back and reap the rewards. They created Christianity and Islam, then pit us against each other for the next 1000 years. We have been fighting immoral and self-destructive wars for the Zionists for a very long time. So few look at Islam and Christinaity as a system created for conflict, yet that is what it has consistently done. One can only imagine how much better Europe and the Middle East would have been without the blight of the Abrahamic religions. And that does not even get into the Dark Ages and the crime of seeking knowledge, when seeking knowledge is heresy.
@Rexleonum
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Regardless of who uses false flag and psychological/economic warfare tactics to attempt to instigate wars, the only way a war can happen is when everyday people decide to follow orders to pick up a gun and shoot at other humans (or in the case of the high tech mass murdering statist regimes of today, pick up a joystick and start flying predator drones via satellite uplink and blowing up villages).
So whether or not “Zionists” are the blame for all the sneaky instigation and throwing fuel on the fire activity, the fact remains that when people choose to go along with anyone’s schemes that want us to engage in warfare with other humans, we have failed as a human family.
Who ever works to start, perpetuate and profit from war, are just other human beings, assigning them labels intended to segregate them somehow is (IMO) a waste of time and a potentially slippery slope.
Thus, I stand behind my statement above.
All War, in and of itself, is bad, evil, a disaster and represents a failure on the part of our human family regardless of who the war involves.
As I mentioned before, I think some of the inventions and such that came from western civilization aren’t bad and some have attempted to improve the lives of others with plumbing, electricity, some modern medicine, etc.
I even think the invention of guns have been helpful for some people. These inventions will always be sought by some humans. It’s how we use them, which should be governed by morality.
Indeed many people know war is wrong and it damages them. But people will probably keep engaging in it for a long time to come. It’s very sad.
Human beings do awful things all the time. No one is perfect, some do less harm than others. Many think in terms of what’s best for them. The impulse to survive is a basic instinct for most.
Some less technologically advanced peoples are similarly barbaric. There are still cases of human sacrifice and cannibalism in Africa. People harvest other human beings organs in organ trafficing operations. There’s a lot of really horrific things people do to one another
There are many psychopathic people out there, some of them very wealthy and powerful and others poor. That is something that might not go away. It’s good to keep that in mind.
I too have met good people and I still keep in my mind that there are evil people out there too who can’t be reached.
@cu.h.j
Firstly, I would like to invite you to watch this short clip on “The trajectory of Industrial Civilization, Statism and the inherent totalitarian nature of some tech”:
https://youtu.be/ImbnWSkqfig?si=EQ4b56JIPtIE-w-s
Secondly, I would like to pose the same question I posed to you recently regarding the type of mining operations that are necessitated in order to perpetuate the status quo of our modern industrial civilization (perpetual growth and updating/repairing the electrical grid, getting more rare earth minerals to make more high tech gear for the “medical” system, computers, vehicles etc) regarding if you would be willing to allow an open pit hard rock mine to be put in your backyard if that was what it took to keep the our industrial modern society running?
Would you be okay with a lithium, or iron or tantalum, or silica or cobalt hard rock mine being put right beside where you live (knowing that each and everyone of those operations has historically poisoned the water table and soil in the region surrounding it) ?
@cu.h.j
Regarding all the fearporn, doomporn and “othering-porn” (which increases one’s feeling of self-worth by designating large other groups of people as less than) you shared above about cannibalism, organ markets etc, I am personally more interested in focusing on that which is positive, actionable, solutions based and applicable and relevant to my local community and bioregion than all that noise.
Psychopathy is mostly learned, and the small fraction of humans that are brain damaged from birth and lack empathy as a baseline mental/emotional state pose no threat within the construct of tightly knit, reciprocally connected, trust nourishing, well communicating and physically capable community of human beings.
Only when humans create Aberrations such as concrete jungle cities of millions and statist regimes does it become possible for the tiny number of born psychopaths to thrive, lean into their psychopathic traits and use them to harm others (while prospering).
Thus, the answer to mitigating psychopathy is to severe ties to said Aberrations, and instead create, nurture and build upon regenerative, reciprocal and local community based relationships (get to know your neighbors and work with them to accomplish common goals) and learn to become a living example of solutions, compassion, courage and peace (rather than living in fear, with locked doors, guns and isolationism).
Saying “the invention of guns have been helpful for some people” is like saying “the invention of the guillotine has been good for some people”. We are talking about machines and technologies designed to end human life, self-defense tech and techniques exist that do not require the ending of life, thus, the inventions of (and continual manufacture of) guns, like the perpetuation of war, represent a failure on the part of our human family, not a success.
If human beings were fully accessing and making use of their God given gifts of innovation, courage, humility, compassion and determination, we would invent and apply other technologies and techniques for solving the problems you (and others) feel that guns solve. Our failure to do so as a human family is an expression of our collective social and spiritual immaturity, and is a state of being that our family will, in time, learn to grow past/transcend.
Evil is a made up human idea, which means just about as much as “high standards of morality”.
For me, it all boils down to whether or not a human is taking action to discover their own unique gifts, and using them in service of life, honoring creation and giving back to their community, or not.
Those attributes are clearly observable and they are things I can see in others in my circles (or not) and thus I organize my association, interaction and collaboration with my fellow humans accordingly.
G,
I’m not sure there is a totalitarian nature in some technology. I’ll have to think about that.
I mean is mining always bad? Is it inherently evil to dig up and remove lithium and other metals for creation of tools?
It’s wrong to force people off of their homes and destroy vast amounts of natural habitat and expand into natural spaces. People are enriched by nature and perhaps nature is enriched by us.
But there are some things I like having, like electricity, heat, plumbing and even the internet. I even like satellite internet. I like having antibiotics and access to surgery if I need it.
I even enjoyed some cities before the scamdemic.
I am not equipped to live as an indigenous person and am not sure that’s for me. I’m also not equipped to live in a totalitarian “blade runner” like society or a place like China, a totalitarian nightmare.
I’m also a big proponent of harm reduction and pragmatism rather than rigid idealism. I think balance is important.
@cu.h.j
Thank you for reading my comments and responding.
RE: “I mean is mining always bad?”
Well, as with your usage of the word “evil” and “high standards of morality” it all depends on how you define those terms.
If exterminating all life (trees, fungi, insects, animals) from the surface of the Earth of a particular region, and then poisoning the water table and soil in the region is how you would define “Bad” then Yes.
If your definition of “bad” is more vague and open to interpretation based on minimizing the perception of harms done, downplaying how significant they are and justifying why “sacrificing one forest and a few lakes is no big deal when compared to all the civilized wonders we can create” than, no, its not bad at all! In fact, in that context, mining is great! It is helpful to move “progress” along towards the glorious Ecumenopolis.
This summons to mind something I pondered and wrote about in the past pertaining to the question of “Are There Limits To Growth?”
What if (as advertised) development really is “sustainable”?
If we continue to be wishy washy with our own morality and willingness to protect and nurture what is left of the more than human world, their advertisements are a certainty.
Or as Dr. Seuss wrote “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It’s not.” – The Lorax
This is not a question of going back to the stone ages or living in teepees or mud huts, this is more a question of how much of the Earth as God intended it are we willing to protect, how many of the growing digital and comfort addictions in our lives are we willing to let go of in order to starve the corporate beast that feeds on the Living Earth like a parasite?
The question boils down to what kind of world you want to live in and leave for those that will be here after we are gone.
Making excuses for the one million and one tiny steps forward to extract, exploit, destroy and poison the natural world because “well it is only one tiny forest, lake and community, how much do they really matter compared to the advancement of civilization?” will, if we are selfish enough, lead us entertain another question:
What if, as the billionaires and government industrialists would have us believe, there are no limits to growth?
And who knows, maybe God and the living Earth will not stop them (and us via our support and purchases) from desecrating all the beauty and diversity they put here, and humans will be allowed to turn this world into an Ecumenopolis. But is that really a world worth living in?
https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/are-there-limits-to-growth
Cont.
When I mentioned human expansion into natural habitat, I mean that it is wrong if the encroachment is unmitigated by reciprocity and/or some type of benefit. Or if it is “overly” intrusive or destructive.
Human beings exist and some will “destroy” or modify natural places to some extent. It’s a give and take, at least it should be. A wise person understands that. It’s common sense.
There are lots of things to consider and and some nuance to these types of questions about technology.
But some humans will want to explore and build complex things. This must be tempered with ethics and morality.
G,
Actually some elitists do put forward the narrative of “limits to growth”. This is while they are also responsible for much environmental destruction and mass murder of human beings.
There’s a lot of Malthusianism in environmental discourse nowadays. He studied bugs and applied that to human beings. I think he was full of shit.
However the idea that human beings should destroy vast amounts of natural habitat for cities is not something I condone. I think there are some places that should be left alone and that human beings need to share with other life forms who also have a right to survive.
But human beings also do a lot of good by studying human impacts on the natural world and ways to mitigate damage because many human beings recognize the importance of nature. That kind of empathy and altruism also exists in humanity.
There is evil and there is good in humanity and evil may always exist. To me it is important to try to balance things out.
When I built my house I had to destroy or rather modify some of the land in order to accommodate me. But I have also improved some things to mitigate this. Many people do this too. They destroy some and also improve some things.
I don’t know enough about small scale mining operations to have an opinion about if I think they are always unethical and exploitative.
I know that I enjoy some technology put it too good use. Even the internet a DARPA creation has been used for good purposes. Guns have been used for good purposes like for self defense. They’re great tools for women to know how to use because they are more vulnerable to attack.
One could argue that some technologies are only harmful like atomic weapons. I don’t really see any positives there. Also some types of genetic engineering and/or “gain of function” research.
I think ethics should always guide technological discovery and applications but I know that they don’t. But now that there are many “cats out of the bag” how do human beings mitigate it?
@cu.h.j
Thanks for the detailed response.
That is a good point about the oligarchs using greenwashing tactics that preach about protecting the environment, when I asked the questions in my other comment it was more in the interest of providing a shift in perspective in what “progress” and “development” really means (and where it inevitably leads when it necessitates exploitation of finite resources and turning that which is biodiverse into that which is a monoculture and a stack of uniform products on a pallet or a walmart shelf).
Regardless of what the plutocrats are spouting off about, just listen to the terminology and take a look at it closely, use it as a starting point, take a look around you at this cross section of time and space we live in on planet Earth, and then project our trajectory into the future. If we “sustain” developing everything around us (which is really a euphemism for throwing cultures, communities, human and non-human, biodiversity, beauty and uniqueness into the meat grinder of industrialism, turning it into commodifiable and uniform products and then selling that which people once accessed for free back to them in a adulterated state) the inevitable end result is that we will have sustained that process of “development” until the whole world is “developed”. What would that look like ?
Well, if you look at satellite timelapse images of any city that exists near forests over the last couple decades (or a sat image of where I live now) you can see what “development” looks like. It actually really closely resembles the way cells organize themselves in a Metastatic Melanoma.
Check it out (video is 48 seconds long, shows timelapse footage of some cities for a couple decades):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNJa86tErQ
Before you say “Hey Gavin, stop hating yourself and buying into the propaganda and seeing humanity as a cancer!” I will clearly state that I do not think of our human family in that way, rather, as Derrick Jensen highlighted in that video I linked to you above, I think certain technologies, do necessitate (as well as motivate the increasing aggression of) totalitarian, parasitic and exploitative systems (and thinking) which in turn represents a self-destructive system, for it feeds on the living planet that sustains us all until the biosphere is crippled and we end up having to buy bottled air).
RE: “the idea that human beings should destroy vast amounts of natural habitat for cities is not something I condone. I think there are some places that should be left alone”
I admire and respect your stated stance on that aspect, but then the question becomes, how exactly are you defining “vast amounts of natural habitat” ?
And what exact places “should be left alone”, and how many of them?
And why do those places deserve to be left alone and not others?
The devil is in the details.
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RE: “I don’t know enough about small scale mining operations to have an opinion”
Well, perhaps this analogy in the form of a question might clarify the nature of mining.
You mentioned organ harvesting in another comment so lets use that as the example.
Some people on Earth might really like organ harvesting and it is something they want to continue, so when you tell them about how unethical, exploitative and insidious that industry is, they might say to you:
“What about about small scale organ harvesting operations? Can’t we keep organ harvesting just a little bit (as long as it’s ‘small scale’ and we try to ‘mitigate’ the damage?”
Mining is defined as “the process of extracting useful materials from the earth.”
Tantalum, Tungsten, Lithium, Cobalt and Iron are not laying around and able to be gently picked up for use, they are found only in industrially applicable usable concentrations in ore veins deep in the rock underneath forests or large salt plain marsh habitats. If you want to mine those minerals (which keep our industrial civilization going and “progress” moving forward in cities and factories) you have to blast that land and rock to pieces, carve into the bones of the Earth, extract her organs, pour sulphuric acid and other chemical solvents into her veins (rivers, lakes, ground water) and other parts of her body and leave a gaping wound where there was once life.
RE: “Guns have been used for good purposes”
I already highlighted that other technologies and techniques are effective for self-defense in my other comment so that is not really a solid argument for seeing a massive global corporate empire continuing to manufacture increasingly deadly killing tools called “guns” as “good” and “ethical”.
Why a gun and not a stun-gun, pepper spray, taser or other potentially non-lethal self-defence tool?
RE: “One could argue that some technologies are only harmful like atomic weapons.”
I could play devils advocate and argue that nuclear fission tech (whether in the form of a weapon or a reactor) is a wonderful invention of the highly civilized “white culture” and it provides many jobs, helps act as a “deterrent” for war and provides lots of yummy tasty “green”/”sustainable” energy for charging our Tesla cars.
If we get all wishy washy and vague in what is going too far, and what is exploitative, vs being non-exploitative, and we keep expanding moral gray areas to justify our modern conveniences we find ourselves quickly sliding down the slimy slope of arrogance and justifications that led to the the place where I now live (being at one time old growth and food forests from horizon to horizon) now being 99.9% deforested, and covered in government subsidized GMO corn, soy and cannabis fields/greenhouses, strip malls, factories, urban suburban clone houses sprawling endlessly in all directions and nuclear power plants.
We are at a point where “mitigate” is not enough.
@cu.h.j
For some additional insights on what “mitigating” harm (while going on with business as usual) I offer some thoughts from Avika Silver (pages from his book titled “Trees Of Power”).
The subsection in the chapter i`ll share in two links below (to two pics of pages) is titled “Wreck The World Slower”.
https://archive.org/details/arborealallies/IMG_2690.JPG
@cu.h.j
“Wreck The World Slower” excerpt part 2 :
https://archive.org/details/arborealallies/IMG_2690.JPG
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Akiva really walks the walk with regards to what he talks about in that excerpt (lending his time, energy and resources to creative not fear based endeavors on this Earth) BTW. Earlier this year he gifted me hundreds of ready to germinate Shagbark Hickory seeds from his farm in New York for a community food forest project I am workin on here in Ontario.
We are capable as humans of doing so much more than “mitigating” harm, we are capable of being agents of regeneration, keystone species in our bioregion and vectors for increasing biodiversity, beauty and abundance.
G,
I happen to own a car and I like having it. I actually have two cars, one that gets good gas millage and a truck that I use on dirt roads and I that can haul things with.
One of the issues with technology is that large greedy psychopathic oligarchs monopolize the way technology is produced so that people are always needing new stuff instead of building something that lasts.
I think the term is planned Planned obsolescence. Products used to last a very long time minimizing production of things that waste resources.
In some cases it is not the thing itself that is evil but the way greed and psychopathy has become woven into production of the thing and to what civilization means.
The guy on the youtube video mentioned something interesting though about evolution and how people who lived in places that were near rivers with food did not need to develop technology (I think that’s what he said). I think there’s truth in that.
Peoples who evolved in harsh environments needed to develop ways to survive and now that is a trait that is there in those humans. That’s not going away. Even if you think that is a negative trait at this point, I think that’s hard wired in some people.
So I think a good place to start would be to localize technological development and to go back to building things that last. Surely people can do this but because that option means less profit for large greedy corporations, they won’t.
How to stop large cancerous corporations from destroying the planet? That’s the question and I don’t know. But I don’t think me giving up my car is the answer. Some basic things like that are useful to be honest. Having access to an MRI to me is useful.
Again, I think some technology is helpful and can improve lives when it is produced to last and when there are limits to it’s use of natural resources.
A lot of this “green” tech is more wasteful than the old tech. Even solar panels have a negative impact. And wind power too.
@cu.h.j
Re: “I happen to own a car and I like having it.”
Me too, though, I could also do just fine and enjoy life without one if I had to or chose to.
It all comes down to that question I keep asking you about whether or not you would be willing to live with a hard rock open pit mine in your back yard or not. I have asked myself the same question as (up until relatively recently) I purchased new tech items that require that type of mining in order to be manufactured, and so thinking of the golden rule (and extrapolating what that means via the impact of my purchasing power) when I decided my answer was No, that meant reconsidering buying more and more newly manufactured modern convenience/gadget items if I was going to stay honest and true to my moral compass.
So, for the third (or maybe forth or fifth time?) I ask you, given all that we know about what it takes to perpetuate our lives of modern convenience, technological comforts (and addictions) and given we know that mining is required to perpetuate that status quo, would you be willing to have a mine in your back yard (“small scale and damage mitigated version” or otherwise) ?
RE: “The guy on the youtube video mentioned something interesting though about evolution and how people who lived in places that were near rivers with food did not need to develop technology (I think that’s what he said). I think there’s truth in that.”
Firstly, thanks for watching, and secondly, I do not think that is what the guy was attempting to express.
He described an example of salmon staying more fresh in the river than they would be chopped up in a refrigerator (exemplifying the inherent wisdom of preserving biodiversity, clean water and intact forest ecosystems as these facets of our shared environment directly influence the amount of nutrient dense food that is available to human and non human beings at any given time) but that same statement would be true of people living on the great plains (using controlled burns to enrich grassland and attract the buffalo) or way up north (where the people in the arctic circle see the waters as alive, intelligent, deserving of respect) and then apply biomimicry to learn from how the Polar bear hunts seals and how the grizzly gathers salmon.
What one human perceives as a “harsh environment” is perceived by another as full of beauty, opportunity, wise non-human teachers, food and medicine. Ecological literacy changes the dynamics of perception of a place drastically. Also, many places that now appear “harsh” or desolate, were not that way 500 or 5000 years ago, and are in fact, manmade deserts, wastelands or monocultures.
There are many mining sites from the Roman Empire era that are still toxic and devoid of life today.
I agree regarding mainstream solar and wind tech. According to one study, between now and 2050, solar and wind “development” threaten to destroy as much forest as urban sprawl and expansion of oil and gas, coal, and mining combined.
G,
No, I don’t want a pit mine in my back yard. Absolutely not. I wouldn’t want anything that’s going to make me sick and poison my land and the other creatures that live on it.
I don’t really have a lot of modern gadgets. One computer, a dishwasher, washer/dryer, and fridge. In fact, my husband got an old washer and dryer that are better than the new ones.
I think we could learn a lot for some indigenous methods and attitudes about how to live in balance with nature. I think there are many people who feel the same way. I think we should leave people alone and not force our ways on them and scale back our influence and intrusion into their cultures.
There’s a guy who just moved into the area I live in now and he moved a lot of earth to build his house. It looks awful and I was annoyed by it. But he doesn’t live next door and he isn’t expanding into the entire area, so there’s nothing I can do and it is his little space he can do what he wishes to. It’s his little plot of land.
If people can keep their little bit of destruction and ugliness localized, it’s something I’ll probably put up with. When it becomes intrusive though, that is a problem.
What I think civilization means honorable interactions with others and “the golden rule”. I think that’s a fundamental “natural law”.
@cu.h.j
RE: “No, I don’t want a pit mine in my back yard. Absolutely not.”
Me neither. And if I am not willing to subjugate myself to living that way (or perhaps dying slowly that way might be a more accurate description) how can I force that existence upon others (when that is what modern day new tech gadgets necessitate and centralized conveniences call for) through buying products that fund open pit hard rock mines being built beside (and in) other people’s back yards (when i claim to value and live by the “golden rule”) ?
That is the quandary those of us face which are aware of what it takes to keep all the ipods, and the e-cars and the gas cars, and the MRI machines and the rest of industrial civilization running smoothly who also genuinely seek to live by the golden rule.
RE: “In fact, my husband got an old washer and dryer that are better than the new ones.”
Ya I feel ya on that one, before I made the unilateral decision for myself to stop buying new gadgets and tech that requires mining recently we had gone through 7 new dishwashers in less than 5 years (due to powergrid surges frying the microchips that are caused by the local thousand acre chemical soaked government subsidized Cannabis hydroponic greenhouse operations flicking on and off their grow lights, which drown out the stars with their blinding artificial glow). We have gone without a dishwasher for about a year now.
It has been a great opportunity to practice what I preach in posts like this:
https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/washing-the-dishes-like-your-bathing
RE: “I think we could learn a lot for some indigenous methods and attitudes about how to live in balance with nature. I think there are many people who feel the same way. I think we should leave people alone and not force our ways on them and scale back our influence and intrusion into their cultures.”
I appreciate that line of thought, and depending on what “scal(ing) back our influence and intrusion into their cultures.” would look like in action, I might be able to get on board with that.
I mean, in many ways, just like the plants that some choose to dramatically deem “invasive!” (which have now seamlessly integrated themselves into the cycles of ecosystems far from where they originated) some people from vastly different cultures interact, engage and reciprocally connect with very different cultures in a way that leaves both that individual and the culture in question permanently enriched in measurable and meaningful ways.
Context is important, sometimes a cross pollination of seeds or cultures serves the betterment of all involved. If you have ever eaten and appreciated anything made from corn, that would not have been possible without the cross pollination of wild grasses, careful tending by indigenous corn cultivators and then the cross pollinating of cultures which imbued corn into becoming perceived as a facet of “american” culture.
Thanks for the candid and thoughtful response.
G,
I do think that there needs to be a reclaiming of what “culture” consists of and if a people are going to survive probably have to do this.
What do they want to preserve? I need to actually research my own ancestral culture and learn about it because I really don’t know much about it.
I think tradition and narrative are important parts of culture. So what are the narratives that haven’t been contaminated by “elites”? I don’t really know yet.
I do know that some of the settlers who came to America did try to interact in more respectful ways towards American Indians. And I know that the way things turned out were very destructive towards many of the different tribes and I think reconciliation should include helping them to restore their way of life if they are amenable to it.
I know for a fact that “our” diet of “food” and alcohol is extremely toxic for them evidenced by astronomical rates of diabetes, heart disease and alcoholism in American Indians. I’ve never seen such sick people in my life. I mean these things are toxic for us, but way way more toxic for them. If I were an American Indian, I would avoid those things like the plague.
Regarding technology I do know that products used to be built to last and that minimizes waste. I also know that people are smart enough to invent things that don’t require waste and destruction. It can be done. Genius can be used for good rather than for greed.
Specifically related to some medical technology, I don’t want to go without MRIs and I think mainstream medicine does have some things that can benefit all, especially as people are “detoxifying” from all the crap. And I do actually use MRIs for my own health and I’m glad they exist. They are much better way to get a scan of soft tissue, safer and provide a much more detailed image.
Nuclear energy is a mixed bag. I really don’t know enough about it say if it has ever been safe or if a safe way to use it exists. Maybe it isn’t. I really don’t know. I do know that it shouldn’t be used for weapons.
I think that there has been a deliberate effort to destroy culture and it’s true meaning though and that real culture is vital for humanity. Human beings are social and need community and real interactions with one another. They need tradition and stories and family and friendships, etc.
I really like what you are doing with your work and I think you make a meaningful contribution.
@cu.h.j
“I do think that there needs to be a reclaiming of what “culture” consists of..”
That sure leaves a lot of room for interpretation regarding what that actually looks like for implementation of this “reclaiming” process you mention. Also, what “culture” exactly are you suggesting should be “reclaimed”?
How are the parameters of said “culture” defined? and by whom?
“Canadian Culture” for instance, is a mish-mash of cultural influences from all over the world, imposed over, and sometimes hybridized with the original indigenous cultures of this land. How would one go clearly defining where “Canadian Culture” ends and “European Culture” begins? And what of the dozens of other prominent multiple cultures (which are distinct linguistically, culinarily and socially) influences on “Canadian Culture”?
If one was to try and say that “Canadian Culture” is now being diluted, adulterated or otherwise degraded in some way by the influx of immigrants from some specific region, and that we should “reclaim” “Canadian Culture”, when exactly is the time period we are trying to reclaim?
What cultural influences (of which there were many, no matter how far you go back, which were each instrumental up until any given point in the history of the nation state of canada) which were each instrumental in defining said culture, up until that point in time, are to be included and approved as worthy of preserving? How far do we go back?
If you go back far enough, the indigenous culture and way of life in this land was more prominent than that of the settlers, and they mingled and interacted (sometimes reciprocally, sometimes in hostility). Smart and humble early colonists learned from the locals how to forage, hunt and cultivate native food crops to survive (many that refused to out of arrogance and racism starved). Is that the “culture” we should “reclaim” as people born in the nation state called Canada? Or perhaps we should “reclaim” the version of Canada when Trudeau’s father engaged in his own version of the Freedom Convoy police state tyranny ? (for context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc ) People like my brainwashed parents and their friends, would say “heck ya! Trudeaus are the best!”
I could pose the same questions regarding the United States, as even though Canada is a younger statist regime, the multi-cultural influences (horticulturally, socially and spiritually) in the US are similarly diverse in their beginnings.
So what exact temporal cross section of “american” “culture” do you think is worth “reclaiming”?
1776 ?
perhaps a pre-federal reserve act 1900 america?
or what about a 1600-s “america” where as I described above the lines between imported and native culture was far less distinct?
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RE: “I think tradition and narrative are important parts of culture. So what are the narratives that haven’t been contaminated by “elites”? I don’t really know yet.”
In truth, every single last culture has been contaminated by them, just watch JC’s excellent Media Matrix series and you can see how infiltrated the minds of people all over the planet have become.
The notion of preserving distinct cultural ways of being in a world hyper-connected by the internet is as much an exercise in futility as me obsessing over controlling the exact genes that are present in my heirloom garden crops via all kinds of weird control freak-ish techniques used by conventional seed breeders like “emasculating flowers” and trapping bees in bags with flowers to force them to pollinate one flower etc (some of which I explored in this book review: https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/april-and-mays-book-club-review-of ).
Unless you wanna live in a lab or a bunker (or become a genocidal totalitarian isolationist regime proponent) the pollen of other cultures is always gonna be nearby, floating on the wind and capable of influencing and cross pollinating your own cherished culture. That is life, God did not make Earth with a bunch of hermitically sealed domes where each distinct race and culture would life in complete isolation, he made what you see.
I choose to make the best of it and align my energy with creativity and giving life and beauty to cultural facets I feel are worthy of propagating into the future. Perhaps, those seeds will take hold and flourish in fertile hearts and minds, or perhaps other seeds will out compete them, either way, the journey is going to be joyful, beautiful and nourishing to my spirit and I am not gonna spend any of that time being fearful or trying to control others so I can feel better.
I was being facetious regarding nuclear fission tech, I do not think it is a mixed bag, I think it is the pinnacle of idiocy, arrogance and self-destructive tendencies on the part of humans.
RE: “I think that there has been a deliberate effort to destroy culture and it’s true meaning though and that real culture is vital for humanity.”
You are right about that, the oligarchs want to create de-humanized, “trans-humanized”, homogenized (and not bio-regionally loyal) humans for their global cattle farms.
The way I resist that and undermine their plans is not to fight against or fear cultures with racial ancestry different than my own, but rather, to set my cultural roots down deeply to the land where I live, to apply ,my gifts here to be in service of this land, to create traditions that honor the land that feeds me and traditions that serve to severe our community’s ties to hyper-centralized statist and oligarchic systems. As I explained in my essay on germinating the ancient seeds within, that culture I seek to nourish is more defined by actions outwardly, than genetics inwardly.
Thanks for the comment.
G,
“How far back do we go”? Good question. There’s some evidence that there may have been “advanced” civilization in areas before Indigenous people lived in the US. Do the people who lived in a place first have claim to the land? Not necessarily.
I think there is nuance there. And that that discussion is outside of my knowledge base at the time being. I will have to do research to have a meaningful opinion at this time, so I’ll table that for the time being. Perhaps a future discussion.
What I know is that I do see a lot of value in European culture that is distinct from Indigenous culture and the culture of other races of people. I don’t know about the Culture of China before the cultural revolution and even ancient China, so I can’t comment on it. I do know that there are traits that races of people have if you look at groups though.
Those traits are real if we look at groups and there is some genetic reality there that has an impact on behavior. This doesn’t mean a person should be judged on the group from which they derive. There are outliers of course. There is a natural process of assimilation that can happen when two populations are in proximity. In the past this was more gradual rather than forced like what “elites” are doing now forcing immigration into European countries.
What they are doing is harmful and unnatural and perhaps even detrimental to the people who are migrating.
There is a natural tendency for people to associate with people who are similar and most people do this. Where as some people assimilate and you get genetic admixture and new traits in a population because usually people are procreating and continuing their genetics.
I don’t think there is a magic formula here because human beings are pretty complex beings. Gut bacteria and their genetics influence host genome as well.
Some people are all about genetic engineering of human beings and very materialistic and think people can be boiled down to chemistry. I don’t think that is accurate. But I do think there’s some truth to genetic influence on behavior that is reinforced by environment and circumstances.
For practical reasons, I think it may be more difficult to resist because instead of working together people will fight with one another. Look at the BLM riots in the US in 2020. That was a slap in the face for me. It changed my perspective about working with some groups of people. For my own personal safety I moved far away.
@cu.h.j
RE: “There’s some evidence that there may have been “advanced” civilization in areas before Indigenous people lived in the US.”
Cool! How do you define “advanced”? Did these super advanced people design food production systems that still function (autonomously and without the original architects of those food production systems being present to tend them anymore) to this very day?
The people of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy from my neck of the woods did.
RE: “Do the people who lived in a place first have claim to the land?”
Not in my books, I would define the worthiness of a group to be the rightful stewards and decision makers for a landbase by a measure of those that have (over multiple generations, exemplifying their cultural traditions are sound and have continuity) enriched the biodiversity, natural beauty, flood/drought resilience and living soil depth. Fancy buildings, weapons or ornamental stuff means very little if that culture is degrading the ecosystem that supports it, and is, in fact, in the process of slow-motion suicide (as much of modern high tech western civilization is now).
I define the social and technological advancement of a culture by those metrics, as even the use of controlled fire (for enriching habitat) and propagating trees via inoculating seeds with ideal microorganism mixtures (both things some members of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy engaged in) is a form of technology, and through wielding said technology they co-created marvels of ingenuity that far surpass the practical use of any weapon or manmade building. Food Forests that persist for centuries are the result of the application of technology and indicative of the fruits of a highly advanced culture indeed.
RE: “What I know is that I do see a lot of value in European culture that is distinct from Indigenous culture and the culture of other races of people.”
I was just reading a passage in a book that speaks to the distinctions between European culture and the various indigenous cultures of people living in the Eastern Woodlands in the 16-17 hundreds. I`ll share a pertinent passage or two below, and also invite you to read the few pages I have uploaded to archive dot org for more context.
https://archive.org/details/1491colonistsindigenousviewsonliberty1
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on what is presented in those pages. I will share some select excerpts in text in another comment which speak to the significant influences of the people, customs and beliefs of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy (pertaining to equality, personal liberty and morality) on the Europeans that arrived on their shores (people that were often fleeing tyranny/poverty in Europe I might add) and how substantially those cultures shaped what many would now describe as quintessentially “American” or “Canadian” ideals and cultural facets.
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Select excerpts from “1491 : New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus” By Charles C. Mann
“As for the Indians, evidence suggests that they tended to view Europeans with disdain as soon as they got to know them. The Wendat (Huron) in Ontario, a chagrined missionary reported, thought the French possessed “little intelligence in comparison to themselves.” Europeans, Indians told other Indians, were physically weak, sexually untrustworthy, atrociously ugly, and just plain smelly. (The British and French, many of whom had not taken a bath in their entire lives, were amazed by the Indian interest in personal cleanliness.) A Jesuit reported that the “savages” were disgusted by handkerchiefs: “They say, we place what is unclean in a fine white piece of linen, and put it away in our pockets as something very precious, while they throw it upon the ground.” The Mi’kmaq in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia scoffed at the notion of European superiority.
If Christian civilization was so wonderful, why were its inhabitants all trying to settle somewhere else?”
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“Benjamin Franklin was equally familiar with Native American life; as a diplomat, he negotiated with the Haudenosaunee in 1753. Among his closest friends was Conrad Weiser, an adopted Mohawk, and the Indians’ unofficial host at the talks. And one of the mainstays of Franklin’s printing business was the publication of Indian treaties, then viewed as critical state documents.
As Franklin and many others noted, Indian life — not only among the Haudenosaunee, but throughout the Northeast — was characterized by a level of personal autonomy unknown in Europe. Franklin’s ancestors may have emigrated from Europe to escape oppressive rules, but colonial societies were still vastly more coercive and class-ridden than indigenous villages. “Every man is free,” the frontiersman Robert Rogers told a disbelieving British audience, referring to Indian villages. In these places, he said, no other person, white or Indian, sachem or slave, “has any right to deprive [anyone] of his freedom.” As for the Haudenosaunee, colonial administrator Cadwallader Colden declared in 1749, they had “such absolute Notions of Liberty, that they allow of no Kind of Superiority of one over another, and banish all Servitude from their Territories.” (Colden, who later became vice governor of New York, was an adoptee of the Mohawks.) …
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… Rogers and Colden admired these Indians, but not every European did. “The Savage does not know what it is to obey,” complained the French explorer Nicolas Perrot in the 1670s. Indians “think every one ought to be left to his own Opinion, without being thwarted,” the Jesuit Louis Hennepin wrote twenty years later. The Indians, he grumbled, “believe what they please and no more” — a practice dangerous, in Hennepin’s view, to a well-ordered society. “There is nothing so difficult to control as the tribes of America,” another Jesuit unhappily observed. “All these barbarians have the law of wild asses — they are born, live, and die in a liberty without restraint; they do not know what is meant by bridle and bit.”
Indian insistence on personal liberty was accompanied by an equal insistence on social equality. Northeastern Indians were appalled by the European propensity to divide themselves into social classes, with those on the lower rungs of the hierarchy compelled to defer to those on the upper. The French adventurer Louis Armand de Lorn d’Arce, Baron of Lahontan, lived in French Canada between 1683 and 1694 and frequently visited the Huron. When the baron expatiated upon the superior practices of Europe, the Indians were baffled.
‘When an Indian Child has been brought up among us [Franklin lamented in 1753], taught our language and habituated to our Customs, yet if he goes to see his relations and makes one Indian Ramble with them, there is no persuading him ever to return. [But] when white persons of either sex have been taken prisoners young by the Indians, and lived a while among them, tho’ ransomed by their Friends, and treated with all imaginable tenderness to prevail with them to stay among the English, yet in a Short time they become disgusted with our manner of life. . .and take the first good Opportunity of escaping again into the Woods, when there is no reclaiming them.’
Influenced by their proximity to Indians — by being around living, breathing role models of human liberty — European colonists adopted their insubordinate attitudes, which “troubled the power elite of France,” the historian Cornelius J. Jaenen observed. Baron d’Arce was an example, despite his noble title; as the passage he italicized suggests, his account highlighted Indian freedoms as an incitement toward rebellion. In Voltaire’s Candide, the eponymous hero is saved from death at the hands of an imaginary group of Indians only when they discover that he is not, as they think, a priest; the author’s sympathy with the anticlerical, antiauthoritarian views of Indians he called “Oreillons” is obvious. Both the clergy and Louis XIV, the king whom Baron d’Arce was goading, tried to suppress these dangerous ideas by instructing French officials to force a French education upon the Indians, complete with lessons in deferring to their social betters. The attempts, Jaenen reported, were “everywhere unsuccessful.”
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… In the most direct way, Indian liberty made indigenous villages into competitors for colonists’ allegiance. Colonial societies could not become too oppressive, because their members — surrounded by examples of free life — always had the option to vote with their feet. It is likely that the first British villages in North America, thousands of miles from the House of Lords, would have lost some of the brutally graded social hierarchy that characterized European life. But it is also clear that they were infused by the democratic, informal brashness of Native American culture. That spirit alarmed and discomfited many Europeans, toff and peasant alike. But it is also clear that many others found it a deeply attractive vision of human possibility.
The Huron, he reported in an account to his American years, could not understand why:
‘one Man should have more than another, and that the Rich should have more Respect than the Poor. … They brand us for Slaves, and call us miserable Souls, whose Life is not worth having, alleging, That we degrade ourselves in subjecting our selves to one Man [a king] who possesses the whole Power, and is bound by no Law but his own Will…. [Individual Indians] value themselves above anything that you can imagine, and this is the reason they always give for’t, That one’s as much Master as another, and since Men are all made of the same Clay there should be no Distinction or Superiority among them.’ [Emphasis in original.]
The essayist Montaigne had noted the same antiauthoritarian attitudes a century earlier. Indians who visited France, he wrote, “noticed among us some men gorged to the full with things of every sort while their other halves were beggars at their doors, emaciated with hunger and poverty. They found it strange that these poverty-stricken halves should suffer [that is, tolerate] such injustice, and that they did not take the others by the throat or set fire to their houses.”
I asked seven anthropologists, archaeologists, and historians if they would rather have been a typical citizen of Europe or the Haudenosaunee in 1491. None was delighted by the question, because it asked them to judge the past by the standards of today — a fallacy disparaged as “presentism” by social scientists.
But every one of the seven chose the Indians. Some early colonists gave the same answer. The leaders of Jamestown tried to persuade Indians to transform themselves into Europeans. Embarrassingly, almost all of the traffic was the other way — scores of English joined the locals despite promises of dire punishment. The same thing happened in New England. Puritan leaders were horrified when some members of a rival English settlement began living with the Massachusett Indians …
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..So accepted now around the world is the idea of the implicit equality and liberty of all people that it is hard to grasp what a profound change in human society it represented. But it is only a little exaggeration to claim that everywhere that liberty is cherished — Britain to Bangladesh, Sweden to Soweto — people are children of the Haudenosaunee and their neighbors. Imagine — here let me now address non-Indian readers — somehow meeting a member of the Haudenosaunee from 1491. Is it too much to speculate that beneath the swirling tattoos, asymmetrically trimmed hair, and bedizened robes, you would recognize someone much closer to yourself, at least in certain respects, than your own ancestors?”
– pages 363-366 (from “1491 : New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus” By Charles C. Mann)
Cont.
Speaking from my own personal situation and the people from which I derive, I come from a mixture of Austrian Germanic, Eastern European Jewish, English and Dutch. My family on my moms side was a mix of Jewish and Austrian and as ethnocentric and tribal as Jews are, my great grandpa fell in love with an “Aryan” woman. He wanted to assimilate and this would have been possible had the political situation at the time not had been what it was.
So, I’d probably be unwelcome in some “all white” communities. If those are the boundaries they have, I’ll accept it. I will say however that I am much more drawn to European culture than tribal Jewish culture. In my opinion, Jews are some of the most tribal isolationist people in existence. And their “elites” are extremely destructive and use the skills of their people to destroy for the most part.
However, in my personal case, the genetics I was given even from my Jewish ancestors were pretty good to be honest.
My point is that I am not speaking from a personal position of being some genetically “pure” person. But a person who recognizes the value in European Culture and person who would much rather assimilate into that culture. I see more value in it than the other culture from which I derive.
My point is that I do think that there can be some benefit to genetic diversity and sometimes not depending on the traits that are desired. The idea that people are interchangeable and just bags of chemicals is wrong. But I also think that if a people want to stay genetically distinct have a right to do so and there may be benefit to it.
And to be honest, I do think that there are some races of people who have more intellect than others that have the ability to fight against the “cognitive” elites who wish to destroy humanity.
I don’t see anything like what James Corbett puts out exemplified by any other culture. If we are to survive in human form, we need minds like his. I think this is why the “elites” are pushing their immigration agendas. They want to destroy the old to make way for their new.
cu.h.j
I enjoyed that. The emotion that induces comes from somewhere, but exactly where? Reductionism slices and dices but it seems to fall short of a full explanation. What?
Our gut and brain interconnectedness and symbiosis is overlooked by the reductionist descriptions. We just don’t know . We don’t know how that works.
We seem to be more than our constitute parts. Is our genetics just a framework of negotiating parties to arrive at survival or just existence? Modern Medicine is a blind and false religion in how it behaves . Like the blind men trying to describe an elephant parable,story.
Are we more than our genetics and constitute parts? I’d say ask the trillion or so entities that make us who we are.
That leads me to the nano particulates and who they are aimed at. We have many very small parts and they IMO are the target of these end time monsters in power presently.
That’s a topic for another time and place.
G and cu.h.j
What a topic!
I’m gonna jump in with a idea that ties your two dialogues together in a way you may have never considered.
Why do the Jews hate the Iranians so much and driving Americans into a destructive war? Presentism? Maybe. What?
G- The logical evolution of religion, fetichism, the abject masses of men, such as the Eskimos, the Australian Bushmen, the jungle-dwellers of Africa. ( Comte.Positive Philosophy, circa before 1880) Even among them ( the Hebrew), a worship of teraphim crept in ( Gen.31:19-35), together with other corruptions
( Josh 24: 14 ); and the terrors of Sinai were needed to clear away polytheistic accretions. Elsewhere the degenerations had free play, ” a dark cloud stole over man’s original consciousness of divinity, and in consequence of his own guilt and estrangement of the creature from the one living God took place: man, as under the overpowering sway of sense and sensual lust, proportionally weakened, therefore, in his moral freedom, was unable any longer to conceive of divinity as a pure, spiritual, supernatural, and infinite Being distinct from the world and exalted above it.”
( Rawlingson’s; Ancient Religions,pp175-176.)
In other words the Jesuits of darkness, constant and beholding to slavery and material treasure were dumb founded by the Natives purity of spirit that manifested in liberty of the man from the darkness of men from Judaism, Egypt and Aryan noble blood of Europe. They were hardly possessed of morals or laws of the less advance peoples of darkest Africa.
Franklin had to be aware of this, as did the select adept of the halls of Freemasons.
Why you may ask? Zoroastrianism, very akin to the description you cite from C.Mann describing what the Jesuits observed. FreeMasons were aware of the Four Laws of Zoroastrianism. Piety,Purity,Veracity and Industry. G you can appreciate this: ” He who tills the ground is as good a servant of religion as he who presents a thousand holy offerings or ten thousand prayers. [ Arare est orare.] ‘ Who is the fourth that rejoices the earth with greatest joy? It is he who cultivates most corn, grass and fruit. What is the stomach of the law?It is sowing corn again and again’. To cultivate the soil was thus a religious duty; the whole community was required to be agricultural ; and either as proprietor, as farmer or as laboring-man each Zoroastrian must ‘ further the works of life’ by advancing tillage.’ ( Seven Monarchies,ii. 48, 56.). The
Masonic Presbyterians say this of Zoroastrianism. ” The writer has purposely refrained from emphasizing or enlarging upon the imperfections of the Zoroastrian system, because, whatsoever may be it’s faults, there is no other form of religion outside of the Bible which in pureness of doctrine, clearness of view as to the hereafter and beneficent influence on daily life can be compared with this. Let us fondly trust that many Magi, following the dim star of their Sosioch, have come ere this, with gifts ….for the true One.
generalbottlewasher,
I don’t agree with reductionism and don’t think it accurately explains phenomena. While I know the studies of genetics are imperfect and still poorly understood exemplified with the gut-brain connection adding additional complexity, it does explain some things.
Meaning that there is a genetic component to group differences and individual differences. How big is it? I’m not sure.
The other issue as to why Jews want to bomb Iran. I think some of them are insanely living out a self fulling prophesy layed out in the Bible. Somehow they think this narrative keeps them intact. If I’m speaking of Jews as a group, I’d say they are paranoid racists far greater than any other ethnic group is accused of.
G,
I though the passages you linked were interesting, insightful and also hilarious. Those stinky French who never took a bath in their life! And not only that, they were ugly and miserly. I wouldn’t want to interact with those French either.
I thought it was interesting that settlers in the US were influenced by some American Indians. There were different tribes and I know they were not the same as far as traditions and culture.
As I said before, I’m not some isolationist but I believe in a gradual introduction and honorable interactions. I certainly wouldn’t go intrude into some American Indian territory if I was not welcome and I certainly wouldn’t try to impose my ways on them. I really wouldn’t impose my ways on anyone.
I think when I mean American culture, I’m referring to the ideas of liberty and adherence to natural law. Sort of how some of the founders envisioned things. Without the central banks and such.
When I think of “advanced” culture, I see that being development of language, philosophy and science. I can understand what you are saying. An advanced people must learn how to exist in the world without destroying it and going extinct. And if a people are advanced, they improve the world before they leave in order to continue the miracle we find here on earth.
So I understand what you are saying. I do think that part of civilization is critical to basic survival.
@cu.h.j
RE: “the passages you linked were interesting, insightful and also hilarious. Those stinky French who never took a bath in their life! And not only that, they were ugly and miserly. I wouldn’t want to interact with those French either.”
Agreed, glad you thought so too. The poor stinky, dumb and ugly french, had a tough go of it yes, I suppose beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
I think it is worth noting that the lacking personal hygiene and a general cowtowing attitude of “deferring to one’s betters” which the Huron and Mi’kmaq were observing in the French in those passages would have (in large) applied to the majority of other peoples living in (and arriving from) Europe at that time (my British ancestors and your Dutch ancestors included). All those silly ideas about how starving oneself of sunlight meant one was more “refined” and similar nonsense, widespread idiocy in Europe at the time.
I especially enjoyed the part in the book about how the colonial lords and lieutenants had to be careful not to be too oppressive and nasty to their underlings as they always had the option to “vote with their feet” (leave the colonial outposts/forts and make a life in the midst of the indigenous towns and villages, which many , apparently preferred to living under the tyranny of statism and monarchy).
Of course, being a pleb and a peasant underling had some benefits (and many apparently still think it does as they have similar roles now in the tyranny of statist nations, with a little more shiny veneer and “democratic trimmings” covering up the “brick wall at the back of the stage”) as you get to feel safe in the knowing that you are on the team of murderers that organize themselves to dominate others in the name of “your team” and maybe, just maybe, if one is an obedient (and hard working pleb, they might get some of the spoils of war).
Though on the other hand, being a free human being was more appealing others (and it is now appealing to some living at present as well).
The Critiques offered by various indigenous diplomats and everyday village folk of the Eastern Woodlands in those days of European culture (documented in books like 1491 and The Dawn Of Everything) are (IMO) not only insightful, they are actually still an accurate critique of what the imperialistic cultures of Europe from that time have morphed and evolved into today. 4 centuries later, still beggers on the street starving while others live in mansions.. still a miserable failure as a culture (then and now).
However, in your deep (and my deep) ancestral past, before many of our great (great 17 times) grandmothers were burned as witches for practicing their indigenous place based herbal knowledge by imperialistic regimes, we had roots that were native and indigenous to a place. Those ancestors are worthy of learning from, their culture was far more advanced than that of kings, queens, peasants, soldiers, starvation, arrogance and 1000 years of mass murder.
They would have to be actually STUPID to start a war with Iran.
There is no way to win it without going full genocide and nerve gassing them all. DO you really think they could make a draft fly, even with Trump in office? lol, not gonna happen
Pete QUinoes, why war with Iran cant be won.
I just linked to the YT, better to listen on his site
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAI8GaLOr2Y
I think they are insane and “demonic” and very dangerous “people”. Not stupid, but extremely tribal and dangerous and not giving a crap about the US.
I worry about censorship, digital ID and CBDCs. If they get that kind of technocracy going, that’s very bad for us. Regular people would be almost like slaves. I really don’t want to live in a place like China.
I fear people will get complacent with Trump because they want to believe and will find reasons to believe even though logically we may be thrown under the bus.
I am glad you are optimistic though. I can’t predict the future, so who knows.
“……I worry about….”
Me too, but you really cant do anything about them except get your own life in order and harden yourself against their effects.
Fear comes, I think, from not doing what needs to be done- After you’ve done what you can its just down to fate, or rather God.
“….Regular people would be almost like slaves. …”
The depressing realization is that a majority of people WANT to be slaves, not abused or hurt, but told what to do and taken care of.
We can WISH people were different, but its just shaking your fist at the clouds and raging against the weather. The ONLY thing that will get people to NOT go along is a fear of what Technocrats will DO to them, and thankfully a significant minority of people ARE getting scared.
Cont.
Re: washers and dryers and dishwashers, the old ones are better.
My grandma had a dishwasher that is 25 years old and it still works. It words very well actually. I have an old washing machine for clothes that is probably 30 years old and the dryer might be that old. They are much better than the new ones. Some cars can last for over 300K miles and engines can be rebuilt to extend the life of the car.
It just takes effort to learn how to make these things last and/or buy things that are made for quality and longevity. Always getting a newer gadget is unnecessary. I had a couple of Ipods that are now defunct and I even had a couple of Iphones too before I knew that they design their tech to need upgrades to increase their profit. I stopped buying Apple products.
@Duck
What are your thoughts on this development?
https://anti-empire.org/p/trump-assembles-a-war-cabinet
With the assumption that ‘Trump’ is a figure head for competing interests it will depend on which faction gets its way…. us normal humans should just be taking the breather to get ready for a generalized disaster.
I think its POSSIBLE that they will pull a Woodrow Wilson with Trump being a war president- its without doubt that the lower class whites who do the bulk of the actual fighting would be MORE likely to get behind Trump then Harris…..
but I think the focus will probably be something smaller like Gaza because the US is weak now.
I do not THINK they will continue too much longer in Ukraine, there is not really any benefit that I can see vs the risk.
I do not think they will hit Iran (see video) because its basically unwinnable without a Draft and EVEN Trump wont make that fly. He is also vain enough that he wont want to be the guy who got 30 or 40 thousand Americans killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAI8GaLOr2Y
I think the US will start on China, because thats the only enemy that actually is a threat to the US AND that we can engage with a hope of winning….they HAVE to win a war because LOOSING means loosing power.
That said the Jewish hatred of Russia driving war in Ukraine might take them too far, but the jews backing Trump appear (from what I hear) to be more pro-zionist then GloboHomoSexual.
THAT lends itself to starting trouble with Iran…. but if they do it will probably NOT fly for long. But historically Jewish power ALWAYS over reaches so they may try a bit of bombing- maybe on the reactors.
My money, if their sane, is a try at peace keeping in the middle east that fails in 6 months or so, with a big side bet on some kind of conflict with China – I can NOT really see the Chinese hitting Taiwan because its only a matter of time before they get it back anyway. Maybe the US will false flag something in the Philippines?
Long term I’m pretty sure Israel will stop being as much of an issue in US politics because it wont be there anymore…. which means war with china.
I think we’ll see some kind of crack down on immigrants, how effective who knows? and IF WE’RE LUCKY some down sizing of the government. I wont hold my breath though…. the danger will be that they will be trying to slide in Technocracy while doing that but I guess we’ll see how well it works.
@Duck
I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
So you do not see any civil war type situations unfolding in your neck of the woods in the near future?
No, I dont think YET.
I think MAYBE there will be some trouble, esp. if Trumps people decide its time to degrade their enemies (Elon Musk would be have ended up in jail had Trump lost)
I think Academic Agent is correct and MOST of the old Elite have made peace with the idea that Trump was going to win…. if so the mobs will stay home since their just puppets
The BLM/Antifa riots can only happen when their owners organize and fund them… and even if they DO try that this time around I think they will only be able to burn down Anti-Trump cities ( so no one will care)
Charles Haywood (Of ‘the Worthyhouse’) thinks the left will try an actual coup and fail. If that happens it will Trump the mandate to go full Hitler on them, so I dont know if their really that stupid.
I’ve been monitoring some forums and sites and there is a lot of whining and moaning and virtue signaling but mostly from well off, soft, people. There may be a few hardcore people who blow things up, – or better yet set themselves on fire (LOLOLOL) – but any real action will have to come from the Government.
I think Civil war cant happen for another 3 years or so if it does.
Thats what I think, anyway, but I’ve been wrong before, lol, so dont take my financial advice
Transhumanism is the nightmare depicted in Dr Who as Cybermen.
Did listen to this great convesation, and had some well placed nuggs and crums on the varius subjects we encounterd.
It felt like two freinds haveing a give and take , naturally. not the usual, stop talking ,so i can talk vibe. Well done gents. I do hope that you deside to have a talk in the future. Really enjoyd this.
And to all fellow Corbett heavyweights out there. Have a great weekend 🙂
I rewatching the ron burgendy saga last night.
Oh the crist . feel dumber then i did esterday
My experience on websites is there are always some commenters that consider themselves know it all’s and take up lots of posting space disproving it. No matter the subject,they have their cursor on Wikileaks or some other “fact” source and then cut and paste their way to “top dog” in their mind.
In regards to the truth about “UFO’s” and off planet aliens, etc., unless you are part of the millions of us world wide who have actually had close encounter experience you don’t know anything but cartoon knowledge.
Since most people get a great majority of the their beliefs, habits, insights, etc. from the propaganda arm of the controller’s…the entertainment industry, facts and reality have become so blurred that it is quite difficult for them to do much then mouth the same mis truths and lies about most subjects, and primarily this one. Sometimes out of simple ignorance, other times ego driven nonsense.
The controller’s, many who ARE off planet or Inner-dimensional entities with their brilliant but pathological powers/abilities have controlled the narrative quite easily, much like a PhD dealing with children.
Unless one has seen ships above them; had Zeta Reticulans or Peliadians a few feet away from them and then POP, gone; been taken up to their ships and treated with respect and kindness (no anal probe nonsense) to help expand one’s consciousness; and on and on, it is best to refrain from any pretend inside knowledge.
Reality can be used like one uses a remote to switch channels on a set…the game or news one was watching does not disappear, it is just on a different frequency of experience. The medicine men and women and tribal elders I have studied with could do that frequency shift, as well as others around the world in different disiplines of behavior (meditation, Ayahuasca, Peyote, etc.)
Life/reality is far, far grander and complex then most can imagine.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID (song)
https://old.bitchute.com/video/lMHyu4q52X3Y/
I see that Mr. Trump is being pushed as the 1st President of Space. Pretty foolish of course but a big lie regarding the “Space Force” being new considering Gary McKinnon’s hack 22 years ago:
>>Gary McKinnon (born 10 February 1966) is a Scottish systems administrator and hacker who was accused in 2002 of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time>>
“I found a list of officers’ names … under the heading ‘Non-Terrestrial Officers’. It doesn’t mean little green men. What I think it means is not Earth-based. I found a list of ‘fleet-to-fleet transfers’, and a list of ship names. I looked them up. They weren’t US Navy ships. What I saw made me believe they have some kind of spaceship, off-planet.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon
https://www.ufo-blogger.com/2012/10/british-hacker-found-evidence-of-ufo.html
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About 15 years ago, while doing another tour of the Rocky Mountain states in my van I spent some time in Livingston, MT urban camping in front of a Scientist/Engineer’s 3 story house on Calendar Street. He was a co-inventor of one of the big rockets (can’t remember, Saturn I think) and would get Secret Service check ups every so often.
He had also been working on a car to run on water but “…some guy in Florida did it before me.”
He is deceased now but then was in his dotage. The first snow of winter 2010 I believe I was still there and we were on his big porch looking at all the fallen branches and such and out of nowhere he said:
“We were on the moon long before Kennedy’s agenda.” :-O What could I say, it was obvious he shouldn’t have been explaining that sort of stuff to me??
I had already found out before that that in Los Alamos there was a machine they called the “Jump Room” that was much like the “Beam me up Scotty” thing that could get people across wide parts of the local universe to what in the old days were called “Forts.”
Like I said…Life/reality is far, far grander and complex then most can imagine.
A couple of years ago, I participated in a webinar with a friend that was set up through the NEJM and they were discussing, among other things, the use of machine learning in the diagnostic field of medicine. Studies are being done to incorporate machine learning (see “doctors training their replacements”) in the methods of reading imaging scans to detect cancers. The main reassurance was that the process would always rely on physicians to corroborate the findings. As a medical professional, I can see the benefit of having access to a mechanism that would verify a malignancy in an imaging scan. However, I feel the way this is being approached is a slippery slope to doctors depending and ultimately relying solely on a machine learning algorithm to diagnose.
I also understand that doctors can be fallible and make mistakes sometimes. I truly do see the usefulness of a method for confirmation of diagnoses, especially when treatment will involve an invasive surgical procedure. You definitely want to make sure you are seeing what you think you are seeing and not cutting into someone unnecessarily. I also know that humans sometimes have a tendency to get complacent when things are going well. Changing our perspective on medical care to one of prevention as opposed to reaction will take time. And in the meantime, we have people who are sick and in need of medical care. I think it would behoove all of us who have the ability to shift our focus on prevention as opposed to treatment after the fact.
We should continue our own research to find preventative solutions to chronic medical conditions so we can avoid those chronic conditions or at the very least, lessen their impact should they occur. We cannot foresee every outcome however, we have copious established medical literature showing us what happens when we do certain things that negatively affect our health.
James, thanks for the excellent conversation and I look forward to learning more about your upcoming book.
If you crowd fund the printing i`ll throw down on that (and i`m sure many others would too).
Also, if such an option to support the publication of your book becomes available, I will share any pre-order option you may come up with in my feeds to help get the word out.
Keep up the great work.
”MAGIC, in a sense, is REAL”
IMPORTANT
IMPORTANT James Corbett Quote.
28:49
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https://odysee.com/@QuiteFrankly:1/war-of-the-worlds%2C-meme-magic%2C-blueanon:e?t=1729
”Why do the put the all-seeing eye on the pyramid of every single dollar bill?
Why do they put the 666 in every corporate logo?
Why do they do this?
…it’s because, MAGIC, in a sense, is REAL.
At the very least, because They know that these ideas, these images, these mythologies, these narratives, shape our lives and our experience.
And can truly weave webs around us that we dimly are aware that are even there.
…we abandon all of that understanding to our own detriment.
Because we will be enslaved, ultimately, not by boots on the ground…
…but more fundamentally, people will enslave themselves because they are given a NARRATIVE that they can go along with.
And that’s why, I think these ideas that are being seeded into the public conservation right now….
…we do not understand how important these NARRATIVES are to shaping the future of humanity.”
— JAMES CORBETT
In the HOT seat…pinch me
”MAGIC, in a sense, is REAL”
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Kreskin explores the Power of Suggestion
https://youtu.be/AqNEEG7OKFk?si=yqCYAzYoI1eoaDUK&t=600
TA KRESKIN says:
“Now Mesmer felt –
He used to use magnets to cause people to react.
Then he found out it wasn’t the magnets that were doing it.
It was his hands. He felt his hands gave out some strange force.
We know it wasn’t his hands.
It was the Power of Suggestion.”
[TA Kreskin stands for “The Amazing Kreskin”]
I submit that Suggestion and Narrative are integrally tied.
In a way, “The Power of Suggestion” and “The Power of Narrative” are interchangeable phrases.
Certainly, “Narrative” could further be explored.
For example: “What elements and/or aspects of communication can be used to effectively influence others with a narrative?”
SUBTHREAD
Suggesting to You to consider “The Power of Suggestion”
https://corbettreport.com/november-open-thread-2024/#comment-170366
When you WATCH the above 1972 TV show Kreskin explores the Power of Suggestion, you will see a group of on-stage audience members react in all sorts of odd ways to Kreskin’s ongoing narratives.
Paul swears his chair is too hot!
Then others feel the same.
Later, the group experiences body sensations which include a prickliness. Some people complain of being pinched on the butt by their neighbor.
Whether you think the behavior is the result of Woo-woo, juju, a group conspired hoax, magic, or a clever performance trick – it really doesn’t matter.
What does matter is: “What did you observe?”
Remember the Pandemic era?
Do you recall how people reacted?
Can you get the image memories of the grocery store?
Everyone in masks. Social distance lines taped by the register. Some people wearing clear face shields. The endless bottles of hand sanitizers. Liquor stores were open while churches were closed.
Do you remember how people reacted to your personal pushback against the Covid-19 lockdown/masks narrative?
I certainly do. I never once wore a mask in a grocery store…and the mask police were really upset.
When I was passing out the few thousand flyers which exposed the false narrative, I had some very angry people going ballistic at me.
Even this 2024 Election Result – The behaviors on both sides of the aisle are worth noting. The Democrat’s meltdowns and the Trump religious-like euphoria of being saved.
My point is that Kreskin offers us an exterior look at “narrative” and behavior. It is only a TV show.
We can remove ourselves from the story’s narrative.
MAGIC, in a sense, is REAL.
At the very least, because They know that these ideas, these images, these mythologies, these narratives, shape our lives and our experience.
And can truly weave webs around us that we dimly are aware that are even there…
…people will enslave themselves because they are given a NARRATIVE that they can go along with…
…we do not understand how important these NARRATIVES are to shaping the future of humanity.”
— JAMES CORBETT
Recent examples of societal behavior influenced by narrative, by the power of suggestion…
Melissa Dykes walks us through the new norm of elite Universities…
Saturday Nov 16, 2024 – Truthstream Media
Why Are Ivy League College Students Being Treated Like Babies Now?
23:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2BojQJO3w
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Rl2BojQJO3w
Truthstream Media – by Aaron & Melissa Dykes WEBSITE
http://truthstreammedia.com/
Nov 7 – The Daily Mail
How the woke Ivy Leagues are handling the Trump’s election win:
Listening circles, coloring with crayons and canceled classes
https://archive.ph/ndDaQ
Nov 7 – The Daily Caller
Dartmouth Offers ‘Democratic Listening Circle,’ Psychological Counseling Following Harris Loss
https://archive.ph/0X9Ft
Nov 4 – The Free Press – By Frannie Block
Legos, Cocoa, and Coloring Books for Georgetown Students
At the McCourt School of Public Policy, officials are offering ‘mindfulness’ options to cope with the election. The only thing missing is a blankie.
https://www.thefp.com/p/georgetown-election-safe-space-trump-kamala
EXCERPT
10:00 a.m.-11:00 a.m.: Tea, Cocoa, and Self-Care
11:00 a.m.-12:00 p.m.: Legos Station
12:00 p.m.-1:00 p.m.: Healthy Treats and Healthy Habits
1:00 p.m.-2:00 p.m.: Coloring and Mindfulness Exercises
2:00 p.m.-3:00 p.m.: Milk and Cookies
4:00 p.m.-5:00 p.m.: Legos and Coloring
5:00 p.m.-6:00 p.m.: Snacks and Self-Guided Meditation
Thriller – Part 2 – By Irina Slav on energy
https://irinaslav.substack.com/p/thriller-part-2
What is climate psychology?
Well, per the Climate Psychology Alliance [LINK], it is “concerned with the emotions, and the social and mental processes that have contributed to the ecological and climate crisis, and our responses and processes of adaptation to it.”
How?
“We do this by creating shared spaces, networks and processes to explore ideas, to express what is often hidden or unbearable, to share emotions, to reconnect with our human and nonhuman kin, with our bodies and creative impulses and hope, in short, to help us all cope with these difficult truths and painful emotions.”
Just reading this creates a sense of hopelessness and gloom, and that, of course, is precisely the point.
You may feel just fine and perfectly connected with human and nonhuman kin, and your body, while you’re at it,
but if professionals tell you that you are actually suffering or, if you aren’t, you damn well should be, you might think twice.
Cue climate anxiety and we’re all going to die unless We Do Something….
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My COMMENT:
Did you catch that aspect of how THEY create a narrative?
“Professionals” “Experts” “Officially endorsed-looking website” “Authority”
Compare this to Kreskin where audience members consider that he can influence people.
And then he does.
People wear the narrative.
…just like Nike shoes, becoming part of the identity of being an agreeable group member.
Johnny Carson despised NBC execs –
Bette Midler, Ed McMahon, Doc Severinsen, Kreskin
I’ve heard several renditions of this story, but they all pretty much agree on this narrative…
https://bootlegbetty.com/2012/11/08/the-amazing-kreskins-favorite-johnny-carson-moment/
EXCERPT
…Kreskin made 88 “Tonight Show” appearances.
Although it’s hard for him to pick his favorite one, he fondly recalls the time when NBC brass got word of what he was planning to do to Johnny and they banned him from doing it.
That is, until Carson got wind of it and told Kreskin to proceed, all in an effort to ruffle some peacock feathers.
Kreskin put Carson in a trance and told Ed McMahon and Doc Severinsen to lift him and stretch him in between two chairs, with his head and shoulders on one chair and his feet on the other.
Then, Kreskin told the show’s previous guest, an up-and-coming singer named Bette Midler, to sit in the middle of Carson. After repeated protests and the fear that she would never be invited back to “The Tonight Show,” she reluctantly agreed.
Carson’s body was so rigid from the trance, that not only was he able to hold Midler without buckling, when Carson came out of the trance, he said it felt like a little baby was on his stomach, according to Kreskin….
@HRS
That creepy Orwellian “climate psychology” group think instigating stuff you shared made me think of this conformity experiment
https://odysee.com/@MikeMirror:8/Social-Conformity:1
With people increasingly disconnected from actually spending time in natural settings, forests etc, spending more and more time inside, with smart devices gleaming into their faces, people can easily be bombarded with all kinds of images of “climate psychologically distressed people” or what ever until they think it is normal and begin internalizing the doom and gloom/fear nonsense.
Only those that are actually nurturing a relationship with the real living world outside our artificial human habitation zones and digital hyperstimulation will be able to develop a clear psychological center rooted in being hopeful, joyful, inspired and confident in what is real, through their direct action to give back to the living world and thus see it prosper and thrive due to those actions.
Thanks for sharing.
Homie.
I think I found it.
The source of virtue signaling. The self hatred that is a constant reminder you aren’t in the program and are just…lacking still. Virtue signal harder. It’s the people who are hypnotized the easiest and fastest become the vaxxed, the Real ID’ d the tracked and the traced. They are the majority willing to compromise all to find one moment of peace from their hated self. Carrol Quigley wrote about the duality of Puritans and Killers.
I got https://corbettreport.com/ as my first result when typing “James Corbett” into my browser…maybe some trickery going on?
Maybe try doing the same from some normie’s device.
Recently (starting about a decade ago) I began to ask myself: “Why is zombie and vampire drama so popular?”
Is the vampire meme a physical representation of the voter who is sucked dry by the all-powerful authority figure? Is the zombie meme about the unquestioning, obedient ruled? Can you “reason” with a zombie or a voter who asks: “But who will build the roads?” Or, “We must have rules.” Or, “You can’t take the law into your own hands.”
All of which is an abdication of sovereignty, a forfeit of rights, a desire to have others think for us. “Us”, forcefully including, those who accept self-governance, self-reliance, self-responsibility and dissent from consensus.
RE: Meme Magic
Schwachkopf generally means “idiot,” in German.
Nov 14, 2024 – REMIX NEWS
Germany: Police raid pensioner’s house and drag him to court after he retweets meme calling Green minister an ‘idiot’
Massive police repression in Germany as war against free speech and basic human rights ratchets up under left-liberal government
https://rmx.news/article/germany-police-raid-pensioners-house-and-drag-him-to-court-after-he-retweets-meme-calling-green-minister-an-idiot/
EXCERPTS
After a 64-year-old pensioner retweeted a meme of Green Economy Minister Robert Habeck, in which Habeck was described as an “idiot,” Bavarian police raided the man’s house and arrested him. The crime has even been recorded as a “politically motivated right-wing crime.”
The man is accused of distributing a photo of Habeck via retweet, where Habeck is described as an “idiot.” The Bamberg prosecutor’s office indicates that this constitutes a federal criminal offense of “hatred.” …
…Those who criticize the Green party in Bavaria have faced prosecution before. A businessman, Michael Much, put up posters mocking members of the federal government, including Habeck and then Green party leader Ricarda Lang. He also had his house searched and the posters confiscated. The prosecutor was defeated in court, which determined the posters were a legitimate form of freedom of expression.
Notably, last week, X owner Elon Musk called German Chancellor Olaf Scholz a “fool,” on his platform. In response, the federal government reacted that “on X, you have Narrenfreiheit.” The term refers to freedom to mock the king, typically reserved for a jester.
Scholz himself responded that it was “not very friendly,” saying that web companies are “not organs of state, so I did not even pay it any attention.”
Apparently, for those lower on the food chain, such insults result in a massive police raid. The man’s phones were seized and all his rooms were searched.
Users have been acting with incredulity on social media, with one writing: “First election campaign posters leaked,” which showed police breaking down a door.
Richard Dawkins and Jordon Peterson are not mentally challenged, but ethically. Those two are all part of the matrix, people there to give just enough information to become credible, thanks to the fact that they are pushed by the establishment as “wise sages”.
On a side note, I will watch rather reputable pod casters lament over how many views this “influencers” will have, never inserting the caveat that that popularity is not only suspect but highly unlikely. You will have a creature like Nick Fuentes, guy comes out of nowhere with hundreds of followers. The first instinct should be to question his authenticity, one should assume he is Astroturf if you will, created by the Matrix to push some psyop, which both Peterson and Fuentes certainly do.
I think it is the idea of being in a actual matrix people have a hard time accepting, they would rather believe in a random chaotic world, because in that world there is a greater chance that things will go in a way the masters don’t wish. But that is wishful thinking, when Covid clearly demonstrated the level of control over the system AND their understanding of human psychology and how to control it.
Not only do they control the governments at levels I thought impossible, down to cities and counties (directly or through government handouts), but they even used movies and TV to systematically sow the seeds of the possibility of such a world killing virus.
Wiley Nickel, a congress critter, proposes “shadow cabinet” to combat Trump. Yes, you read it right. It’s out in the open.
https://youtu.be/O5CDKVome8s?si=gGA9QlaRQi5FuW6h&t=155