via Off-Guardian.org: The Independent Media Alliance convenes once again, this time to discuss the global roll out of digital identity programs. We talk definitions, use cases, cyber-ethics, personal lines in the sand and much more.
VIDEO COURTESY THE LAST AMERICAN VAGABOND BITCHUTE / ODYSEE
Panel Members: Ryan Cristian of The Last American Vagabond, Derrick Broze of The Conscious Resistance Network, James Corbett of The Corbett Report, Kit Knightly of Off-Guardian, Hrvoje Moric of Geopolitics & Empire, Hakeem Anwar of Take Back Our Tech & Steve Poikonen AM Wakeup.
Further reading:
https://abovephone.com/digital-id/
https://iaindavis.substack.com/p/the-britcard-psyop-what-is-true-digital
https://off-guardian.org/2025/08/05/quick-take-are-digital-ids-coming-piecemeal/
https://off-guardian.org/2025/08/20/gates-foundation-digital-ids-are-an-effective-tool-against-poverty/
https://www.mosip.io/news_events/identifying-a-billion
https://corbettreport.com/the-only-real-solution-to-digital-id-solutionswatch/
I posted on the monthly post about the more modern pop culture “Papers, please.” But I remembered someone mentioned about having a phone number that was purely internet-based (at least I think it was on this stream).
One thing to consider with that is having a regular number and a VOIP (internet-based) phone service. Banks and everything like that operate under “know your customer,” so you don’t want a number you use for privacy for that, nor do you want to give it out to people who are going to call you through lame-stream phone services (because they’ll link people through that).
Use a standard phone line for all your public stuff, and a VOIP line for all of your private stuff… at least while you can get some privacy in such service. So, in regards to James not wanting to give his phone for something like Telegram (which I would consider more valid lately than earlier), you have options based on how much you trust Telegram with your data.
It seems worth mention that there is already a network like mentioned. James, do you know of PGP or GPG? Here is more info…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy
https://www.gnupg.org/
https://www.openpgp.org/
The system supports the use of common servers for sharing of keys… It already has been used by military and spy agencies. It can be complex, and gets little promotion but has benefits. It provides a way people can communicate in known secure ways. Of course that be offensive to some people who don’t like such things – so there’s detractors who’d rather offer something easy to control.
It’s 5:30 am in the Midwest of the USA. Im at an international airport and have finally figured it out. Do the opposite of whatever they say to do. I’ve done this May of 2025 as an experiment. I passed through their lines of defence / security in record time. Now today , it’s protocol and proof we live in a simulation. I passed through even faster than in May. It is really non intuitive to do the opposite but once is luck and twice is proof.
No real id, which must mean I’m not real
No pictures, cause I’m not real.
No Chernoff 6g scanner, can’t see what’s not there.
Pat down wanted , immediately sent to the front of the line.
It’s unbelievable.
gbw, I hear ya.
Perhaps times they are a changin’?
Or perhaps you just got lucky twice?
I haven’t traveled for quite while but whenever I did
and refused the body scanners at the airports it seemed they
went out of their way to detain me as long as they could
to annoy me (and possibly miss my flight).
No front of the line for me!
Recently listening to this and other podcasts about “digital ID” the elephant in the room rarely gets fingers pointed at it. You have been propagandized and mind conditioned that you NEED a $1000+ surveillance machine in your possession at all time. And of course the children get one as well.
No, but, I, well, you know, I NEED it!
You don’t. With a dumb flip phone you can talk, listen, and text others. No APPS, none of that crap.
No, but, I, well, you know, I NEED it!
Wake the hell up. Ghandi said: “There is more to life than increasing its speed.”
Just look what “fast food” has done to people. Just tap your card and…
There are billions of us and not so of “them.”
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“A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.”
– Ezra Pound
GET OFF THE PHONE (song)
https://old.bitchute.com/video/2QbsxZOkIYjA/
I haven’t seen another flip phone (aka dumb phone) in years. I still hang on to mine, but have considered ‘upgrading,’ so I can call my son in Germany for free. There must be some other ‘dumb phone’ people out there, but I guess that they would all belong to people in our generation.
BTW, I, too, wrote and recorded a song dealing with this subject…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK4tOjnuUhQ
https://www.verizon.com/support/kyocera-cadence-lte/
Interesting song, good guitar.
Thanks, I hope you enjoyed it. Your songs are interesting, too. Now, all we need is a young audience…
This one was inspired by the website my first grandchild had, courtesy of his mother, before he was born. Although I had been in business for thirty years at the time, I thought his website was already better than mine, by the time he was born. I created the song in the living room of their little house, while he was being born in the bedroom. (18 years ago)
Despite playing guitar and harmonica every day, I rarely record.
The guitar on this version is played by my friend Bob, who supplied his home studio and harmony vocals for the take. The visuals were added recently (and hastily) with the help of one of my sons.
>>Thanks, I hope you enjoyed it. Your songs are interesting, too. Now, all we need is a young audience…>>
I’ve NO idea who is listening to my music, but they are, over 105000 views so far, about 100-200@day, BUT no comments or like votes much at all and under 200 subs for years :-O
Not sure what that is all about. Perhaps they don’t want to join BitChute (no $) ??
What application do you use for the visuals? I use an older version of iMovie, iMovie6 and I can’t figure out how to get clear stills :-/
Yeah, my biggest challenge is I live 50 miles from town on 47 acres and have no young people in my life. They know how to do all that sort of stuff hey?
I live in Dallas, TX. I do infrequent smaller gigs at libraries, etc., when I get a partner. If I wanted to, I could play every night at the various local jams and open mics, but wouldn’t get paid. There is even one for Classical Music, which I have been doing regularly for at least seven years. This is despite not being able to read music. But I get them to jam with me on Tchaikovsky, Bizet, etc. I have not really tried to be an internet musician, and probably never will.
>>What application do you use for the visuals? I use an older version of iMovie, iMovie6 and I can’t figure out how to get clear stills :-/ >>
Not sure what an “Internet musician” is??
Yeah the offerings of the big urban area.
Keep on strumming…
I didn’t do the technical part of the visuals, although I selected them, and made suggestions on which order to present them.
Just guessing, but you probably have all of the hardware and software to do stuff like this. Even more sophisticated graphics are possible now with AI. Paul Joseph Watson plugs something for that on his Modernity shows. The willingness and patience to master new programs is all that is possibly lacking. I am petty sluggish on that account, myself.
Hanky, with your flip phone you can switch from your current phone carrier to Tello.com, pay $8/month for unlimited talk and text, say “no” to data, call your son in Germany for free, and talk with him for as long as you want.
Tello’s reception is great (it piggybacks off T-Mobile lines) and its price unbeatable!
Thanks,
How long have you used this service?
BTW, The AI Copilot said I absolutely couldn’t talk to him free unless I got a smart phone…
To clarify, I can ditch AT&T and still have phone service for my wife and I for a total of $16?
My internet is also with them. I use a PC, and my wife watches movies on a laptop.
It is also getting very expensive; Do you have any suggestions there? I need my hotmail, youtubes, and photoshop, etc.
I’ve been a Tello customer for almost a year. Have had nary a problem.
I don’t know about group plans, but you can call Tello and ask that question and more. The service reps are very helpful.
What you said about the AI Copilot makes me grateful I’m no longer a Microsoft 365 subscriber.
Sorry, I’m not conversant enough in tech matters to answer your other questions or even to steer you to the right people.
Perhaps other folks on this thread can direct you to the experts who can help you and your wife put together a sensible, less-expensive plan, Hanky.
Thanks, again.
Once people adopt digital ID for logging into a service, the eventual next step is realtime monitoring of identity so people are always logged in and connected. After all, otherwise someone can log in as you when you are not logged in, and this would avoid impersonators using your identity.
Then why not add eye tracking and automatic emotion monitoring to determine people’s feelings about products or government policies so that anyone becoming “radicalized” against the government or system can be identified upon their first reaction and before they even have the chance to think about it or develop an idea about resisting or acting in any capacity.
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Ryanair to Enforce Major Boarding Pass Rule From Wednesday
From November 12th, Ryanair will no longer accept printed boarding passes as it aims to be the ‘world’s first paperless airline’.
Only accept 100% digital boarding cards from this Wednesday / Low cost airline claims this transition will offer a more “fast, smart and sustainable” travel experience
https://ground.news/article/ryanair-aims-to-become-the-worlds-first-paperless-airline-consumer-groups-critical
Is their official beer Bud Light?
Well, we could boycott them, as soon as we find a million customers to see and say that the Emperor has no clothes!
Qortal (https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-qortal/) is essentially an exit and build strategy for the internet. The front-end security is on your device, and the websites have to ask YOUR permission to decrypt onto your device.so its the internet but backwards. it’s slow but works, and will continue to speed up with more popularity, as the design aims to distribute the processing workload across the network. This solves number of logistical problems, and uses simple coding to build websites on the network. So anyone sitting at home with no job and with nothing to do can go develop a simple market-exchange-ecommerce type website in no time using simple html, c++, etc. code, (or the taboo AI tools available while they are STILL available). you can already buy goldbacks on there(https://corbettreport.com/living-fiat-free/ …btw goldbacks could be their own #solutionswatch, just go look at the sheer number of merchants listed as accepting goldbacks and cash on the merchant network https://www.goldback.com/pay-with-goldbacks). There’s already really cool drawing and brainstorming apps and music and videos and books and email and chat, all with a permission and reputation based system. Not only that, you can do RSS feeds in there(https://corbettreport.com/how-use-rss/). In fact, the whole thing operates on the participants devices electricity and not some data center! AAAaand! It doesn’t require water resources to run anything! Did I mention there’s an android app? You could in fact exchange digital payment privately peer to peer digitally or in person(no third party). Soo there’s your digital ID replacement right there. Or at least its a good start I think. What does everyone else think?
NUANCE
Maybe one way to fight this is with nuance
They are so good at strong-arming policies using a big fat binary, YES-NO
Perhaps through organizations like EFF / general public conversations, change the narrative of a yes-no digitalID towards a nuanced approach that allows very much for any reasonable notions of digital-ID (eg. ID on porn-hub) to be locked into that context only.
To start, one needs to conceptually separate the concept of digital-ID from age-verification – which specific areas / PRS (problem-reaction-solutions) do they serve? Then to very highly advocate to extrapolate real-world implementations of identity & access in general (ID for liquor shop, etc) over to the digital. Coupled into that conversation brings in history & why “carrying papers” is authoritarian & dangerous.
In summary 2 key points:
1) We need to somehow advocate for extrapolating real world, time-hardened solutions, over to the digital realm
2) An element of this is we need nuance around the digital-ID conversation. (In general we need nuance, as it seems non-nuance is an epistemological weapon they use to justify PRS)
“SOLUTIONS”
Another key aspect of the PRS tactic are the proposed “solutions”. These need more scrutiny. Many ways to skin a cat, & there or likely better & more feasible solutions to those being proposed. Developers / product analysts / tech blogs have a place here to scrutinize & present alternatives. These alternatives could be simple specifications, not full-blown products that are expensive to build. Perhaps a website of “alt-tech” solutions could host ideas + possible crowd-sourced specifications & possibly future feed into the network of opensource products.
An aside:
I recently attended an event part of a very unique & cool segment of society. My thinking was: If we exit & build, how hard it would be to eventually reach this pinnacle of uniqueness & therefore it’s imperative that we take back our society rather than rebuild. Again, nuance, this might not be blunt rule & likely we need elements of both in various situations. However, the waking up of people is an imperative part of the problem.
Key to that is breaking through, past the contrived amplifications & silencing. An important conversation such as this needs to be streamed across as many platforms as possible. It reminds me of the recent Technocracy Omniwar roundtable, that was hosted across the board: Solari, CHD, Twitters, Substacks, etc. This means your effort in these important conversations is amplified as much as possible. Please give some thought on how to cross-host & boost such a discussion again. I could only find it on the Corbett Report channel.
Thank you again, for all your incredible & hard work!
Great show guys!
I’m around the 51:00 minute point so far and it’s been very enjoyable to watch.
James the point you made about ‘papers’ is one I actually thought about last week.
I traveled to various countries in the past where you needed to carry your passport with you at all times if you were a foreigner and present it to the police if stopped anywhere.
You also couldn’t stay at any hotel without a passport.
This practice has been in place for decades and decades.
So we have been tracked/traced in many ways for quite some time already.
Digital ID will amp up this practice by a factor of 10 or more.
My hope is that the internet and communication between people/countries will still be accessible (without Digital ID) in time for nations to hear/see about the dystopian lives of other nations who have succumbed to Digital ID and refuse to accept that way of life themselves.
What struck me in your discussion about the Digital ID dilemmas is that there’s no simple strategy people can use whenever a red line is crossed.
I already experienced this myself:
in a pharmacy in Belgium, I was asked to use my digital ID — “for convenience,” of course, and to collect points and discounts.
I replied that it sounded rather F-model-like — a little too close to the old fascist logic of “efficiency first.”
The lady looked at me like a deer in headlights.
And yes, sometimes you just have to name things for what they are
especially when human dignity and fundamental rights are no longer protected,
not out of malice, but because the system was never trained to protect them.
Let’s be honest:
most programmers know nothing about rights.
They speak of efficiency, convenience, and progress.
When faced with ideas like ultra-utilitarianism, they often freeze.
At best they mention “ethics” —
not realizing that’s usually window dressing,
since “all stakeholders were considered.”
Maybe it’s time we look again at a 1990s idea:
The Strategy of the Dolphin: Scoring a Win in a Chaotic World
by Dudley Lynch and Paul L. Kordis (1990, Fawcett Columbine).
It describes three mindsets:
– the carp, who obeys;
– the shark, who dominates;
– and the dolphin, who plays with chaos,
communicates, and finds new cooperation in turbulent waters.
The shark plans the crisis.
The carp follows.
The dolphin asks: “What are we learning between the waves?”
Watch the BBC clip in YT “Dolphins trick fish with mud nets | One Life” (2011).
One dolphin stirs the water, the others instantly understand and move in sync.
They use the mud not to hide, but to create direction together.
Humans could do the same with systems like the digital ID
not as passive users, but as aware participants who turn patterns into play.
The only thing is …How far must things go before we remember the red line?
Is it when we lose comfort, or only when we lose everything?
Perhaps the lesson begins earlier when we realise that systems only endure through our compliance and trust is the last non-digital resource we truly possess!
Would we dare to lend our IDs? or even “lose” them on purpose?
not to sabotage, of course but to learn?
Or are we waiting for the real test — to see how much freedom remains before obedience finishes downloading?
And if the DID system teaches obedience, is there still room to answer with creative confusion?
a kind of monkey wrenching, a bit like dolphins shaping new waves?
Take the latest WhatsApp update:
AI now “helpfully” sits in the background, ready to access everything, everywhere.
Maybe this is our ww next experiment for to switch back to SMS for a while
and see what happens when we let it go.
What might we learn about ourselves, communication, and trust?
It’s not about rebellion, but about rediscovering human agility in a digital sea
remembering that, like dolphins, we were never meant to drown in data,
but to move, play, and stay alive between the waves.
Would we dare to lend our IDs? or even “lose” them on purpose?
not to sabotage, of course but to learn?
Implicitly, ‘Digital IDs’ mean Digital ID + biometrics.
A card or device that simply had a digital ID alone would be useless as a way to identify someone, for the reason you state.
It would be like having a passport without a photo.
When the banks eventually mandate biometrics to use their services (in person and online) they will be forced to admit that for decades the photoless banking cards that were required to do banking in person were just a means to simplify/streamline their
business process.
It had nothing to do with security. For anyone could give/lend/lose their bank card to anyone else.
Live in a large household or neighborhood or even family? Swap phones for each day or rotate using them with others when you travel around locally. I like to switch for periods of time even with my 12 year old grandkids. Talk about salting the data, LOL!
Now THEY are getting ads for dentures!
(None of us have social media accounts like FB we report to.)
Love this
I have entered the US many times as part of my profession up until a couple years ago (now I enter other countries some of which, ahem (Japan), make me give facial and fingerprint biometrics). Half of the time I entered the US, as a foreigner (a flight crew member), they didn’t even ask for my passport because they had ALL my info by the photo they had taken. Needless to say, Digital ID has been here for a while. The debate is, what’s the line in the sand? Ultimately, it’s when they say, do you worship, praise, recognize as lord xyz, that’s when I cannot comply. Until then, I will try to warn as many that will listen, what the culmination of Revelation 13 is, and how it’s playing out in realtime.
I’m confused about your lines in the sand James. You give your fingerprints but not phone number? Just get a fake phonenumber. You willingly gave your e-mail address to hakeem to be able to download his 30 page pdf on digital id (i didn’t download it because of that), what’s the difference between that and a fake phone nr?
I’m positive that the powers that shouldn’t be want all us dead or restricted to a digital feudal plot. But I think it will remain a dream. There just isn’t a bullet proof enough power grid to support this dystopian dream. I don’t think I will really be scared of this until the infrastructure exists to support it. Of course they will do their best to try to implement it anyway. But I will continue to cheer on every outage