Episode 371 – Going Viral

by | Jan 17, 2020 | Podcasts | 54 comments

So what does it mean to “go viral” anyway? No, no, no. What does it really mean? Join James for a philosophical exploration of memes, virality and the body politic on this edition of The Corbett Report podcast.

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  1. I get what you’re saying but nurturing the embryo is still conceding that we are of a greater body, and a mean bitch at that who won’t hesitate to abort. I see it as simply walking away and cutting our own paths, scattering seeds and cultivating all the while.

    But I admit, I do often employ the body image, particularly the one described in the book of Daniel, Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of a great statue and wonder about the feet and toes of iron mixed with clay: is it the global state vs the individuals worldwide who refuse to submit? That interpretation makes the most sense to me. OR it could be the reptilians vs the humans, OR… 😉

  2. Viral as in it needs to be killed and a forced inoculation against such…ahh. .wrongthink has to be stopped . eh? The inoculater? A screaming Me Me.

    Way way beyond comprehension , broadly, confusing as anarchism.

    In art history , all the 60 something bombs { real bombs} thrown in Paris in 1907 were , of course , thrown by Anarchasts which ushered in Cubism.

    Destablization and reductionism. Embryo s

  3. This is the seminal idea that is the root of all solutions – great talk Brother James!!!

    The idea of yielding to overcome is the foundation for the solution to this new world order dis-ease that infects the minds and hearts of the human race.

    Withdrawing from and taking our energy away from the system rather than fighting it is the answer…

    …but without enough people who are interested in freeing their minds from the grand illusion it can’t take flight.

    The nwo system thrives on the ignorance of the masses and time is certainly running out – it really is a shame when we really have all of answers and solutions; the causes are known so as to really heal this planet and the human race so it can blossom into its greatest potential. But the so-called elite, who are the handlers of the ignorant masses; and the ignorant masses even more so, who are really holding all the keys, is the one stone in the roadblock that can only be removed by individuals doing their own inner work. Only the individual can free their own heart and mind and that is what so many people avoid.

    In the end – there is no savoir coming because the individual is the savoir of mankind – and when the individuals living in the common reality, that only the Creator is the author of, will create a collective force that operates on its own – that is what will free mankind, if we can obtain it!

    Too many minds reside in the place of two dimensional thinking where they are easily caught in the dialectic – but ideas like what James put forth here is of a higher third dimension and that is where the creative thinking happens that sees the whole and the solutions it presents rather than the reductionist mindset that is blind, that enslaves and destroys what ever is touches.

    “Would you care for a game of thermo-nuclear warefare – no because the only way to win is not to play” – rough quote from the movie War Games

    • “In the end – there is no savoir coming because the individual is the savoir of mankind – and when the individuals living in the common reality, that only the Creator is the author of, will create a collective force that operates on its own – that is what will free mankind, if we can obtain it!”

      Well which is it? The individual or the creator and if the latter, which creator? There are claims to hundreds of them.

      This is what Nietzche called belief in a slave morality.

      Time to go beyond good and evil.

      Belief is the supernatural, whatever stripe, is disbelief in the power of human agency,

      • As I stated in the post —>> it is the individual!
        The Creator is the author of reality, not man. That was my point
        in regards to reality – reality is what is common to us and man
        does not create reality and if he thinks he does he is in illusion.

        One of the tricks of the luciferic deception was to deceive man into thinking that he is the author reality as it is a very popular idea in our times.

        When I say Creator – I mean it in the context of being beyond all form, meaning in a basic level that “it” is neither male nor female and yet contains the both. The one book that comes close to describing what I call the Creator is the Tao De Ching. It is the Tao and it is in everything and every where. Religion was created to control man and veil his true spiritual nature from him. In the end there is only one creator and it is nothing and everything – it is you and it is me and it is beyond you and me. Words cannot contain it – nor can it be understood… and so forth…

        Slave morality? in what context? True morality frees man and is uplifting, sure morality for the sake of putting on a show of it, is insincere and is false morality and is enslaving.

        Good and evil? There is the true good that has no opposite and then there is the dialectic of the seeming good or the false good and then the manifestation of the evil opposite. But as there is true good there is also true evil at work whose foundation is found in error and fear. In the end it always consumes itself to a point as if it never existed – its only end is destruction.

        “Belief is the supernatural, whatever stripe, is disbelief in the power of human agency”

        I disagree – all of life is supernatural and founded on it. It is what empowers us. But from the lexicon in which you speak you most likely define supernatural as the unreal and make believe. Lexicon and context – the same sentence can mean 10 different things to 10 different people because they all have 10 different lexicons they see things from – it is one of the biggest problems with the english language.

        • I thought I’ll be the first to invoke Tao. It has a place in the debate how to free ourselves from nowadays nightmare.

          I don’t see it as a disbelief in human agency as @weilunion said. Human agency is very powerful, sometimes too powerful, we can destroy ourselves. Look at all the nukes, chimeras, stupid new space race, AI….. And then the most stupid explanation: we do it because we can (and, of course, I’m a pessimist always looking at the darkest side)

          Ones upon a time religion put boundaries on human agency, religion in a sense of a set of values outside a human being. Today people believe that literally everything is relative and there is no absolute. Everyone has his own subjectivity, he is a god to himself.
          Such a life philosophy together with necessity of survival and economic intensives drives people to be engaged in all kinds of nonsense like enumerated above.

          Certainly I’m against highly organized religion, kind of indifferent regarding spiritualism, but very much for establishing of a set of absolute values for humanity. And I find this in teachings of Lao-Tze (proto-anarchist no doubt).

          If you see a society like a sum of individuals then maybe you see no need for absolute values.
          But society is not just a sum of individuals, it is more.

          Lets see what we have now for values on our side: non-violence, do no harm…
          First, definitions with negation don’t work well in our brain.
          What about Goodness, something that is “right below tao”?


          • Great points Mik!

            Do unto others as you would have them do unto you – is a foundation law of creation and the foundation of true civilization.

            There is something else in the bible were it talks of – we come into to this world with nothing and we are sure to leave with nothing – Truth again – so what are people really doing with their lives?

            Bob Marley said in the song Misty Mourning – There is one mystery I just can’t express, how can you ever give your more to receive your less.


            The question is what kind of wake do you leave behind after one passes on… from how you lived your life?

            In alot of contexts boundries can be a good thing

            Ch. 38 of the Tao De Ching is good stuff there:

            When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
            When goodness is lost, there is morality.
            When morality is lost, there is ritual.
            Ritual is the husk of true faith,
            the beginning of chaos.

            (He is charting the fall into dualistic illusion,
            goodness gives rise to its opposite evil,
            both exist in illusion because it is false
            goodness – TRUE GOODNESS is the TAO and has no opposite)

            Therefore the Master concerns himself
            with the depths and not the surface,
            with the fruit and not the flower.
            He has no will of his own.
            He dwells in reality,
            and lets all illusions go.

            • “……TRUE GOODNESS is the TAO and has no opposite”

              don’t know….
              I would say Chaos is the opposite of Tao. But yes, just kind of opposite.

              “so what are people really doing with their lives?”

              Anything and everything just to push away a thought they will be dead one day.

  4. “I’ll take Voluntaryism GOING VIRAL any day over it going embryonic.
    Sorry for that but just considering the situation at hand.”

    Yes Wylie1 we’re of like minds on this one.

    For whatever reason, James chose to take the phrase “Go Viral” too literally.

    Like you Wylie1 and probably the vast majority of folks out there, by default I think of going viral, figuratively, as in ‘spread like crazy’, ‘quickly’. That’s all. I don’t think of any negative contexts.

    When the MSM talks about this or that video or idea ‘going viral’ over the internet, how many times or what percentage of these ‘viruses’ are viewed in a negative light? Very very seldom indeed.

    I agree that Mr. Corbett shouldn’t aim to create/release information/videos with ‘going viral’ as his prime goal, however I think he should always be thinking about finding ways to reach the BROADEST POSSIBLE number of people.

    If he prefers to think of this as ‘going embryonic’ rather than ‘going viral’, that’s fine. They’re just labels.
    The people that are influenced in the end is what really matters.
    And as far as I’m concerned, the more the merrier.

  5. Point taken… the embryo is a more apt image than the pesky virus meme.
    So why didn’t you leave us today, with the most iconic embryo image
    of the 20th Century ? – Kubrick’s star-child, the embryonic figure
    juxtaposed with the earth itself, promising rebirth and an alternative future.

  6. in his book, Public Opinion (written almost one hundred years ago), reporter and commentator, Walter Lippmann emphasized that the public: “… conceives of democratic communication primarily through the medium of vision. A democratic order is possible in so far as the masses are able to construct visual representations that approximate the truth”.


    This is important, for by underscoring and highlighting Lippmann’s notion of ‘vision’ and its ‘medium’ we can gain an insight into his powerful understanding of the role of ‘corporate image making’ (or meme making) or ‘corporate visual media manipulation’. Even though only the medium of moving pictures and not television had been invented at the time he wrote Public Opinion, much later Marshal McLuhan and Vance Packard would take these insights to a much deeper level. Edward Bernay’s book, Propaganda, had come out earlier in 1922 and Crystallizing Public Opinion in 1923 and the effects of the Creel Report and the anti-German propaganda unleashed in America no doubt had an effect on Lippmann’s thinking. It certainly did on the thinking of the masses lending credence to Lippmann’s theory.

    Marketing, propaganda and the management of citizen perceptions is far greater now than at any time in history; it’s become a multi-billion dollar industry.

    Lippmann, if alive today, would only nod his head in vindication of his major assumptions. Even poet, Allan Ginsburg, was quick to remark shortly before his death: “We are in science fiction now. Whoever controls the media-the image-controls the culture”.

    This can serve to remind us of Orwell’s admonishment in 1984,

    “He who controls the present controls the past” (Orwell, G. 1984, Harcourt Brace, Plume Publishing. NY: New York, 2003 reprint, first edition).

    The media is of course corporate controlled so the visualizations are corporate manufactured and history a corporate construction. Television, radio and the internet are now the largest school districts in the world of commercialized culture and they are controlled, in general, by five or six giant media empires

    • Weilunion, here is an early version of of public vision by the chief of propaganda for Napoleon, David. 1793 Death of Marat.
      The historical significance of this was not lost on future propagandists.


      • Alex and MBP : where to begin with the pulsed resonance you two have turned loose.You two are messing with zero point energy in a way. And in Z-Man fashion I will attempt to ‘splain. You caused my head to explode with that line a thought. I hope I can find all the pieces and put them back together again.
        1. Corbetteers vs Corbett Reporteers. From the brilliantly worded Subscriber news letter a few days ago from the Editor-in-Chief.
        2.You made me think of the suns energy being locked up in the forest of humanity. Like that of the forest fuel that is not being burned periodically in natural cycles of a healthy forest. Could be the TPTSB do burn in a controlled fashion or we, humanity, reach a point that the lies and methods of control never let the fuel build up to escape from the suppression.
        3. Going viral could be those controlled burns. Controlling the resonances that build are very similar to a directed energy weapon. When the release of the frequency occur TPTSB control that release being sure not to cross over into zero point energy. When The multi directional release occurs the Law of Energy Conservation is breached and control is lost. Where in our past has the breach occurred for TPTSB? We can easily spot the controlled burns that cooked humanities ass.
        4. You all crossed the threshold of truth and have entered the tower of Babel wherein all truth resides. IF you can get out of the building with those truths how would you share it with the lower masses. Resonating with the mob will put the conundrum of TPTSB in your court. How ? The when is now.
        5. So lets get moving into action. The truth is in the discotheque and Albert Hall. The trick will be to control the burn , an ember,an embreyo. To start a fire that doesn’t created a conflagration but clears the tares and the tarerists from the forest.
        6. Into action: https://youtu.be/0zmIR1aAGYE

        • PS; in other words you really rang my bell with that lateral thinking. The bee thing was remarkable. Regards to New York regards to London. Regards to Nippon regards to San Paulo.

          • Well this what I feel like but don’t look or sound this good. Ahhh… Music. Wishing it was Saturday night.


            We will give it a rest. I feel Shiva is playing with fire. For Americans its refreshing. Embryonic or viral its gaining steam.

        • Alex, in the doing we create. In the mind we procrastinate. I have to think of the nursery rhythms origin, how did it come about? What was trying to be communicated here.
          Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
          Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
          All the Kings horses
          All the Kings men
          Couldn’t put Humpty back together again.


          Optimism says that can be taught , and as Lewis Carroll says you just have to enter by a door that isn’t an exit but an entrance…
          Sperm and an ova, relationship. To make pregnant and to arrive at
          embryo you got to enter at the right door. All others are stuck in a feed back loop and going nowhere.
          Look how I got 10trillion new brain cells.
          1. What’s in a logo
          2.episode 370-2020 interview.
          3.episode 371 – going viral
          4 subscriber news letter- when is a camera not a camera

          This was quite the rabbit hole door.

          • Well , the swelling has gone down but I can still feel the stings of a thousand bees, wasps . there is a German expression for the dual existence that quantum physics presents, however I have been unable to locate the proper spelling. Zeggerbewiggen? Any Deutsche speakers in the crowd. The jumping back and forth of the bee the wasp the cat is dead one minute and the cat is alive the next thing. Its maddening to be stung a thousand times, and be shown an entrance and encourage you to pass through only to become aware that you are in the alley and the door closes and the sign says exit no entry, go around to the entrance and pay again.

          • Well Alex we are not dead yet. You are no Tapir, you are a giant armadillo and you know more than you let on.
            That encouragement to do nothing is what the play here is. That you are finished so give up go buy some dope and we will instruct you where to go and what to do.( that’s the U.S. now) .
            In the existing matrix, this is someone real as real as you can be without a deathwish. He calls Del Bigtree out, along with Robert Kennedy Jr. Same ‘ol go through this door here routine.
            Its an hour long , its all good stuff but fitting it in the new paradigm will take all the brains this guy has. I think he can do some good.( ie.damage) He explains controlled opposition and the Not So Obvious Establishment. One more metaphor, name the evil and its like sunlight to a vampire, squirm and burn in the light.


      • Hello alexandre,

        I copy here your sentence from your above post, because it expresses some very good points:

        “I don’t know, I’m just trying to look behind James’ words, because he’s not an idiot, apparently, and we have to remember what he said about metaphors and think in those terms.”

        As James is the antithesis of an idiot – and, of course, quite the contrary, he’s a brilliant individual, I very much agree that it is important that we do attempt to follow what he’s saying, or as you put it, to “remember” what he said. Near the end of his podcast, he specifically made the point to remind his audience that he had been, indeed, speaking highly metaphorically. As he said – “Now this is very metaphorical, I understand…”

        The beauty of this podcast, though, is the ironic contradiction in his using the power of the metaphor to pointedly and selectively deconstruct and discredit two rather popular ones, while at the same time creating a new one. Clever!

        One of the main purposes of this entire podcast was to argue for the de-legitimization and detachment from, the “Body Politic” meme, which is essentially the popular metaphor for Statehood these days, the idea being that to free oneself from it, is to quit feeding into it by all means. James also discussed the relatively recent standardization of the use of the term “meme”, itself. And, strangely enough, it would seem that even the ubiquitous reference to the word “meme” has had the unique ability to solidify, and for that matter, legitimize, in the public’s consciousness, whatever conceptualizations and/or metaphors that have been, well, “meme-ified”.

        The whole idea is to wake up and smell the coffee, realize the subconscious, embedded nature of this metaphoric beast, “Body Politic” which has been created by way of the universal “meme-ification” of things, and walk away from it, even if it means walking away from its metaphoric nemesis, and arch meme, “Viral”.

        Maybe it’s hard to see, but meme metaphor “Viral” feeds off of meme metaphor “Body Politic”, essentially legitimizing “Body Politic” – Statehood – in a symbiotic way.

        “Embryonic” is metaphor for “new”. New approach, a new way. A new day. And hey, maybe “Embryonic” may become a ubiquitous meme,too, a ubiquitous idea without the need to go “Viral”.

        Maybe, it’ll just need to be “Born”. 🙂

        Meat and potatoes?

        Perhaps a little cereal just for now.

        Anyway, I thought this podcast was really refreshing, insightful, and uplifting.

        • Hey, no problem with the delay, however, I’m at pains to admit, it feeds into my lack of self-worth. Lol

          No, but seriously, though, no sooner had I finished my above post, that I read mbp’s two posts below mine that was ten magnitudes better communicated, and like-wise greatly more sophisticated! Even reading your posts, lately, yours and mbp’s – your exchanges are erstwhile pretty intricate, nuanced and intelligent even as the two of you mess and joke around….

          Corbett’s right! – best damn comment section on the Internet! Well, he didn’t use the word “damn”, and he did qualify his statement – “for what it’s worth”. But, as we know, he happens to be a modest dude, and that’s why we like him 🙂

          Anyway, quoting a piece of the quote in mbp’s post below – “memes, the cultural replicators as an alternative to DNA…” from Richard Dawkins, is interesting, funny, and possibly an example of sorts of GBW’s de Bono lateral thinking, thingy. The tying together of meme as cultural replicator (which, in essence, is its definition, as meme is defined as being the result of cultural replication, it also becomes obvious that the Internet, being an arena of instantaneous communication, acts as a very and most proficient meme incubator, and hence the reason why “meme” is not only no longer obscure, it’s now literally unavoidable within the social lexicon!)together with the idea of meme having become the digital age’s representation of biological DNA, is astute of Dawkins, and equally astute of mbp to enter this idea into the conversation, for such a designation fits perfectly, like a glove, into the body-politic metaphor, in effect, breathing digital life into this manufactured creature, the very same beast from which Corbett would like to disengage.

          As far as the “viral” meme/metaphor angle, it was interesting to check out your Prof Peter Duesberg link, where in one subsequent link he points out that ” Just like humans, viruses are here to continue their species, and they succeed best if they do this without harming their host, certainly without causing a fatal disease.” The professor’s statement bears out a symbiotic relationship, and adds to the credence that the “viral” and “body-politic” confluence is a self-sustaining, mutually reinforcing paradigm. And, yes, the contention these illusory, metaphoric memes are but a digitized contagion of dubious purpose, is well taken.

          But, like you ask, what of “embryonic”, is this not part and parcel of the same metaphorical cloth? And, perhaps, a disagreeable allusion, reminding you of “Alien”, which makes me smile…. Anecdotally, my daughter was wondering about the guitar music I had been listening to the other night, because she thought it was nice. I figured she must have heard me playing Jefferson Airplane’s “Embryonic Journey”. I was correct, so I played it for her, but when I mentioned the song’s name, it created an immediate visceral response of mild disgust, which made me think, smirkingly, of your comment.

          Anyway, not sure, but it feels like the 500 limit may be approaching and am too lazy to count.

          Cheers, man.

          • Well, I guess you’re a humble dude, too.

            Hmm, interesting perspective regarding the “yuk” factor of Embryonic. Indeed, that expression encapsulates my daughter’s reaction in a nut shell, so, good point. The “Embryonic” movement will not be exploited nor commercialized any time soon! You had mentioned in an earlier post, that there’s greater value in a slower, more organic approach, and I believe you were equating it with having greater authenticity, as opposed to the viral bs.

            By the way, I don’t know how long you’ve been posting on this comment board, but, um, mbp, as far as I know, is a lady, lives in France, teaches, and has a son.

            But, listen, that’s okay. My first impression of HomeRemedySupply, believe it or not, was that he was a woman, and that was based solely upon how I stereotyped HRS’s style of writing – structured, organized, thoughtful, etc.

            Perhaps you were thinking of mbp as a man due to mbp’s obvious high level of intelligence, ha ha! …. oops! Holy machismo! I didn’t just play my chauvinist card, did I?? Sorry, guys.

            And, sorry, HRS, if you’re reading this, I don’t think I ever mentioned the above, before. Nor, did I ever mention that I was actually being my flirtatious self with you, at the exact moment mkey told me to watch it, and jumped all over me! I think you likened it to a bar room fight. And here I am thinking this crazy Corbett subscriber got all bent out of shape being all jealous and protective over you! 🙂

            Go figure, right?

            Yup, alexandre, you definitely can learn a whole lotta stuff here on the Corbett board! LOL

            Be good!

          • alexandre,

            mbp may very well be a bearded poet. Who knows? She has mentioned in a post, once or twice(jokingly?), something about shaving her beard…. So, at the very least, mbp remains an enigma. However, if I don’t get off this subject, like right now, these here eggshells I’m treading may turn into spikes. Ouch.


            PS: I was only joking about playing my chauvinist thing. I’m not on that level, nor do I think I have one(a chauvinist card)…at least I would hope not…. “Yeah, man, I’m a card carrying chauvinist and damn proud of it!” Not.

            Though, you know, what may exist in ones shadow* is never easily discernible, and attempts at self discovering aspects of ones hidden persona are difficult, if not painful, Besides, are they not subject to misinterpretation when self-observed? Perception is poor when it comes to things you can’t hardly see…like a shadow.
            *I liked your Jungian reference to animus. Simple and concise at the same time.

            Anyway, given the fact that none of us really know who we fully are, I think that’s why it’s probably preferable, generally, to first ask oneself what I believe to be the better question: Who am I, more so than, who are you. Before knowing the full answer to the first question, the second question is of little import.


            Have no fear of being BANNED! for expressing philosophical ideas on this comment board! Ever!

            To whit:

            In this podcast, “Going Viral”, James asks our forgiveness for his waxing philosophical. So, therefore, conversely, any amount of philosophical discussion on the part of his subscribers should by rights, be absolutely acceptable with him…if kept, that is, ha ha, under 500 words per discourse!

            cheers, once again

          • Ha ha, three-headed aliens with wigs! A Corbettian Nightmare!

            Years ago in my early twenties, driving with my girlfriend, now wife, there was this asshole in a real fancy sporty car, weaving in an out of lanes on a two lane road like he was in a real rush, so I thought, fuck this guy. So, getting ahead of him, I decided to purposely slow him down by driving alongside a slow driver in the right lane. After awhile, though, I could tell he was getting super frustrated, so, I thought, okay, maybe it’s time to stop the game. So, when pulling up at the next light intersection, I moved into the right lane so he can pass me on the left. When he pulled up and stopped alongside me at the red light, the guy was totally incensed and probably even angrier than one of those pissed off hornets you just got rid of at your house. He proceeds to pull out of his glove compartment a shiny silver pistol – I’ll never forget – and waves it at me, and says, you see this? I can blow your fucking head off! And when the light changed, he sped off….

            That was my “Duel” of the road. Needless to say, that was the last, I didn’t play any road games after that.

            There was another, earlier road game, where again, the other driver waved a pistol at me telling me he was an off duty cop, which I didn’t believe. Except, he must have had a radio in his car, and telling the truth, because when his uniformed friends showed up, the outcome was a night in jail….

            Sometimes the truth hurts. 🙂

  7. James, I think the words we’re looking for here is INCEPTION. Must see movie!

  8. Monday, January 20th, 2020 is Martin Luther King, Jr. Day in the United States.
    Many schools and institutions are closed.

    This is free to give out.
    Here is a nutritional supplement which might help with the public’s fertility…

    “Truth At Last: The Assassination of Martin Luther King”
    (51 minutes)

  9. Very good and succinct summary of this channel and its purpose James!

    Indeed, the idea is to create a new model or a new embryonic idea that will then be transmitted and grow into a new philosophy and possibly a new model for a society.

    I often ponder about how in one year – 1776 – various ideas were promulgated that had vastly different destinies:

    1. Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations was published.
    2. The Declaration of Independence
    3. Adam Weishaupt founding of the Order of the Illuminati.
    4. The beginning stirrings of the French Revolution.

    The world we have today was the outcropping of the above ideas with various permutations having been tried and refined throughout the countries of the world.

    Yet, it is time to build a new model…as R. Buckminster Fuller put it in the following quote:

    “You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
    To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

    Yes, let’s “build a new model” that makes the existing societal model obsolete!

    • “Very good and succinct summary of this channel and its purpose James!

      Indeed, the idea is to create a new model or a new embryonic idea that will then be transmitted and grow into a new philosophy and possibly a new model for a society.”

      OK OK. Let’s create a new embryonic idea and have it go viral!
      ie. Let’s try to get that great embryonic idea out to as many of the masses as is possible in the shortest amount of time, so as to bring about the desired change in our lifetimes.

  10. James is trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater with regards
    to viruses and ‘Going Viral’.

    Yes viruses replicate extremely quickly and some can do harm to humans. But viruses also play a vital role in the ecology of aquatic and land life.

    Viruses are microorganisms which make up more than 90% of the biomass in the sea.
    Viruses are instrumental in killing approximately 20% of this biomass each day.
    They are responsible for the destruction of phyto plankton that include harmful algae blooms.

    In the bigger picture of evolution, viruses are an important means of horizontal gene transfer or transferring genes between different species.
    This transfer increases genetic diversity and drives evolution.

    It is likely that viruses played a major role in early evolution and they still make up one of the largest pools of unexplored genetic diversity on this planet.

    Viruses are important in molecular and cell biology studies.
    They can quite readily be used to manipulate and investigate the functions of cells.

    They have been useful in the study of molecular genetics, including DNA replication, RNA processing, transcription, translation, immunology and protein transport.

    Viruses have also been utilized in viro-therapy which involves the use of genetically modified viruses to treat diseases.

    So while the general public may view viruses as horrible disease transmitters, they play a far more important role in the overall ecology of this planet.
    Or in Rodney Dangerfield speak, “They don’t get no respect!”

    Long story short, there is nothing wrong with ‘Going Viral’.

    • I’ve read a theory that macro-viruses were present in the early Earth. They had the ability to replicate. They used the complex organic material that was deposited in the Late Heavy Bombardment to create cells and DNA. After much time they lost their ability to replicate and relied on the cells to do it.

      found this on a ddg search

      Could Giant Viruses Be the Origin of Life on Earth?

      “But some scientists say the discovery of giant viruses could turn that view of life on its head. They propose that the ancestors of modern viruses, far from being evolutionary laggards, might have provided the raw material for the development of cellular life and helped drive its diversification into the varied organisms that fill every corner of the planet.”

      • cont’

        According to this theory, the ancestor of giant viruses lost its ability to replicate as an independent life-form and was forced to rely on other cells to copy its DNA. Pieces of these ancient cells’ genes survive in modern mimivirus, pandoravirus, and pithovirus, which would explain the unique genes found in this group. “Life didn’t have one single ancestor,” Claverie said. “There were a lot of cell-like organisms that were all competing, and there was one winner, which formed the basis for life as we know it today.”

  11. MBP, so with coffee in the morning you might enjoy some of the things Edward De Bono has to say. The commentator is obnoxious but De Bono is brilliant on memes. Its all in how you think.


    • MBP, thanks for the EPPH. Never had heard of it, but. It was my 1st impression that David has painted himself in the bath tub. Marat looks very much like David’s face.
      Do propagandists today leave a bit of themselves in their work?

  12. The viral analogy was never quite accurate in the first place, true an idea can spread from person to person like a biological virus spreads from host to host, however the biological virus exploits a weakness or flaw in the host that allows it to be transmitted without the host being willful of the action.

    In the case of an Internet Meme, the Meme has to appeal to each and every individual in some way. IE the Meme is funny, novel, contains information that the individual considers important or maybe would raise the status of that person amongst the people they share it with.

    That in itself is the main problem with viral content. It limits the kind of things that can be spread virally. If you are marketing Coke or Pepsi it’s easy enough to make a funny video and embed the brand name in it. If you are trying to spread the truth however – the very information itself can harm the spread of the meme.

    You can see it in the Epstein meme, yeah Epstein Probably didn’t kill himself, but is that really the whole point? Could you add more factual content to that meme without making it sink like a lead balloon?

    • Octium-

      Copy that.

      For something to go viral it has to be short, sweet, and punchy.
      What’s more likely to be spread around, a killer one-liner by Mitch Hedberg or an impassioned, informative rant by George Carlin.

  13. I totally agree about the analogy analogy. Going embrionic is valuable, though like a virus the embryo is parasitic. Perhaps no bad thing in the analogy analogy.

    However what is the nature of the embryo? If it is just the spawn of the system then it creates nothing but a departure from one system to create another with all the nature and nurture influences of the old one. If it it grows to be the rebelious anthithesis of the parent then it is in conflict with the old system. And you were right when you said conflict isn’t the answer.

    In his book “Democracy Defined A Manifesto” Ken D’Oudney talks about what democracy is. How it was redifined (reinstated) by the origianl codified European and English constitution, the Great Charter, Magna Carta.

    It is this. Natural Law is all of the law. Do no harm is the law under which all others are judged and they are judged only through the rule of Natural law by ordinary men and women with the power to “annul” all legislation which they find to be harmful (therefore unlawful.)

    Combined with voluntary exchange, perhaps building upon the prinicples defined by SEK3, a constitutionally lawful agorist society would be possible in my view.

    I do know this is an oxymoron to a an extent. Who enforces the constitution? However, if you understand the Natural Law principles, and the meaning, of Magna Carta the answer is everybody. Because all have individual sovereignty and all live under the do no harm principle of Natural Law.

    So the emryo needs it’s own distinct nature and I believe, though admitedly I haven’t worked out the details, that a natural law agora potentially defines what that nature could be. No need to fight the hydra just live life doing no harm in the agora.

  14. The Corbett Report already went viral and metastasized into it’s embryonic form and like Ian said, it’s a parasitic embryo, sustaining itself off the lifelines off a previous body.

    The Corbett Report is practically a CORPOration. It’s like one of those businesses that is run in the basement of another, using the utilities for free. Now some employees from the host are spending a lot of time in the basement.

    Obviously, the utilities the Corbett Report uses can be removed easily by the host, killing the embryo.

    Since, humans are the source of all these types of ‘bodies’ maybe we should also consider how well our bodies operate outside the host before we expect our creations to grow so independently.

    Can we provide our own nutrition without the host’s help?

    Is the structure of our body safe and free from the influence of the host?

    Can we freely move without influence from the state?

    Can we communicate to large numbers of people and over long distances without the host’s help?

    • Whoops, I accidentally used the word ‘state’ for host…

    • Good one!
      Very witty. 🙂

  15. Thanks for your reference to Lysander Spooner, whom I had not heard of but would now like to read. Does “voluntaryism” really summarize an alternative that reflects ideas common to all or most readers of this site?
    The metaphor of an embryo, which could grow and become conscious, is different from that of a virus, which could maim, such as polio. The embryo metaphor inspires, or could inspire, hope, especially to young people, who are only beginning to become conscious of the world around them, yet are subjected to daily fear porn.
    Specifically, I believe that I have become gradually aware that many, many MSM reports are or may be either incomplete or very biased, such as those about
    – JFK, 9/11, and similarly planned killings and subversions;
    – vaccines, antibiotics, and chemotherapy;
    – fractional reserve lending, fiat currencies, and debt;
    – nutrition, “health”, and obesity; and
    – climate change, proof of anthropogenicity, CO2, pollution, and the science.
    Where you stand depends on where you sit, of course. If you are trying to increase awareness of alternate points of view or possible ways of life, then the metaphor of an embryo speaks to possible healthy growth in healthy young bodies, compared with that of a virus, which could become malignant. Both metaphors make different interpretations and specific details possible, but an embryo has a more healthy connotation and biological reality. We each started life as an embryo, not as a virus.
    For me, an obvious embryo has the ideas of non-violence, peace, and the peace movement; individual health freedom and responsibility; the gold standard; organic, small-scale farming and minerals and vitamins from real food; individual detoxification; and local, small-scale government.
    I’m not naive. This tiny embryo of ideas will probably never grow, but I hope it is never killed. These ideas are not new. They may go back to ancient Sumeria.
    Other people have different points of view, of course. If they start to see these ideas grow and threaten their position, then they might try to abort and then kill the embryo by trying to outlaw and censor these ideas. I hope that this never happens.
    Beyond looking for a meme or a sound bite, I suggest that we focus on continuing to search for and report the truth, at least also recognizing one’s own point of view. The truth does not always conform to the opinions of the majority.
    Of course, this begins with telling oneself the truth first. Nobody has a monopoly on the truth. Sometimes the truth is within.

  16. Alex , where is the music spot around town? Your house i bet on a Saturday night. Here is a blues cover of Prince’s Purple rain. This is a moment , a break from the grinding impregnating of embryonic ideas. Take five and think of laughing in the purple rain.


    Que voy

    • 8am bon jour MBP. The stuff is sent from the ether from google by the hundreds. Much as I like music its gotten out of hand. How do I make it stop. Its burying Tony Heller vids under a mountain of’suggested for you’ goob-tube music vidios. Where did you get stuff like ‘ communities of intention’? Dog gone its snappy.

  17. planting a seed is the metaphor I always liked in that regard
    and in my mind it is like accompanying beautiful flowers sown – sometimes in a poisonous swamp
    I have to say though I do not have a problem with the word viral. For me it is removed from virus and I do not have a visceral reaction to it or associations with virus every time. It also reminds me of some vaguely linked perceptions that guide pc language.

    What maybe deserves to become a fought virus, could be this from 3 days ago:

    The first quote they put out (and they link the report):
    ““Climate change is one of the most significant global
    challenges of our time, and continued greenhouse gas
    emissions pose an existential threat to humanity.”
    Google 2019 Environmental Report”

    “Recommendations for YouTube to Act Immediately

    Detox YouTube’s Algorithm
    Correct the Record”

    avaaz alone is probably already somewhat influential, with google absolutely on board it will make matters terrible.

    So, expect more censorship on that front this year.
    It will be interesting to see how this affects the dinosaur media, especially Fox and Sky and how they act on that.

    • “Ads for some of the world’s most trusted brands were found on climate misinformation videos:……
      One in five ads found were from green or ethical brands including Greenpeace International, WWF and Save the Children.”

      green, ethical…hahaha

      WWF promoting white-wash organization The Roundtable of Sustainable Palm Oil or RSPO


  18. Actually viruses are not necessarily illness causing, and can have positive effects on the host:

    “The human virome is a part of our bodies and will not always cause harm. Many latent and asymptomatic viruses are present in the human body all the time. Viruses infect all life forms; therefore the bacterial, plant, and animal cells and material in our gut also carry viruses. When viruses cause harm by infecting the cells in the body, a symptomatic disease may develop. Contrary to common belief, harmful viruses may be in the minority compared to benign viruses in the human body. It is much harder to identify viruses than it is to identify bacteria, therefore our understanding of benign viruses in the human body is very rudimentary.

    The health effects of viruses on an individual are dependent on the individual’s immune system”


    • But…I absolutely agree with your perspective on creating rather than infecting or fighting..

      Thanks James 🙂

  19. Alex ,did you ever see A Winters Bone? Jennifer Lawrence’s first film. Real art house. All that you said with a Disney ending. If you have not seen it do, it was or what you said contains the elements essential for magic. This was one of the last movies I paid to see.
    2010 was a wakey-wakey ( waking up time, like being born without consent) time and then everything changed. It seems to me it got hard, cold , non- empathetic and morbid fast. All of this just mirrored the horrors of the wars of aggression that were raging everywhere.
    The thing I was thinking when I read your lines were how much money did the picture rake in?. Winters Bone cost $ 2 million to make and brought in $ 16 million. Not a bad ROI for Cinema Art. $16 million. I hope the producers of Bacurau lost their ass. That is pure shradenfraude to say that but bad cinema art deserves all karma can give. Here is a link to check out if you want. I wish all cinema where as representative and pleasant as , the Portuguese word or expression is cona? I may have it wrong. Eu noa sei de nada.

    Winter’s Bone https://g.co/kgs/2Et9uz

  20. Alex , I learned something here thanks for taking the time to explain.

  21. Alex ; it was in a Portuguese English wiki and not so much Brazil. My mistake there. Cona is one of those difficult words that’s not easily put into the English form. It has to do with pleasure and emotional romantic connotations as I was trying to apply to good cinema art. The guttural slang version comes from English’s inability to make the expression non-guttural, which in Portuguese’s case it is not considered guttural but a good expression. Geez it is probably spelled with a k and not a c. Oops . The example they gave was the Hyundai car called the Kona. Really the tutorial said Portuguese is easier to learn than Spanish. Ha! If only i could spell. That probably explains why I got such stares when I was told conyo was a word like well or ahh… A polite pause when speaking Spanish. Boy did they get a laugh on this gringo. My friends mother suggested I should cuss less and then told me how I was framed. Then she kicked her sons ass for playing such a trick.

  22. I just watched the Flashback of the Episode 371 “Going Viral” and I agree that information should be embryonic rather than viral. I am hungry for hard facts that could be accepted as evidence in a court of law, but I am also interested in understanding other peoples’ world views—especially those I disagree with. The Corbett videos and the comments of the Corbett community supply both the facts and the opinions that I seek.

    I would like to share some facts about what is happening in New York City that confirm James’ predictions relative to Medical Martial Law. It is being rolled out in the public schools as I write this.

    According to the website of the United Federation of Teaches, the NYC teachers’ union:

    “All DOE staff, visitors and families seeking to enter a DOE building must complete a health screening before entering. This health screening must be completed on each day of arrival, and results will reset daily at midnight. Upon entering the building, you will be asked to provide the results of your screening either by showing your phone or a printout of the results. If an individual answers one or more of the health screening questions on the app that causes a red icon and text, that person may not enter the building. Instead, they should save the screenshot with their results and go home.”

    What is more, teachers and students will be asked to submit to random testing:

    “As of Dec. 7 all schools have 20% of in-person students and staff tested each week. Under the previous protocol, up to 20% of students and staff were tested monthly.”

    What happens if they refuse? Good question

    The so-called “partners” who are doing the testing and handing out the results are:

    BioReference Laboratories: patientportal@bioreference.com
    SOMOS Community Care: 833-SOMOSNY or somosny.com
    Fulgent Genetics: backtoschool@fulgentgenetics.com

    Bill Gates’ plan for testing and tracking has become reality in the public school system of New York City’s five boroughs (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, Staten Island. Fact, not prediction.


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