We all know the ancient Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times!
Oh, OK, it’s not ancient and it’s not Chinese, but it’s a good curse, nonetheless. And it’s hard to think of a more apt description of 2025 than “interesting.”
It seems like every day this year there’s been a new, blockbuster story to displace yesterday’s blockbuster story from the 24/7 doomscroll feed.
Israel is preparing a “Hell Plan” for Gaza.
The EU is creating its own army and setting up its own nuclear deterrence.
A 108-year-old Japanese woman has just been recognized as the world’s oldest female barber.
Truly, we are living in world-historical times.
Given all of these amazing events, it would be easy to overlook the decidedly less-sexy story about tariffs and trade disputes. But if we do ignore the global trade war that is currently brewing, we run the risk of overlooking one of the most important stories of all.
As we shall see, the trade war isn’t just a spat over the flow of fentanyl or the price of aluminum. It’s about the future of the global economy, and, ultimately, the next Great Powers war. In other words, the future of you, your family and civilization itself is on the line here.
Today, let’s explore what’s happening, why it’s happening and what you can do about it.
“The Fundamental Fact of Your Existence as a modern man or woman is that the bankers of New York and London want to reduce you to Debt Slavery…That is their plan for you. What is your plan for them?”
The Video Rebel
Not sure about you but there are far too many initials and roll one’s eyes vocabulary these days out in public. The real nature of life, in my humble opinion, is NOT about what is going on now. This nonsense is the agenda of the controllers. As I said in a recent song: “Everyone’s an Einstein till they’re not.”
Far too much is being turned into cliche’ behavior. The 1000 “Elephants” in the room just don’t get addressed with any level of honesty or authenticity.
DO YOU THINK WE’RE GONNA LAST (song)
https://old.bitchute.com/video/Kykg3jVHnrU4/
My point I guess is life has become a Kubuki Theater of madness through the control of influencing what should be significant in the public’s mind set. When people complain about which “party” is good or bad they don’t even consider to think about just WHY we have these “parties” in the first place.
The lies and manipulation of reality over the decades has instilled a process of “Egregore” an occult concept representing a “thought form” or “collective group mind.” It creates Confirmation Bias behavior, people display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information. Hence combined with the controller’s propaganda machine of the media, the “entertainment” biz, etc. the either/or, us/them dialog appears as something real and the “tin foil hat” sort of disrespect of others gets people killed.
James’ creation of a truly “safe space” in which to share ideas, knowledge, and information of a true “alternative” nature is very rare in today’s constant “politically correct” world.
Just ran across this making my point…
“If you read George Orwell’s fictional novel “1984” when you were young, now is an opportune time for a second look. It’s the language of “1984” that’s of particular use. The book is perhaps most applicable for its exploration of the relationship between nuanced language and thought, and the way dishonest, inaccurate language leads to a breakdown of identity and capacity for independent reasoning.”
Russ Winter – The Prescience of George Orwell
https://www.winterwatch.net/2025/03/the-prescience-of-george-orwell-1984-is-here/
Buy local. That’s my take.
I’m really enjoying John Titus’s Bankocracy series. Thanks for highlighting that, James. Also, worthy of a (long) read is Ian Davis’s Dark MAGA-corps technate. Absolutely fascinating. I love the “recommended” section in these newsletters.
Live happens now. There is no other moment than now. I’m enjoying life. Just went skiing today and enjoyed the sun. Yesterday I held two workshops at a womens Bitcoin event. I agree with you, James, that our future is in volunteering and community building.
A few years ago I put this up on my music site:
SOLUTIONS (essay)
https://old.bitchute.com/video/TsqcMC9tPGg2/
It addresses these issues we are talking about working together locally with folks. Each of us has something we do that we can bring to the table…medicine, computer skills, farming/ranching/gardening, etc.
Remember everyone can’t do everything but everyone can do SOMETHING.
Aloe Vera good for those skiing sunburns :-))
Yes! I read Iain’s piece yesterday. Fascinating and bone chilling.
@Torus
Just for the sake of exploring what “Buy local” means to you in this context, lets say you lived on the US/Canada border out in the boonies, and there was a more established community on the Canada side for stores and local regenerative/organic farms. Would “buy local” involve buying from that Canadian town? or would it mean driving further into the US to buy from someone within that nation state (based on how you are using the term) ?
Thanks for the comment (and I hope those apple tree seedlings are coming along nicely 😉 )
Hey G!
The apple seedlings are greening up! I have seven doing happy and well. Thanks again!
Buy local, in this context means supporting those in your physical locality, even if that means crossing an invisible governmental boundary. The closer to your food source the better, in my experience. Quality over nationalism, I’d say.
@Torus
7 is my favorite number! woo hoo! 🙂
Greening up like leafing out already and breaking winter dormancy? Are they still in pots or in the ground?
I just heard back from a guy in Tasmania that I sent some of those apple seeds and he showed me pics of 5 gorgeous little trees. So much variation in branching and leaf color too!
Did you get any leaves expressing anthocyanin in yours?
RE: Buying local
Ok awesome! I like your non-statist definition of the term.
I wonder if any people on the border are actually facing that conundrum right now with all the “boycott the other country” propaganda floating about.
Thanks for the thoughtful response and baby wild apple tree update.
May your 7 trees bear 7 hundred thousand pounds of fruit each in your life time.. may the 7 thousand seeds you germinate and share in the future from your harvests set down root in 7 communities and serve to help feed the 7th generation after us.
Great article with good supplemental reading suggestions. The “Dark MAGA” is an excellent read. I like how this explains how the “dark enlightenment” and “neo-reactionary” discourses tie into technocracy, “something outside the overton window (Dark MAGA article)”
I think that some of the ideology of the “dark enlightenment” or perhaps Yarvin’s writings on the topics are purposely written to obfuscate, either that or Yarvin does not really have a clear picture of what type of improvement “his” system is to the “cathedral”.
All of these “elites” and mouthpieces come from money and connections to power and they want to expand it and/or have some trans-human dream of immortality. I know that they are weirdo’s with questionable ethics.
But the way in which “conservative” ideology and discourse was used to fool people was cleaver and evil. People believe this regime is going to give them something that will in fact be the opposite of what they want and many people will just go along and pretend like they weren’t fooled.
Local economies and local food are a must. Any type of collaboration with real human beings will be critical.
My intuition or maybe it’s just wishful thinking is that the reliance on technology and worshiping it and being ruled by it will become like a bad drug addiction and many people will walk away from it.
“….many people will walk away from it….”
Yes, i think many already are.
It’s going to be an evolutionary bottleneck between those that do and those that don’t IMO
Well hopefully some young “influencers” can demonstrate how to live a normal life without all this toxic crap and maybe it will become a trend.
It’s sort of how alcohol has diminishing returns and really isn’t that great of a pastime. Maybe people can cogitate on how abnormal living a virtual life is. It’s shallow and unfulfilling.
The technocracy is literally a system that wants to govern how people wipe their own ass. It is that intrusive. I mean who in their right mind would want that?
“….who in their right mind would want that…..”
If you consider that they were talking about Technocracy when it was literally an insane idea to even think you could monitor everything in real time that question makes more sense. 🙂 lol
I kinda think there is a mind behind it, but it’s not a human one…. Did you ever watch “Nefarious” ? It’s billed as a “Christian” movie but it’s actually a decent psychological horror on its own merits. On the Christian side it has been described by an exorcist as a good description of demonic psychology
I did watch Nefarious and I really enjoyed it. It was scary. That kind of stuff creeps me out. But the “mind” behind it not being human does make sense. I understand why people believe that because it is truly “demonic”
And these creepy “elites” are into all that weird satanic stuff. I mean maybe there is something there. Why would they be doing all those weird rituals if there wasn’t anything to it?
Now I’ll probably have nightmares, lol.
“Why would they be doing all these weird rituals if there wasn’t anything to it?”
I wondered why the Catholics did that, more than other superstitions did, 72 years ago. My theory: It’s entertaining. And rituals, being mostly social, keep reinforcing the illusion.
When you got ’em on the hook, keep ’em there for fun/profit.
I do think some of them really worship Satan (real or imagined). There are Satanists in the government. Michael Aquino is one of them. Look him up. He was a Satanist and a pedophile. There are a lot of those types in “elite” circles and in the government.
Even if they are just disgustingly evil, they seem to want to embody what Satan represents.
I mean, I really don’t know. But the degree of evil to me seems “beyond” human. Like the most evil psychopathic mind imaginable.
cu.h.j
You’re not the only one having nightmares. I have been trying to track down a Frenchman who outlined this nightmare in early 1820s.
T]he ruling class must be plausibly identified. [. . .] It is [only] necessary to ask [. . .] who do capitalists pay for political favors, how much these favors are potentially worth, and how the authority to grant them is distributed. This requires, with a minimum of moral irritation, that the entire social landscape of political bribery (‘lobbying’) is exactly mapped, and the administrative, legislative, judicial, media, and academic privileges accessed by such bribes are converted into fungible shares.
This quote from Iain Davis’ essay , listed above in the show notes, expresses the Frenchman’s sentiments from early 1800s. HMmm, who was that Frenchman?
How have we hung on for so long.? Well I guess we have had some nightmare- ish events since 1812. All the global horror seems to have started after 1913. Sans the civil war, was that global?
The doge will be a big surprise to many when it’s neo- cathedral leopard spots become visible to the sleeping masses. I’m counting on you to keep California from going crazy. It sure comes at us fast. I have a saying, nothing good ever comes quick. I’m glade you get what was being said in the Dark maga. More people need to be aware of this. If You can take this nightmare others will be strengthen by your resolve. I’m straightened by it.
Yeah, who is that Frenchman? Is he mentioned in the article?
Not in California much anymore, so there’s nothing I can do over there.
Here, people are more or less accepting whatever comes from the Trump regime. I think they haven’t a clue about technocracy though.
Not sure that would go over well in rural places. They will probably start it in the cities.
I think the Trump regime is like Covid was for “the left” people might just accept and defend gross violations of constitutional law because “their guy” is doing it.
Look at how people are trying to justify RFK Jr’s 180 on vaccines.
National politicians are backstabbing frauds who have already traded their soul it seems.
RFK Jr’s betrayal (to his own conscience and his very soul) is disturbing. Trump was always an actor. It’s funny to watch “The apprentice” and be able to see it clearly.
Cu.h.j
Couldn’t reply on other thread so putting this here.
On “what is an American” I think it was Daryl cooper of martyr made podcast who said that the problem with American ethnigenesis is that every time it started happens there was another wave of foreigners showing up.
As an aside A really cool book on the basis of America is “Albion’s seed” , I about how the different flavors of English people (who hated each other) settled the different parts of America. It’s a cool book if you like to hear about funny folk ways and habits
I’ll check out the book “Albion’s Seed.” I know that the early colonists were of British origin that likely affected the culture in early America. This culture was the foundation of America. I know that as people immigrated here, this changed, a process of assimilation occurred mostly among “white” Europeans. I imagine early on people had more of a connection to their “roots” i.e. who their ancestors were and where they came from and their “ways” in their ancestral lands.
I know my grandparents were much more aware of who their ancestors were and their origins. This type of awareness and connection to where people come from is no longer common among “Americans” and has been replaced with a generic and ill defined sense of identity. I think it makes it easier for exploitation by the ruling “elite”
I do think it is probably healthy that people have some knowledge of their ancestors and cultural roots and history. This provides some sort of “anchor” to the past.
I think in some European countries (ancestral lands and colonized lands) there is now a deliberate effort to disrupt the existing culture and replace it.
Maybe James is going to tell us to find a regenerative farm + community. It’s logical. The option is to buy a house + land + food + well + food + PV/battery, off grid, in the country and build a security wall 12′ tall with 3′ of razor wire on top.
RE:
“..As renowned French economist Claude-Frédéric Bastiat famously (didn’t) observe (but should have!): “When goods don’t cross borders, soldiers will.”..”
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Apparently, some people actually have concerns of that nature in the US Gov right now.
Below is a bill that was introduced the other day:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1936/text
“H.R.1936 – To prohibit funds for the Armed Forces to engage in operations to invade or seize territory from Canada, the Republic of Panama, or the self-governing territory of Greenland.
119th Congress (2025-2026)”
Can you imagine, a military occupation of a nation state like Greenland or Canada? What a logistical nightmare it would be with that type and amount of terrain.
That is not even to get into whether or not people would be willing to follow orders to become a sort of imperialistic gestapo Roman type occupying invasion force.
Though, I suppose if Musk and his big tech homies get their way, it would be autonomous war machines so maybe order refusing would not be an issue.
Interesting times indeed!
It’s posturing to pass a spending bill on invading anywhere- firstly the president can send troops anywhere for a set time period (I think 90 days or something like that was passed after Vietnam) secondly the president has plenty of ways to fund an invasion for that period of time by moving money around and thirdly a declaration of war requires congress to pass it so in any hypothetical situation that he declares war on Canada congress gets to decide and votes of or or against and thus nullifies or it negates the earlier bill.
It’s just posturing for political points, and means nothing either way…. I can not actually imagine that Trump is planning to invade Canada at this time.
Neither Mexico or Canada would be hard to conquer, but Mexico would be a PITA to try to govern. Canada would be pretty easy since it already has good infrastructures and a large enough immigrant population that you could uniform up as police.
I would think the only place worth the effort of taking over would be the Panama Canal…. Greenland WAS pretty strategic in the Cold War since the Greenland Iceland gap was where the Air Force was thinking it would need to stop Soviet bombers but I can’t imagine that Russia would field nukes that way anymore.
It’s like when they 😉 spiked Zelenskyys coke before the White House meeting- kayfabe, IMO.
@Duck
Thanks for offering your perspectives on this.
Well, a declaration of war would be nonsensical, as the nation state of Canada has a pitiful collection of killing machines at their disposal (mostly american hand-me-downs).
Declaring “we are gonna take the stuff we want on inside your borders and maim or kill anyone that stands in the way” might be a little bit more of an accurate description of a hypothetical occupation of somewhere like Greenland or Canada.
Ya I think it is posturing too, and I wondered if it was a sort of psyop (introduced by people that like the idea of spreading fear about an unrealistic potential by pushing a bill forward).
When this Canada/US gov drama comes up I hear people bring up how Trump is gonna “stop the drug trade”, which is fascinating to me considering what we know of intelligence operations of the US gov flooding the streets with narcotics themselves ( https://corbettreport.com/the-cia-and-the-drug-trade/ ).
Someone on my substack page said “What may happen is Special Forces could breach the border to disrupt the drug trade” and this made me wonder what drugs they are actually talking about in the context of the northern border, doobies? I would be a lot more worried about that CIA meth, heroin and blow than I would cannabis if it was my community.
RE: “Neither Mexico or Canada would be hard to conquer”, well if you have an armada of reaper drones, long range missiles and various exotic stealth craft and when you say “conquer” you mean blow a bunch of buildings and people up, then I would say that pretty much most countries on Earth except maybe China, Russia and a few others would not be hard.
However, if by “conquer” you mean use a combination of violence, murder and an occupying military presence (and/or gestapo like “police” force) to force a local population into willing compliance with the edicts of an occupying government, I do not think that would be as easy.
It is worth keeping in mind, when a fascistic medical police state attempted to do a compliance test run / Big Pharma eugenics/profiteering op on the whole world with the scamdemic, while there may have been many virtue signalling face diaper wearing pfizer cheerleaders here in Canada, there was also a fierce resistance to tyranny here in a certain percentage of the population.
Though we may have been the minority, those of us that went to and supported the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa (and the blockades on the borders) were fearless, determined, unflinching and started a global movement of other convoys and protests for freedom.
So, while annihilating buildings, the scant military targets that exist here and mass murdering civilians is always easy for an empire with big guns and high tech killing machines, breaking the spirit of and forcing the willing compliance of a population is a different matter all together.
As I understand fentanyl and precursors to it are shipped into Canada and then into the US… maybe they have lighter import restrictions? I don’t know tbh.
With the caveat that I can’t see it happening except in some Crazy circumstances the reason I say Canada would be easy to control after invasion is that most of the people are in cities (I got a 16% rural wiyh a quick search but the numbers can’t be far off that)
It’s pretty easy to control people in cities, esp if you have an immigrant population you can put in uniform to do the actual dirty work on the streets. It’s not like someone who landed a year ago is going to have as many issues beating or killing the white canadians.
Dense populations can have their food, electricity and water cut off, or heat in winter, and dispite war movie propaganda the vast majority of people will go along with what the guy issuing ration cards says…. The vast majority of French people did zero resistance under the nazis. And white westerners are nothing like as tough or tribal as Iraqis or afghanis.
And without outside supplies the French resistance would have been short lived….landing supplies in Canada (from china??) would be hard with how big the place is…war plan Red in the interwar years envisioned taking Canada in a US vs UK war.
All this is also assuming it’s a full on subjugation, but the issue is Will to do it, not ability. I can’t imagine that it would ever be worth the US’s while to use force.
Now rural populations could be a LOT harder to control, but if you wanted to go full on it would be easy to ship most of them into cities and replace them with people from elsewhere to do ag work or mining or whatever. Again, that would require full Stalin mode, but it’s quite doable. A few “bandits” in the boonies would run around for decades, but unless they were damaging resource extraction they could slowly be allowed to die off from lack of supplies.
Now I can’t imagine the US population being ok with that kind of (open) brutality to people that look like them but I can tell you a Lot of the British public were quite happy to see the IRA get it hard after they let bombs off on the mainland so under the right alt timeline circumstances I could imagine it.
https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-faq/how-many-people-live-in-city-vs-rural-in-canada/
@Duck
Thanks for elaborating on your views of the potential and feasibility of the United States military either going ‘half Stalin mode’ or “full Stalin mode” on the nation state and inhabitants of Canada.
There are some interesting threads in your comment that highlight perspectives on “Foreigners” that seem to be built upon a sort of Doctrine Of Discovery-esk view of the concept of “whiteness”.
You talked about how “immigrant population” could be used in Canada to do gestapo oppression and for “beating or killing the ‘white’ canadians.”.
This is fascinating to me, considering I never brought up anything to do with race in my comments above, yet it is something you hone in on right away.
Much of the “immigrant population” that comes to Canada to live (whether “legally” or in a capacity not approved by the organized criminals in government) would be perceived by you as “white”. They may not speak English, nor French, but they have pale skin. Yet, in your genocidal “full stalin mode” hypothetical, you go right to assuming that this weaponized (apparently apathetic , willing to commit atrocities and lacking a moral compass) “immigrant population” would have a higher melanin content in their skin. Very interesting indeed, this highlights some of the inner workings of the mind of Duck.
You also make interesting assumptions about people requiring “supplies” from external sources in order to survive. While the infantilized modern industrial civilization coveting (smart city cheerleading) subset of the population here is certainly dependant on centralized industrial infrastructure, there is also a portion of the population that is capable of recognizing the abundant gifts of nature that are all around us here. Those people are fully capable of thriving with a grid, or no grid, and with a supply line or no supply line. They are not a majority, but I know quite a few of them. They are not interested in banditry, and they would do just fine (hypothetical psychotic army of “immigrant” brown people roaming around in cities tryna beat and kill people or not).
Thanks again for this anthropologically educational cross section of southern Turtle Island inhabitant modern imperialist thinking.
On the whiteness, as EM Jones argues “whiteness” is an American shorthand of blended European peoples….we only got to be “white” in contact with non whites in our home counties. The British had no issue doing horrific things to “white” Scot’s or “white” Germans. Just as the American Indians and Celtic tribes had no issue doing horrific things to other people that looked like them.
The actual color does not matter as much as the tribal affiliation. I saw a clip during the truckers protest where there was a policeman who was black and spoke with a noticeable accent that I took to Nigerian. I am sure that given many generations his kids would become “Canadian” and care about “his” people, even if he likes other “Nigerian Canadians” better …but he and probably his kids if they live in an ethnic enclave won’t. What even IS a “Canadian” or TBH an “American” that people would fight for?
…..You also make interesting assumptions about people requiring “supplies” from external sources in order to survi…..”
Yes, but they would basically be in the same, or a worse , position to the American Indians vs modern industrial society.
Yheir ability to “resist “ would be depend on hiding and not being an annoyance to the occupier. They would quickly loose access to complex technology that wins conflict.
Interesting exchange here.
I hope my comment isn’t rude to interrupt, but you asked something interesting here:
“”What even IS a “Canadian” or TBH an “American”…”
What do these labels even mean now. If I move to Ireland or Mexico or Vietnam or whatever, would I then be Irish or Mexican, etc.
Could I be Japanese if I moved to Japan? Nope.
So what is a Canadian or an American?
@Duck
Nigerian Canadians! ohh noo!
I bet they do human sacrifices and voodoo rituals and everything! 🙂
In all seriousness though, I think this thought experiment thread has outlived its constructive and productive lifespan.
I am less interested in playing out worst case scenarios in an array of horrifying and depressing (highly unlikely) potentials and more interested in actually using my two hands to plant the seeds for best case scenarios to set down roots and become manifest locally.
Not really interested in diving into the whiteness thing right now either.
I`ll just say that I personally do not identify myself by such labels. My skin may be lighter colored than some of my fellow humans, but it is really a trivial distinguishing feature in my list traits worthy of highlighting, re-enforcing and holding up proudly. I also do not internalize non-sense woke propaganda that tries to get people with light colored skin to define themselves as “colonizers” or “privileged” or “white settlers” and feeling guilt or whatever based on the actions of some people that happened to have pale skin in the distant past.
I define who and what I am through my relationship with the land where I live, the people and non-human beings I share it with, how my actions ether nurture and uplift my local community or not and through the essence of my eternal spirit made manifest through my creative works (and not by melanin content of skin).
It is funny you tried to depict me as seeing the Celtic tribes as “Chosen People”, the wording actually reminds me a lot of what this bible thumper guy was saying on my Substack post (as he threw stones from the shadows and then ran away and blocked me).
This resulted in me bestowing him with the new and well deserved title of “The Hernán Cortés of Herbalism” 🙂
For more details: https://substack.com/@gavinmounsey/note/c-99712877
So ya man, if you wanna talk how we can form symbiotic connections between communities, individuals and take steps to boycott statist regimes as a decentralized movement of sovereign human beings and communities, I am down for that.
If you wanna go on about how some vicious crazies from what ever “side” of a conflict could go about committing atrocities etc, I am gonna go ahead and “eye bounce” that and keep on planting seeds.
Wishing you all the best in the coming “interesting times” ahead.
@cu.h.j
Not intruding at all, I value your input.
RE: “What do these labels even mean now..
Could I be Japanese if I moved to Japan? Nope.
So what is a Canadian or an American?”
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The simple answer is, they mean very little and only as much as parents and the current statist regime inculcate people to feel the terms believe.
Those terms “Canadian” and “American” would have meant very different things to the average person 100 years ago.
Today, it depends who you ask.
There are woke definitions, anti-woke definitions, quasi-woke AI chatbot programmed definitions, racist white supremist definitions and a whole slew of variations in between.
For me, I see the terms as nothing more than vehicles for brainwashing, tools for behavior modification and weapons to inflict wounds on the minds of young ones, warping their sense of self to be linked in a sort of sick Stockholm Syndrome, co-dependency and savior seeking complex relationship that makes them into obedient tax chattel.
We are human beings, each with a unique spirit given to us by God, the physical trappings of the body are insignificant compared to the source of Being. All the nonsense we learn along the way after we arrived here on Earth about how we are supposed to call ourselves “Canadian” or “American” because we were born in some place that some people that are now long dead declared is part of some territory is a waste of time. It is trivial propaganda used to bend people’s minds to the will of oligarchs that pull politicians strings.
People here get very upset with me when I refuse to wave flags with them on Canada day and tell them I think statism is a scam, but that is to be expected, they are after all, to use JC’s words “eating their matrix steak” and loving every bite, why would they want to snap out of the comforting delusion and have to take a long hard honest look at the ugliness of the multi-generational crime syndicates that rule over us and tell us they love us.
“Canada” and “America” are fictional imposed ideas, labels that only mean as much as we allow ourselves to be trained that they mean.
Before these arbitrary imperialist titles were imposed on the land there were many cultures here, and those people stewarded a particular region and often described themselves based on that relationship.
You mentioned Japanese as a term that indicates outward appearance (in how you are using it) but what about the people that lived on those Islands now called “Japan” before the ancestors of contemporary Japanese people arrived there?
They look a little different ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Face_detail,_%22Ainu_leader.%22_Department_of_Anthropology,_Japanese_exhibit,_1904_World%27s_Fair_(cropped).jpg ) but they live in the place called “Japan” by statists.. are they also “Japanese” according to how you are using the term?
Are the Wendat people from my neck of the woods “Canadian” ? Or just Wendat living in Canadian Regime territory?
Now I think about i “resistence” by small isolated groups in the long term, consider your own chosen people- the Celt’s.
In Gaul they pretty much ceased to exist as a people – Bretons and such anomalies aside – because the occupiers had two big advantages over them.
1) mass production and the ability to field a professional armed force
And
2) their material culture was attractive and all the “cool kids” started to ape their masters as has always been the case.
French is a Romance, not a Gaelic language and aside from what the unibomber would have called important details (like a devotion to Asterix) their culture has a Roman base.
The same is true of Ireland (I looked at your price on it) which however you look at it is a Catholic Christian one (the Protestants being imports IIRC) because a thousand years has made it so.
It makes me think of “African” Americans who think they can go back to an African that they may or may not have a DNA link with and if which little remains even in Africa.
So while I agree that you could have people running around the Canadian (or American) bush for decades their fate would ultimately look to be on the bleak side.
Luckily I don’t think either scenario is very likely to happen. But a good book on what the world is like when you cut away to stark materialism is the “Draka” series but Canadian (iirc) SM Stirling.
If you want a real clear look at imperialist thinking that’s your book series.but it’s dark as Fk
Correction “unimportant “ details, not important ones
Here is Feral Historian doing a talk … about three and a half min in he talks about the books conquest of India which explains what I said much better
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JmHNurNDZWI
“….bet they do human sacrifices and voodoo rituals and everythin….”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_(murder_victim)
Quite possibly.
African magical practices do involve such things… there have been a few cases where such things are thought to have taken place…. I mean, the rape gangs in England pretty much had an ethnic animus at their heart and practice against non Muslims.
YOU may label yourself as being beyond such things as ethnic identity but it is one of white peoples most annoying traits to imagine that everyone else is as “enlightened” as them or even wants to be.
It’s the old joke about Rumsfeld saying there is an American trying to get out of every third worlder and me asking how they fit the fat guy inside him… lol.
But more seriously the people who think as I describe are the ones who will stick Together and DO stuff- often bad stuff- and win
@Duck
You already know that I have no interest in what other people think about ethnic labels and that I am, in fact, severing my ties to the dominant culture and decisively engaging in Ethnogenesis with a number of other people from all over the world (aka the co-creation of a parallel society through working along side other people of all genetic lineages that share my ethical values).
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Ethnic identity meaning:
” ..is a person’s sense of belonging to an ethnic group, and the characteristics that make up that sense of belonging. It can include a person’s cultural beliefs, values, and origins..
..An ethnic group is often a distinct category of the population in a larger society with a (generally) different culture..
Ethnic identification describes the relationship that exists between an individual and a group with whom the individual believes he or she has common ancestry based on shared individual characteristics, shared sociocultural experiences, or both.. ..An ethnic group is often a distinct category of the population in a larger society with a (generally) different culture.”
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/ethnic-identity#:~:text=Ethnic%20identification%20describes%20the%20relationship,individual%2C%20family%20or%20group%20level.
@Duck
to jog your memory incase you forgot:
Cultural Origins as Patterns Of Systematic Refusal aka Active Ethnogenesis:
https://youtu.be/OoJN-wUR6vU?si=oCV3JferlfkRu0ZI
I know and said YOU were not interested in other peoples ethnic feelings- I was pointing out that many of THEM are.
Your right that culture can cross genetic lines- but not always in a good way since those rape gangs in the UK were not from a single country but Did share a common religion that shaped their attitudes to women outside their perceived group.
Like the case I linked where a kid was murdered in London people don’t just magically change when they change states or even nations…. If I went to Japan or France would I suddenly change my entire way of thinking to match the people there? Not likely and certainly not if I.lived in an enclave that maintains my separate identity…. It is IMO a bad take to dismiss such things because one does not share in these attitudes
@Duck
One of the most important things that people have done in the past in becoming effective agents of lasting change, is to completely ignore all the people telling them “but you have to choose sides! Look there are bad guys over there and we are the good guys!” to forge their own way and trail blaze a path that ignores both artificially constructed “us” vs “them” dynamics present in their culture at the time.
I shall do that now.
Thanks for the fun horror stories, you can count me eye bounced out of this thread now.
Take care man.
G,
I think that there are cultural underpinnings to geographic regions. Perhaps even racial/ethnic that intertwines with it, but mostly cultural.
It’s true that “state” ideology is part of it, even in Japan. It seems like a “carry over” for systems of “rule”
So you’ve got that destructive aspect to “National” identity, but there is also something else there that is more natural. Cultural “ways” or some kind of glue there that allows for some sort of continuity. Those things are part of identity too.
I watched this series recently “Shogun” that was a historical piece about Japan. It’s very mainstream but I thought it was fascinating and there were Japanese people who remarked that it was relatively accurate in portraying Japanese culture of that time period.
That got me thinking how there is perhaps a separate element that binds people together, even just customs. Like a handshake or a bow or something else like that. Food, Fairy tales, old legends and myths. That kind of thing.
Does that exist for an “American” or a “Canadian”? I suspect that that other thing is what people subconsciously cling to because that other stuff, the glue, ties people to some sense of history, the history of “their people”
For whatever reason (likely survival strategy) people tend to be social and to some extent tribal. I used to reject this as error outright because it can indeed be the root of dehumanization. However, I have changed my mind a little bit because I think it depends on how people express it.
For example there are some “indigenous” Tribes in America that appear to express this in more positive ways. There are sun dances and other gatherings, etc. And even some of the “white” ethnic groups like Irish and Greeks have their festivals and common customs and such.
My point is that I think “statism” and being part of a “people” is probably different.
Next time I speak with a “Native American” I will ask them about their thoughts on this. They will probably think it’s a strange question but maybe not
“…My point is that I think “statism” and being part of a “people” is probably different.…”
I agree…. The state is a layer that grows on top of “nations” , sometimes they are the same and sometimes not.
Kurds in Turkey are a “people” that are different from the Turks I met (they kinda hate each other on a low key) and they really want their own Kurdish state that they run so they can do stuff their own way and for their own interests.
The US today is more like an Empire because you need a strong state to hold different peoples under the same government…. Thomas777 said on one of his lectures (Cold War I think) that the state as we know it will go away over the next 200 years and be replaced wiyh more local forms of government. I hope he is more right then wrong.
What I mean about cultural underpinnings to a geographic region I mean that there is some type of organic human cultural “way” that is established outside (or in addition to) of the form of government that exists in the region.
Like what is the base “culture” of the British (minus the aristocracy). Is there something there?
What is that thing (s) and what is it composed of?
Maybe it’s “folk ways” that I’m trying to get at. Perhaps each region of people (genetic and ethnic cluster) developed “folk ways” over time.
What are those “ways” for a “Canadian” or an “American”? I’ll have to think about this because I haven’t a clue.
@cu.h.j
RE: “there is some type of organic human cultural “way” that is established outside (or in addition to) of the form of government that exists in the region.”
And what I was saying by highlighting non-statist cultures (like the Wendat here, and the Ainu people in Japan) is that the “organic” cultural way of that land is often living under the oppressive rule of an imported exploitative system.
For instance, you mentioned, a “Shogun” series as a historical piece about Japan. I assume that would have been set around 1600-1700?
If so, at that time there was a significant (distinct and separate) Ainu population living in what is now called Northern Japan at that time, where they had been living for thousands of years. They had (and have) a distinct culture that predates contemporary Japanese imported culture (which would have been exemplified in the Shogun series you watched). The Ainu had (and have) their own language, art, horticultural techniques, animist beliefs and they look a little different than the modern southern “Japanese” person you might imagine in your mind.
Do you consider them to be “Japanese” ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people
Is their culture the “real” “Japanese” culture?
Or does their place based culture represent something else entirely? And it is surviving despite the attempted assimilation by the imposed statist Japanese culture?
Which one of those cultures is the “organic human cultural “way”..” you asked about?
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RE:
“Like what is the base “culture” of the British (minus the aristocracy).”
The word “British” is inseparable from the imperialistic statist thugs that invented it and imposed it on the indigenous populations of Albion (aka the “British Isles”).
The term “British” only started to gain momentum around the same time your Shogun series was set (1600-s) and may have etymological roots going back to around the year 1100. The Gael had a thriving culture on Albion for many centuries before the time of Christ.
Over the centuries, the remnants of the elite families of invaders to that island (Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normand invasions and a few Vikings interbred) and set up the cities and centers of power that became the British Crown.
So if you want to see “British Culture” you can watch Downton Abbey, but if you want to learn about the organic culture of that land, you would have to learn some Welsh and Gaelic, look for Ogham stones and risk being called a “drity pagan witch” by the Catholics.
For more on that, I explore the history in my Decolonizing St. Patrick`s day post:
https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/decolonizing-st-patricks-day
dirty pagan*
Ways of “Canadians” my observations:
They seem to be polite and considerate (generally), keeping complaints close to the chest. They have a different way of speaking English, a dialect that is dependent on their location.
My assumption is that people from Canada and the upper Mid West US are similarly polite and considerate. When I lived in North Dakota, most of the people there were very polite and “neighborly”
Once a woman offered me a ride home when I was carrying groceries. I declined (I don’t care how nice people seem, ya never know and I never get into random cars)! But even when I worked there, people were just more friendly in general.
Maybe my assumptions about “Canadians” are incorrect.
“…..important things that people have done in the past in becoming effective agents of lasting change, is to completely ignore all the people telling them “but you have to choose sides! Look there are bad guys over there and we are the good guys!” to forge their own way and trail blaze a path that ignores both artificially constructed “us” vs “them” dynamics present in their culture at t…….”
I am genuinely curious as to who you are talking about.
Because as far as I know in history you see organizated groups crushing disorganized ones.
@Duck
Thankfully, seeing intact ecosystems as a model for success worth emulating and building upon is one of the most complex and resilient forms of organization known to man (and that pathway of resistance and building resilience can be applied in a decentralized manner, scaled with ancestral knowledge and local resources and applied at a residential or community scale).
We can spend time fretting about bad guys or fantasizing about “good guys” crushing ‘bad guys’ or we can take action to sever ties to corrupt organization patterns and initiate new patterns of organization.
In order to illustrate the imperative, potential and globally distributed success of such efforts to organize outside of dominant oppressive cultural organizing patterns, we are going to take a little trip down memory lane and re-visit some pertinent educational material presented by our host.
First up:
1. “It turns out resistance isn’t futile after all. Resistance is fertile”
https://corbettreport.com/resistance-is-fertile/
…
2.
“There are more thought criminals being born every day!
What am I talking about? The counter-economy, that’s what!”
https://corbettreport.com/rejoice-the-agora-is-growing/
3.
“The earth is abundant. If you don’t believe me, just join your local community garden.”
https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-communitygardens/
4.
“The PTSB are trying to keep us apart. Divided. Alone in the urban jungle. And so, building community is a way to fight back by constructing something new . . . But no one said building a community is easy. Join James today as he looks at The Conscious Agora and other examples of people coming together to create a better world.”
https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-community/
5.
“How we act throughout these crises will either make us stronger in our resistance to the forces of tyranny or see us fall prey to the tyrants’ divide-and-conquer treachery.”
https://corbettreport.com/2016-community-or-civil-war/
6.
“As part of our ongoing focus on solutions and answers, today we look at the example of the Ozarks Neighborly Exchange, a small grassroots organization that is fostering community interaction in Ozark County, Missouri. We discuss the group, its origin, and how others around the world can learn from the example of groups like this one with community member Thomas Freedman.”
https://corbettreport.com/interview-1011-thomas-freedman-on-creating-a-community-organization/
7.
“And yet there are those who not only presume to be able to coordinate the creation of something as seemingly simple as a pencil or a sandwich, but people who think they could direct entire societies, control the activities of millions or even billions of human beings to ensure that their interactions all work harmoniously toward some goal chosen by this handful of would-be central planners. The hubris of such a claim is mind-boggling, but it is taken for granted by statists of all sorts whenever they vote for candidates who promise to accomplish just such an impossible task…
As Leonard Read’s son, Lawrence Read, points out in his introduction to his father’s essay, this hubris is not just shared by the tyrants of the past—people like Maximilien Robespierre, the man who was responsible for the Reign of Terror in the wake of the French Revolution and who is credited with coining the expression “On ne saurait pas faire une omelette sans casser des oeufs” (You can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs)—but also by ordinary people, whose unthinking acceptance of the doctrines of the social engineers is one of the greatest impediments to human liberty…
..’It has been said that “only God can make a tree.” Why do we agree with this? Isn’t it because we realize that we ourselves could not make one? Indeed, can we even describe a tree? We cannot, except in superficial terms. We can say, for instance, that a certain molecular configuration manifests itself as a tree. But what mind is there among men that could even record, let alone direct, the constant changes in molecules that transpire in the life span of a tree? Such a feat is utterly unthinkable!’..
But to these miracles which manifest themselves in Nature an even more extraordinary miracle has been added: the configuration of creative human energies—millions of tiny know-hows configurating naturally and spontaneously in response to human necessity and desire and in the absence of any human masterminding! Since only God can make a tree, I insist that only God could make me. Man can no more direct these millions of know-hows to bring me into being than he can put molecules together to create a tree.
The above is what I meant when writing, “If you can become aware of the miraculousness which I symbolize, you can help save the freedom mankind is so unhappily losing.” For, if one is aware that these know-hows will naturally, yes, automatically, arrange themselves into creative and productive patterns in response to human necessity and demand— that is, in the absence of governmental or any other coercive master-minding—then one will possess an absolutely essential ingredient for freedom: a faith in free people. Freedom is impossible without this faith.”
https://corbettreport.com/i-sandwich/
8.
“Every day when you leave the house you have a chance to advertise the truth, to spark conversations, and to meet like-minded people.”
https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-shirts/
9.
“As with every such transition, the move from an industrial food diet to a homegrown, organic one is likely to occur in gradual stages. As people improve their gardening skills and devote more of their time and attention to sourcing healthy, natural foods from local growers and producers, they can slowly but surely eliminate the processed foods from their diets…
..And this, as with all such boycotts, is the real promise of the homegrown food revolution. There is nothing that we as individuals can do to directly influence the policies of the Federal Reserve or the practices of the NSA or the foreign policy of the US/NATO empire. But we can directly choose what foods and products we support with our dollars and what food we put on our families’ tables. Not only can we make that choice, but we do actively make that choice each and every day, whether by default or by conscious action. If we, in the full knowledge of the devestating health and environmental effects of the big food conglomerates, continue to support those corporations with our money, then we are complicit in their activities. To the extent that we withdraw our support and begin to seek out and build up alternative infrastructures for producing healthy foods, we are part of the solution.
The choice is ours to make, and this revolution, like the Wall Street boycott, the Big Tech boycott, and all the other boycotts of the corporatocracy that are possible, begins the next time you walk into a store and purchase—or refuse to purchase—one of their products.”
https://corbettreport.com/how-to-boycott-big-food-2013/
10.
“the ongoing series of solutions-focused workshop/conferences seeking to empower people on their quest to build the parallel systems of the future. From workshops and presentations on permaculture and parallel networks to taking back our tech and building community”
https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-tgr5/
11.
“James talks to Miriam Gomez about her experience putting down roots and connecting with like-minded freedom-seekers in a foreign country. For those who have thought about moving away from their home, how can you connect with others and build an agora despite language and cultural barriers, and what’s the best way to integrate yourself into a foreign land?”
https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-bridges/
12.
“Using our knowledge of the Future of Food agenda, today James explores ways that we can negate that agenda and work toward building up the food and farming systems we will need to build resistant, thriving, independent communities in the future.”
https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-futurefood/
@Duck
Now you may try to evoke “a dark version of the field of dreams” and say “but Waco man! The bad guys are gonna show up and crush you if you try and resist, organize parallel food, cultural and community systems and plant the seeds for food sovereignty!”.
Perhaps, but even if they did, the process of creating these parallel systems, forming/strengthening regenerative alliances that transcend arbitrary statist borders, learning about the living Earth and aligning with her abundance and eating real, delicious and nutritious food up until that point, would still be worth the journey.
And, it is so much better than sitting around and typing doomsday drama to people on computer screens, falling into fear, feeding into fear, buying into superiority complex delusions and investing one’s self in archaic statist gaslighting “us” vs “them” narratives.
But hey, to each their own! And I wish you all the best on what ever path you choose.
G
That was all very interesting but I just asked for examples of people changing things on a large scale by doing what you said
“…..important things that people have done in the past in becoming effective agents of lasting change, is to completely ignore all the people telling them “but you have to choose sides! Look there are bad guys over there and we are the good guys!” to forge their own way and trail blaze a path that ignores both artificially constructed “us” vs “them” dynamics present in their culture at t…….”
Because STILL as far as I can see the world has NOT changed.
It won’t change because humans run on a particular set of incentives and drives…. So while I AGREE that people can make big improvements in their lives ( you will note I complimented your woodslore skills the other day) I DISAGREE that you will change the basic dynamics of human interaction.
This is where you and I appear to differ the most- i do not think man is perfectable or his nature changeable. People can be convinced to change, but the aggregate masa of humanity is driven by incentives that dictate certain structures repeat again and again.
The people you cite clearly have NOT a changed the world, they have taken action for themselves and/ or their families/ community. The world itself and human structures built upon human nature have NOT changed.
“…..but Waco man! The bad guys are gonna show up and crush you if you try and resist, organize parallel food, cultural and community systems and plant the seeds for food sovereignty!”….”
I NEVER said that.
I have commented contra to people saying that.
I have consistently suggested that people DO make changes that harden them against external forces.
I do not understand why you would think I ever suggested people do nothing and stay in the system….but contrawise IMO there what’s always been a system of some kind and there always will be
Even primitive tribes make war and do upon the small scale what states do because they have the same drives and incentives to behavior
Nothing mugc has changed except scale in how people act since 10000 bc or before
@Duck
RE: “Because STILL as far as I can see the world has NOT changed.”
The same discouragement, frustration and apparent defeatism arises in the person that tries to stare at a baby Redwood and watch it grow.
Rather than stare at the beginnings of things that appear small and fragile now and say “The dam thing is not growing or changing at all!” some of us take a step back to acknowledge the many symbiotic relationships and regenerative patterns that made that germinating redwood seed possible and we envision the immense potential of what it could become, and then we get to work aligning with the above described symbiotic relationships and regenerative patterns and planting more redwood seeds (figuratively and literally).
Perfecting people is not a reasonable nor healthy goal.
Are old growth trees that have been contributing to their community for a long time perfect? Hell no, they are often all scarred up and leaning sideways from lightning strikes, epic storms and other events that tested their strength and will to live, after which they healed and kept on going.
We humans are no different, we all have scars, we will all receive more of them. We can use them as reminders of how to be increasingly resilient and keep on contributing to our community (while planting the seeds for new communities to flourish as well) or we can let the wounds and trauma end our path of growth, lay down and die/decompose slowly.
I choose to grow and plant seeds myself, and I know a great many others that are doing the same. We may be called “primitive”, “uncivilised” and “dreamers” by some, but that is okay, we are legion, we are determined and we enjoy life.
That is enough for me.
G
So what you are saying is that I had to read all those words just so you could AGREE with me has been no change in the world?
I admire your faith that you will “one day” cause a deep and lasting vhange to the worl but you should not talk about people who “have” made deep changes When you don’t believe they exist.
“……The same discouragement, frustration and apparent defeatism arises in the person that tries to stare at a baby Redwood and watch it grow.…”
I hate to be mean but what would you say to someone who says we have not tried “real” communism yet? Because while you are quite eloquent you’re basically saying that “at some point in the future human nature and the systems humans create will change”…… I actually also believe that but I at least admit that MY belief is based upon Jesus returning to earth the judge the quick and the dead.
I am pretty sure my outcome will happen before yours, since mine depend upon a supernatural occurrence vs yours depends on billoons of years of evolutionary incentives reversing
themselves for “some reason “
What I have learned during the last 5 years was how reliant people are when it comes to statist structures. For some part, you might not even need a trade war.
I am certain at least 4 % of Canadians (or slaves from other Jones plantations) are suicidal when you take social media away from them. Take the internet away and another 30 % are utterly disoriented. Take energy and the access to a sewer system away for at least a week away and you can just walk onto every throne in every society. Like UK did in China with opium dens. There’s no resistance, no resilience, no consciousness. You can take entire Europe over with less than 10 000 people. In fact, it’s precisely what less than 1000 globalists are doing right now beyond the spotlight.
“…..Take the internet away and another 30 % are utterly disorient…..”
True, but even worse they probably don’t have the cash to pay for gas or food if the internet goes down and takes card transactions away. That would cause panic and the panic would be worse then the actual situation
On depression I think low grade “background “ depression may be even higher. Personally I am convinced we will be seeing a massive uptick in suicides soon, even if the economy stays relatively solid…. But cut them off from their meds and phones and a ton of out most valuable age group , young people, will start offing themselves.
🙁 makes me sad to think about
@Lusatia
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
Sounds like if we were to get rid of all the “throne(s) in every society.” there would be no-where for these world dominating would be tyrants to sit.
Good point about the digital dependency, a flick of a switch could certainly starve a great many that have chosen the infantilizing role of consumerism and dependance on big Ag.
This offers a solid impetus to re-double my efforts to hyper-localize my food production, re-enforce community based symbiotic relationships and learn to build a compostable toilet! 🙂
We have some quite insightful, even erudite comments today.
What can we do to soften the catastrophe seen in these cards?
The only thing that I can think of, for us non-insiders to do, is to somehow restore some reason and civility into the dialogue. A lot of this accelerating polarization is occurring on social media.
This visceral divisiveness is a key ingredient in elevating the power of the lies and manipulations.
How can we make the parroting of ignorant and angry talking points uncool?
Exposing and opposing lies is proving to be a rather difficult art. It requires courage, tactfulness (which involves patience), and a clear, calm vision of our own egos.
Even if we cannot forestall immediate calamity, maybe the seeds of truth will somehow create a better future.
@hanky
RE: “How can we make the parroting of ignorant and angry talking points uncool?”
I am no expert, as I was certainly not the “cool” kid in my school, but here are some of my efforts along those lines.
https://substack.com/@gavinmounsey/note/c-98720102
Can anyone explain to me, simply, what the international tariff situation was up until last month?
I have been trying, unsuccessfully, to figure out if the newly proposed Trump policies are actually just reciprocal moves, as he said in his speech. Are we just finally evening the playing field with any nation, as he indicated, or is it just aggressive power playing and grandstanding, as his detractors are screaming.
Hankey
According to the link Canada does have high tariffs on US dairy products, and according to S2 underground would have to greatly lower them to “match” the US tariff. There is an “import qouta” of duty free stuff and imports get taxed after that amount has been brought in free.
https://checkyourfact.com/2018/06/11/fact-check-canada-270-percent-tariff-dairy/
Free Trade has certainly done a lot of harm to domestic production and jobs in the US, which now appears to mainly export freshly printed dollars, lol.
Having the “hard” currency means that it’s hard for the US to do what China does and hold their currency low to make their products “cheaper”
I have never looked much into it but I think the “pro” tariff argument is basically the same as Ross Perot’s “giant sucking sound” , a prophecy that kinda came true.
The thing is, while I can see the up side of tariff’s the down side is that a lot of stuff will get super expensive because it’s no longer made domestically….. years ago a woman write a book about living a year with nothing from China and iirc she bought way less stuff and the only shoes she could get we’re hand made Italian, lol.
I THINK at his is the book
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/719411.A_Year_Without_Made_in_China_
https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/USA/Year/2024/TradeFlow/Import/Partner/by-country
https://wits.worldbank.org/tariff/trains/country-byhs6product.aspx?lang=en
Before asking for help, I did search some sites like this, that seemed promising by their titles, but I need a translator. Put simply, which countries already imposed comparable high tariffs on the US before Trump’s announcements?
That first site IS a PITA to use in my current screen. 🙁
I have about 150 pages to read today though so I don’t think i can dig thru it right now. As an over view though I do know that even NPR is talking about how the opening of markets to China hit semi skilled manufacturing jobs much harder then was expected by the theories.
Free trade always drives down semi and low skill wages, just like immigration drives down wages, because workers must compete with people willing to take a lower standard of living. It benefited owners and high skill workers only.
“……
For decades, mainstream economists claimed that free trade would be a clear win for the United States. Sure, they said, there would be some losers. But those losers would get new jobs in a growing economy and basically everything would ultimately be fine…..But, the economists find, the people who were hurt by the China Shock did not recover. Manufacturing workers did not transition to these new sectors. The economists find that the people who took the new jobs, concentrated in the service sector, were often newcomers and demographically different, including immigrants, U.S.-born Latinos and younger workers with college degrees. Meanwhile, the ladders in manufacturing that once provided workers without a college diploma a solid wage and upward mobility were kicked ove……”
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/11/g-s1-47352/why-economists-got-free-trade-with-china-so-wrong
I think it was “revolt of the elites” where Christopher Lasche said that there was a massive divide between people who make THINGS and people who move information about with the later group doing much better when he wrote. Just going off memory.
The thing that strikes me is that things no longer have a sensible real “value” , there is no way that I could go to the Amazon store and buy stuff people return for Pennie’s if the system was working logically. There is no normal way that it could be possible to buy electronics and clothes so cheep that I can toss them away after a week or so without feeling economically hurt – but people CAN and do do that now. Our trash clothes then get shipped to Africa where they run local tailors out of business…. This destroys any link between price and value…..people ARE living in the post scarcity society now, but it’s not working out so well.
Hanley
This video was all’s about what may be BEHIND the trade war- basically the US is unhappy at the China trade faction in Canada and wants to disrupt their power.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=67r2U3DziYs
I really don’t know enough to say if the guy is correct or not, it certainly makes sense but maybe you will have a better knowledge of Canadian politics then me.
Thanks for the link to the clip. I understand more about the subject now, but my original question is not addressed, at all.